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PrezdeJohnson09
02-17-2018, 09:53 AM
What happens if there's a four way tie for first, UC wins all tiebreakers ?

Pretty sure Utica has clinched the No. 1 seed per twitter.

Transplanted Tiger Fan
02-17-2018, 11:18 AM
What happens if there's a four way tie for first, UC wins all tiebreakers ?
In the four-way tie scenario (Utica, Manhattanville, LVC, Stevenson), applying the tie-breaker criteria to determine each position I came-up with the following...

Top Seed:

First criteria = H2H:

Utica beats Stevenson, and 'push' with Manhattanviille & LVC (2-0-0, 1-1-0, & 1-1-0, respectively)
Second Criteria = League Wins:

Utica beats Manhattanville & LVC with 11 (vs. 10 & 10)
- Utica takes the Top Seed

Second Seed:

First criteria = H2H:

Stevenson beats both Manhattanville & LVC (2-0-0 & 1-0-1, respectively)
- Stevenson takes the Second Seed

Third Seed:

First criteria = H2H:

Manhattanville beats LVC (2-0-0)
- Manhattanville takes the Third Seed


Also... EDIT - Just realized a silly math error in the prior analysis :o ... corrected!! ...but just switched who-plays-who in the Utica/Elmira Win scenario.

NUProf
02-17-2018, 01:06 PM
In the four-way tie scenario (Utica, Manhattanville, LVC, Stevenson), applying the tie-breaker criteria to determine each position I came-up with the following...

Top Seed:

First criteria = H2H:

Utica beats Stevenson, and 'push' with Manhattanviille & LVC (2-0-0, 1-1-0, & 1-1-0, respectively)
Second Criteria = League Wins:

Utica beats Manhattanville & LVC with 11 (vs. 10 & 10)
- Utica takes the Top Seed

Second Seed:

First criteria = H2H:

Stevenson beats both Manhattanville & LVC (2-0-0 & 1-0-1, respectively)
- Stevenson takes the Second Seed

Third Seed:

First criteria = H2H:

Manhattanville beats LVC (2-0-0)
- Manhattanville takes the Third Seed


Also... EDIT - Just realized a silly math error in the prior analysis :o ... corrected!! ...but just switched who-plays-who in the Utica/Elmira Win scenario.

Head to head doesn't work that way. You look at the record among the tied teams. Who has the most points in the games among the 4. It may be that Utica wins that, but you don't do it pairwise. Best record wins. If ties remain, you go back to that among the teams remaining tied.

How many points does Utica have in games with STV, MHT, LVC
How many points does Stevenson have in games with UTC,MHT,LVC
How many points does Manhattanville have in games with UTC,STV,LVC
How many points does LVC. have in games with UTC,MHT,LVC

If there is a winner that is it. If three or. two teams remain go back.

If HTH doesn't break the tie, then go to Conf wins.

Fishman'81
02-17-2018, 02:51 PM
Head to head doesn't work that way. You look at the record among the tied teams. Who has the most points in the games among the 4. It may be that Utica wins that, but you don't do it pairwise. Best record wins. If ties remain, you go back to that among the teams remaining tied.

How many points does Utica have in games with STV, MHT, LVC
How many points does Stevenson have in games with UTC,MHT,LVC
How many points does Manhattanville have in games with UTC,STV,LVC
How many points does LVC. have in games with UTC,MHT,LVC

If there is a winner that is it. If three or. two teams remain go back.

If HTH doesn't break the tie, then go to Conf wins.

Conference wins is apparently the salient tiebreaker, as UC has already locked-up the top seed. A point or more today means they'll finish alone in 1st.

UCBadger
02-21-2018, 07:51 PM
After 2 Elmira and Manhattanville are tied 2-2 and Neumann leads LVC 3-1.

jconnor
02-21-2018, 08:08 PM
4-3 final. Elmira wins

UCBadger
02-21-2018, 09:06 PM
.....and it was Neumann 3 - LVC 1.

So.....Neumann visits Utica on Saturday and Elmira goes to Stevenson.