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RIT Winters
11-18-2017, 11:55 AM
How gassed was the team in the third period?
I shut off the broadcast in the second but it seems they hung close

They couldn't stay out of the box, which is S.O.P for this team as well as any visiting team to Colorado Springs. Air Force's PP kept them in the game and won it for them.

jflory81
11-18-2017, 01:44 PM
They couldn't stay out of the box, which is S.O.P for this team as well as any visiting team to Colorado Springs. Air Force's PP kept them in the game and won it for them.

More accurately they couldn't kill the power plays they did face. 4 times shorthanded isn't an outrageous number by any means and is hardly "not being able to stay out of the box".

Ed Trefzger
11-18-2017, 07:46 PM
More accurately they couldn't kill the power plays they did face. 4 times shorthanded isn't an outrageous number by any means and is hardly "not being able to stay out of the box".

RIT is actually 55th out of 60 teams in penalty minutes. But they've only gotten 17 power plays in seven league games.

blazer777
11-18-2017, 09:03 PM
RIT is actually 55th out of 60 teams in penalty minutes. But they've only gotten 17 power plays in seven league games.

But you have to admit that the first one in Friday night was as stupid as they come as far as getting caught!

LtPowers
11-19-2017, 08:32 AM
I'll take a split in Colorado Springs any year.


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blazer777
11-19-2017, 03:54 PM
I'll take a split in Colorado Springs any year.


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Yep... And how many times have the Tiger's stunk it up in OCC games but ended up going deep into the playoffs and the tournament? The heck with PWR and the rest! 😁

komey1
11-19-2017, 07:14 PM
Yep... And how many times have the Tiger's stunk it up in OCC games but ended up going deep into the playoffs and the tournament? The heck with PWR and the rest! 😁

The year they went to the Frozen Four, RIT did not win an OOC game in the regular season.

komey1
11-19-2017, 07:19 PM
Think of it this way:

- Lose five conference games and when it comes time to compare in PWR against your conference-mates those are just a sub-sample of twenty-some games when doing PWR against conference-mates.

- Lose five non-conf games (say one against each conference, so you're 0-1 against that conference) when it comes common-opponents time in PWR you lost to a team from say the WCHA and any team in the WCHA that has a better record against that same team wins that PWR category against you.

Yes, not scientific, more of a thought exercise, but that's how it effectively plays out.

The thing is also who you beat. The loss against RPI hurts some because they have a terrible record so far. However, I think the tie against Northeasstern helps a lot more because they are a top team. Beating UConn would be nice, but won't exactly move the needle in the computers because UConn is not that good. If they can get at least 1 win against Providence then that would help against more teams.

LtPowers
11-19-2017, 09:13 PM
The thing is also who you beat. The loss against RPI hurts some because they have a terrible record so far.

See, this is what I don't get. According to the RPI (Ratings Percentage Index) math, losing to RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute) doesn't hurt our numbers any more than any losing to Union does.


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TigerFan86-87
11-20-2017, 11:40 AM
Yep... And how many times have the Tiger's stunk it up in OCC games but ended up going deep into the playoffs and the tournament? The heck with PWR and the rest! 😁
Exactly, except instead of "going deep" it should say "winning". The Tigers have only ever made the tournament by winning the AHC.
Which is really where the focus for this team should be. The odds of an at-large bid just aren't good enough to spend a whole lot of energy thinking about unless it becomes a real possibility in February.
THE way to the NCAA's is still winning the AHC playoffs.

komey1
11-20-2017, 07:20 PM
As the league continues to improve and we see similar OOC results as we are starting to see, then winning the conference tournament is still the path to the NCAAs. I would rather play tough OOC games than easy ones, even if it means a loss.

komey1
11-22-2017, 06:45 PM
See, this is what I don't get. According to the RPI (Ratings Percentage Index) math, losing to RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute) doesn't hurt our numbers any more than any losing to Union does.


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It's the formula used to calculate the number. Opponent's record is the least weighted of the 3 components based on the USCHO page with RPI rating.

LtPowers
11-25-2017, 08:23 AM
It's the formula used to calculate the number. Opponent's record is the least weighted of the 3 components based on the USCHO page with RPI rating.

It's not Opponent's Record, though; it's Opponents' Records. All of the records of all of your opponents are averaged together. If you lose to Team A and beat Team B, or you beat Team A and lose to Team B, the cumulative record of all of your opponents will be identical either way.


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komey1
11-25-2017, 06:33 PM
So the question for the night is that are the AHC refs so bad and inconsistent that RIT doesn't get called for stuff, or did the HE refs call it right. It does suck that there was such a discrepancy in the number of penalties. I'm surprised Chase Norish didn't play unless he was a little dinged up and Coach didn't want to say. Short had a good game, thought I still expect Drackett to get the majority of playing time.

LtPowers
11-25-2017, 08:22 PM
I expect AHC teams have a reputation with other leagues' refs that they commit a bunch of infractions due to the skill disparity. Even if that's not really true anymore.


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blazer777
11-26-2017, 01:57 PM
So the question for the night is that are the AHC refs so bad and inconsistent that RIT doesn't get called for stuff, or did the HE refs call it right. It does suck that there was such a discrepancy in the number of penalties. I'm surprised Chase Norish didn't play unless he was a little dinged up and Coach didn't want to say. Short had a good game, thought I still expect Drackett to get the majority of playing time.

Here are the number of RIT penalties per game and the result
Northeastern - 9 - T
Union - 5 - L
RPI - 5 - L
ARMY - 6 - W
ARMY - 2 - W
AIC - 2 - W
AIC - 3 - L
RMU - 4 - W
RMU - 5 - W
AFA - 4 - L
AFA - 6 - W
UCONN - 9 - L

komey1
11-27-2017, 02:08 PM
The Hockey East games are clear outliers, and that does not bode well for the upcoming games against Providence. In any case, the penalty kill MUST improve if RIT is going to make a deep run the AHC tournament and beyond.

LtPowers
11-28-2017, 09:40 PM
Page 2? Can't have that.

What are everyone's expectations for the Holy Cross series?

Don't forget to bring your stuffed animals Friday. And does anyone know what "Tiger Den Night" means for Saturday?


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kwh7433
11-29-2017, 07:58 AM
Page 2? Can't have that.

What are everyone's expectations for the Holy Cross series?

Don't forget to bring your stuffed animals Friday. And does anyone know what "Tiger Den Night" means for Saturday?


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"Tiger Den" refers to when the varsity athletes from other teams go to a game together to show support. It's really great for the other sports, not as big a deal for the Hockey games.

Tom Naeger
12-01-2017, 10:24 AM
A look a Holy Cross and Holy Cow they are balanced. Check out their lines, and look at their top 6 point producers...

Mitch Collett#5 Ryan Ferrill#6 Kevin Darrar
Peter Crinella T.J. Moore #2 Danny Lopez#4
Logan Ferguson Michael Laffin#3 Scott Pooley #1
Jay Mackie Andrew Dumaresque Pete Kessel

Tigers are going to have to at least two if not three good lines going this weekend. For those who skipped class Scott Pooley already has 13 goals this season. And with old reliable Paul Berrafato in nets this might be the best Holy Cross team I've seen since RIT jumped to DI...