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Runsub5
02-19-2018, 12:57 PM
Season ends in three weeks. We're really going into the offseason with a lame duck coach?

Appears that way.

ticapnews
02-19-2018, 12:58 PM
Appears that way.

That light at the end of the tunnel just might be the headlight of an oncoming train.

Drew S.
02-19-2018, 02:48 PM
That light at the end of the tunnel just might be the headlight of an oncoming train.

I would think they have to give Red a two year extension. Is there anyone in the athletic department who could be promoted to AD?

NorthMike
02-19-2018, 03:06 PM
I would think they have to give Red a two year extension. Is there anyone in the athletic department who could be promoted to AD?

Ideally Red! Then he can go to work and hire the best coaching staff out there. He is capable of that.

Seriously, I think this cements Red for the indefinite future. Unless they hire a good AD (what are the chances) who is capable of doing a global search for a coach.
A green AD would take a few years to assess the situation at the dept level before attempting a hockey coach change.

Unless the U puts in a temp AD charged with making the hockey coach change. Not out of the possibilities.

walrus
02-19-2018, 03:33 PM
I could see Cosgrove taking the job if he was still around but Red, don't see that.

The one thing you can count on, the U blowing it

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Ma#1ne Hky
02-19-2018, 03:37 PM
Season ends in three weeks. We're really going into the offseason with a lame duck coach?Good. Maybe the next AD seeing he already is signed for next season will tell RG that to get a extension then this is a make or break season {2018-19} to prove worthy of another extension. What has changed in Maine Hockey? The defenseman are still a liability, the forwards have no true goal scorers that can finish...what has changed is they have someone in net {Swayman} that has made a difference and is solid and more or less a foundation piece. They have a winning record but take away Swayman and insert McGovern over the season and Maine would have 8,9 maybe 10 wins and a 10th/11th place finish in Hockey East.

Ma#1ne Hky
02-19-2018, 03:39 PM
I could see Cosgrove taking the job if he was still around but Red, don't see that.

The one thing you can count on, the U blowing it

Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkI hear you on the last sentence and LETS HOPE NOT this time.

walrus
02-19-2018, 03:47 PM
Good. Maybe the next AD seeing he already is signed for next season will tell RG that to get a extension then this is a make or break season {2018-19} to prove worthy of another extension. What has changed in Maine Hockey? The defenseman are still a liability, the forwards have no true goal scorers that can finish...what has changed is they have someone in net {Swayman} that has made a difference and is solid and more or less a foundation piece. They have a winning record but take away Swayman and insert McGovern over the season and Maine would have 8,9 maybe 10 wins and a 10th/11th place finish in Hockey East.

I don't disagree on some of your points, having a lame duck coach could mean recruits walk

Ma#1ne Hky
02-19-2018, 03:51 PM
I don't disagree on some of your points, having a lame duck coach could mean recruits walkYes I know, dam if you do and dam if you don't.

NorthMike
02-19-2018, 04:14 PM
I could see Cosgrove taking the job if he was still around but Red, don't see that.

The one thing you can count on, the U blowing it

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Didnt Cosgrove go to Colby? I suppose he has a contract.

Runsub5
02-19-2018, 04:22 PM
Didnt Cosgrove just go to Colby? I suppose he has a contract.

Yes, he's at Colby. He had an opportunity to be AD before Kreech was hired. Jack is a football coach and that's what he wants to do. He has the personality to be a very good AD if he so chose.

Fishman'81
02-19-2018, 05:28 PM
Good. Maybe the next AD seeing he already is signed for next season will tell RG that to get a extension then this is a make or break season {2018-19} to prove worthy of another extension. What has changed in Maine Hockey? The defenseman are still a liability, the forwards have no true goal scorers that can finish...what has changed is they have someone in net {Swayman} that has made a difference and is solid and more or less a foundation piece. They have a winning record but take away Swayman and insert McGovern over the season and Maine would have 8,9 maybe 10 wins and a 10th/11th place finish in Hockey East.

Agreed, but a dumpster-fire could be averted if they name Guite interim coach... (And I would guess that Ben and Alfie could keep most of the recruits on-board in that case, to address Wally's post.)

Anyone besides me still wonder what Maine might be like right now if Jimmy or Corkum had been hired to succeed Tim? Or even Gwozdecky? There were certainly better on-paper options than Red at that time.

BlackI
02-19-2018, 06:13 PM
Agreed, but a dumpster-fire could be averted if they name Guite interim coach... (And I would guess that Ben and Alfie could keep most of the recruits on-board in that case, to address Wally's post.)

Anyone besides me still wonder what Maine might be like right now if Jimmy or Corkum had been hired to succeed Tim? Or even Gwozdecky? There were certainly better on-paper options than Red at that time.

Well, Gwozdecky seemed to more or less go for comfortable retirement ready going to high school hockey.

Is Corkum coaching this year. I thought he was on Islanders.

Don't think we will ever see Jimmy given where he is now with Denver. But yes I think often, too often... need to not. :)

My guess is that since program went 6th, 9th, 11th, 11th, now 6th ish it is considered adequate and on an uptick. So I would assume Maine would extend Red. I really think it might work out over a couple more seasons, it is just taking longer than I thought. Or maybe it doesn't go up at all.

For a dreamer pick as fan(not sure it is realistic)... I would love Red to transition to AD to get himself off a hot seat and have a little stability while still helping manage hockey. And hire Jack Capuano, and give Guite and Alfie more time to gain experience. I think Guite and Alfie are great, but maybe need more experience in order to handle that job. Capuano is interesting given his NHL resume and he is a defensemen. I assume his strength could be coaching defense. I assume he made a lot of money in NHL and might enjoy coaching Maine. Or maybe I should say I would love to hear he is interested someday after Red retires.

Edit: Confirmed he's coaching defense for panthers. "Capuano, 50, a native of Cranston, R.I., is expected to be in charge of the defense and penalty kill, which was ranked second in the NHL last season under Allen’s watch."

umhockey91
02-19-2018, 08:51 PM
Do you guys really follow the UM athletic dept? Lynn Coutts or Richard Barron will be the next AD. Hiring a new mens basketball coach is a much more pressing issue for the dept. right now.

Ma#1ne Hky
02-20-2018, 01:06 AM
Do you guys really follow the UM athletic dept? Lynn Coutts or Richard Barron will be the next AD. Hiring a new mens basketball coach is a much more pressing issue for the dept. right now.Interesting, could very likely happen.

BoSox3066
02-20-2018, 06:29 PM
Do you guys really follow the UM athletic dept? Lynn Coutts or Richard Barron will be the next AD. Hiring a new mens basketball coach is a much more pressing issue for the dept. right now.

Barron would be great if he's interested in making that transition. Probably the best coach the U has hired in the last 15-20 years

Fishman'81
02-20-2018, 07:57 PM
Do you guys really follow the UM athletic dept? Lynn Coutts or Richard Barron will be the next AD. Hiring a new mens basketball coach is a much more pressing issue for the dept. right now.

Probably. I haven't seen Maine hoops this bad since I've existed.

BlackI
02-20-2018, 08:48 PM
Probably. I haven't seen Maine hoops this bad since I've existed.

You are a fan since 77, give us your advice.

walrus
02-21-2018, 04:12 AM
You are a fan since 77, give us your advice.Scrap the program? Men's bball is going to be a tough sell in Orono. The current coach recruited well but for whatever reason they all left. Not sure why? But I would guess Orono.

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umhockey91
02-21-2018, 07:20 AM
Scrap the program? Men's bball is going to be a tough sell in Orono. The current coach recruited well but for whatever reason they all left. Not sure why? But I would guess Orono.

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Yet, the football program retains student athletes for 4/5 years from up & down the East Coast. My guess...the coach.