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BlackI
02-07-2018, 12:13 PM
I saw this...

Tim Gould (Notre Dame Hounds) has committed to the University of Maine for 2019-2020. @MaineIceHockey @TimmyG_3 @ndjrahounds @theSJHL

6' 183 lbs left shot offensive '00 defenseman from Riverview, NB. Has 29 point in 39 games.

Was named SJHL defenseman of the week. http://www.notredamehounds.ca/news_article/show/878688

http://www.notredamehounds.ca/news_article/show/884291?referrer_id=631351-news

umhockey91
02-07-2018, 01:04 PM
Exciting to get a commitment from a d-man that can score!

BlackI
02-07-2018, 01:24 PM
Exciting to get a commitment from a d-man that can score!

I found some highlights in case you want to see...


https://vimeo.com/245936039

BlackI
02-07-2018, 01:37 PM
Some more highlights from last year on AAA midget team. He is rookie in SJHL this season...

https://youtu.be/6jcT84or1YU

Fishman'81
02-07-2018, 07:54 PM
Exciting to get a commitment from a d-man that can score!

Not being facetious here, but I'd much prefer a D-crew that can keep the play in front of it, and not throw careless passes across it's own low-slot, not make bad pinches, etc.

Maine's glaring weakness is it's D. The 'tending and the forwards are good enough to win most nights... The D is clearly the weak link. The occasional open slappa finding the net is mere frosting on the cake; these guys are called "defensemen" for a reason.

(Tell ya what: give me 6 "boring, stay-at-home" guys like Mike Lundin on this team, and Maine is squarely in the PWR as we speak.)

amkirby10
02-07-2018, 08:11 PM
Not being facetious here, but I'd much prefer a D-crew that can keep the play in front of it, and not throw careless passes across it's own low-slot, not make bad pinches, etc.

Maine's glaring weakness is it's D. The 'tending and the forwards are good enough to win most nights... The D is clearly the weak link. The occasional open slappa finding the net is mere frosting on the cake; these guys are called "defensemen" for a reason.

Gotta say, I agree with this. When I saw it was a D we got, I was excited, but now that heís another ďoffensive defensemanĒ it isnít really what the team needs.

BlackI
02-07-2018, 09:03 PM
Gotta say, I agree with this. When I saw it was a D we got, I was excited, but now that he’s another “offensive defenseman” it isn’t really what the team needs.

He would come in 19/20 season according to article. That season would need to replace Michel and potentially Holway(if he leaves early). Also, I didn't read anything where it said he is bad in his own end.

Butala is coming in next season. He seems more defensive defensemen as does Spicer(redshirt).

Drew S.
02-07-2018, 09:11 PM
He would come in 19/20 season according to article. That season would need to replace Michel and potentially Holway(if he leaves early). Also, I didn't read anything where it said he is bad in his own end.

Butala is coming in next season. He seems more defensive defensemen as does Spicer(redshirt).

What happens with Spicer, Herner, and Moran? I would think one or two of them arenít around next year.

BlackI
02-07-2018, 09:19 PM
What happens with Spicer, Herner, and Moran? I would think one or two of them arenít around next year.

I don't know what will happen. My suggestion would be - compete.

BlackI
02-07-2018, 09:30 PM
Not being facetious here, but I'd much prefer a D-crew that can keep the play in front of it, and not throw careless passes across it's own low-slot, not make bad pinches, etc.

Maine's glaring weakness is it's D. The 'tending and the forwards are good enough to win most nights... The D is clearly the weak link. The occasional open slappa finding the net is mere frosting on the cake; these guys are called "defensemen" for a reason.

(Tell ya what: give me 6 "boring, stay-at-home" guys like Mike Lundin on this team, and Maine is squarely in the PWR as we speak.)

You mean the senior that was second in scoring on the team by a defensemen and had the worst plus minus rating on the team for a defensemen.

Can you find a better example?

Fishman'81
02-07-2018, 09:52 PM
You mean the senior that was second in scoring on the team by a defensemen and had the worst plus minus rating on the team for a defensemen.

Can you find a better example?

Plus-minus is so over-rated as to be almost meaningless... Did you ever see him play?

BlackI
02-07-2018, 10:20 PM
Plus-minus is so over-rated as to be almost meaningless... Did you ever see him play?

Of course. If you want an example of boring but solid defensively then in that same era was Travis Ramsey. He was always near the top of defensemen on his team in +/- rating. You would think a converted forward would be more offensive, but he wasnt. Just steady solid defensemen.

Much better example for the point you were trying to make.

BoSox3066
02-07-2018, 11:43 PM
Lol at anybody who thinks Mike Lundin wasn't good defensively

walrus
02-08-2018, 04:39 AM
What happens with Spicer, Herner, and Moran? I would think one or two of them arenít around next year.Herner ain't playing unless he magically got faster. Haven't seen the other 2

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Bhall44
02-08-2018, 05:20 AM
I'll take 18 skaters who can play in all three zones any day over a one dimensional player (unless his name is Gretzky)... Also Important for everyone to remember that although D is our weak point it got a lot better this year with incoming freshman and freshman improve over their tenure. The youth movement in Orono is something to be proud of, but as pointed out by many people on this forum not to be satisfied with. We can still be better and will get better!!
As for Gould, you don't get to be as sought after as he without being able to play defense. His offensive prowess comes from PP ability. Current player his skill set is most similar to his Holway.
As for roster questions, I would recommend checking the Roster Projection Table at the link in my signature, which includes primary source information, not personal opinion. Highly likely we are watching Michel's last few games in a Maine sweater. Holway is likely sticking around for another year pending unforeseen roster developments in Red Wings organization. I am keeping an eye on Moran's situation. Not sure what scholarship (academic/athletic) he has been offered if any. If academic you may see him stick around a la Sam Becker.

BlackI
02-08-2018, 06:16 AM
Lol at anybody who thinks Mike Lundin wasn't good defensively

I didn't say that. But he said he wanted 6 boring at home types. Lundin was not a boring at home type. Not in college he wasnt.

Drew S.
02-08-2018, 07:38 AM
I'll take 18 skaters who can play in all three zones any day over a one dimensional player (unless his name is Gretzky)... Also Important for everyone to remember that although D is our weak point it got a lot better this year with incoming freshman and freshman improve over their tenure. The youth movement in Orono is something to be proud of, but as pointed out by many people on this forum not to be satisfied with. We can still be better and will get better!!
As for Gould, you don't get to be as sought after as he without being able to play defense. His offensive prowess comes from PP ability. Current player his skill set is most similar to his Holway.
As for roster questions, I would recommend checking the Roster Projection Table at the link in my signature, which includes primary source information, not personal opinion. Highly likely we are watching Michel's last few games in a Maine sweater. Holway is likely sticking around for another year pending unforeseen roster developments in Red Wings organization. I am keeping an eye on Moran's situation. Not sure what scholarship (academic/athletic) he has been offered if any. If academic you may see him stick around a la Sam Becker.

Would Holway be a free agent in 2019 or 2020? If itís 2019 I could see the wings signing him because of that.

amkirby10
02-08-2018, 08:32 AM
I am keeping an eye on Moran's situation. Not sure what scholarship (academic/athletic) he has been offered if any. If academic you may see him stick around a la Sam Becker.

I actually knew Jack Moran in my younger years, and unless something has significantly changed, he ainít getting any scholarships for his academic ability.

BlackI
02-08-2018, 10:46 AM
Swayman named a finalist for Walter Brown award...

http://www.goblackbears.com/news/2018/2/5/mens-ice-hockey-swayman-named-semifinalist-for-walter-brown-award.aspx

Quite an accomplishment for this outstanding rookie!

Ma#1ne Hky
02-08-2018, 04:59 PM
Would Holway be a free agent in 2019 or 2020? If itís 2019 I could see the wings signing him because of that.Look for Holway and even Pearson playing there Junior seasons and then signing with Detroit and from there joining there AHL team in Grand Rapids to continue there development with there sights set towards the NHL.