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brassbonanza
04-14-2017, 10:08 AM
I think Billy Jaffe hit it on the head when he said that keeping it simple was the key. Not trying to do too much. Just doing the basics.

And when he strayed from that at BU was when he got himself into sticky situations. Holding the puck too long at the point on the PP, carrying it into the zone too far and getting caught below the dots with no good options, etc. It goes without saying the Bruins have far better personnel around him than he ever would have at BU so he can stick to playing simple hockey and channeling his focus on the simple plays, but it would've been nice to see him and/or the coaching staff reign him in a bit more.

buoldtimer
04-14-2017, 10:15 AM
I think Billy Jaffe hit it on the head when he said that keeping it simple was the key. Not trying to do too much. Just doing the basics.

As Yaz used to say, "just trying to go with the pitch, trying to hit it up the middle, not trying to hit everything out".

Rover
04-14-2017, 10:58 AM
Was fascinating watching mcavoy last night because i don't know how you could have predicted him playing 24 minutes and playing so well. I didn't see every BU game but i never saw that performance coming. Was he fully invested at BU? Guys around him couldn't keep up? Have no idea but **** he was impressive.

I think it speaks to Quinn's lack of coaching ability vs his stellar recruiting. Too many guys didn't develop or went backwards this year (JFK, Greenway, etc).

ericredaxe
04-14-2017, 10:58 AM
Any Idea what the OOC schedule will look like next year ? going by the last couple of years - Seems like the Denver and Michigan trips this year were return trips for home games in 2015-16, as were the home games versus Harvard/Yale and QPAC .

Besides Cornell @ MSG , any idea what the OOC opponents will be... H VS Colgate ? @ Sacred Heart ?


Denver comes here for one, we don't play at Sacred Heart, we go to QU, I heard over the weekend in Chicago Mankato comes here for two (we're there in 18-19) and there's either two games @ASU or we're playing in the Desert Hockey Classic out there. There was talk in the schedules thread of a BU-Penn State series, but I haven't heard that elsewhere. The games above plus RHH and Beanpot total nine.


I heard @ Union is the 10th non-conference game. Open the regular season there.

Dosent ND leave Hockey East next year? So wouldn't that likely be two less conference games? So possibly 14 OOC games?

brassbonanza
04-14-2017, 11:00 AM
Dosent ND leave Hockey East next year? So wouldn't that likely be two less conference games? So possibly 14 OOC games?

No, they're moving to an unbalanced conference schedule that I think includes one or two more conference games than previous.

ericredaxe
04-14-2017, 11:05 AM
No, they're moving to an unbalanced conference schedule that I think includes one or two more conference games than previous.

Bummer... I'm not a fan of the unbalanced schedule...

boblav1
04-14-2017, 11:23 AM
No, they're moving to an unbalanced conference schedule that I think includes one or two more conference games than previous.

24 league games next season.

brassbonanza
04-14-2017, 11:24 AM
Bummer... I'm not a fan of the unbalanced schedule...

You play everyone twice and I believe there's two or three teams that you play a third time based on a "formula" that HE came up with.

Nick Papagiorgio
04-14-2017, 12:06 PM
You play everyone twice and I believe there's two or three teams that you play a third time based on a "formula" that HE came up with.

Are these the same people that thought adding ND was a good idea and would make everyone rich via tv money?

Rover
04-14-2017, 12:45 PM
Are these the same people that thought adding ND was a good idea and would make everyone rich via tv money?

A long time about I remember CHRIS!!! saying that BC's toughest competition all year would be in practice. Well then, I propose we split BC into two teams, A and B or whatever, and have the B team as the 12th team in Hockey East!

Also, did he get out of the loony bin yet? I know our friends in law enforcement stopped looking the other way once his uncle stepped down from the chamber of commerce. ;)

Sean Pickett
04-14-2017, 01:02 PM
You play everyone twice and I believe there's two or three teams that you play a third time based on a "formula" that HE came up with.The 24 game unbalanced schedule (each team plays 4 other teams three times) has been know since shortly after Notre Dame announced it was leaving Hockey East. College Hockey News had a Q&A with Commissioner Bertagna (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2016/10/11_qa_with__hockey_east_commissioner.php) lasyt October in which he discussed the matter. I created my own possible unbalanced schedule for next season (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1isUqLTZ1J1e016IT_k_KfnL2NLJ1PfBrgsIvzkFZeVw/edit?usp=sharing) using common sense to try and have some natural rivalries get the third game while still having each team play two of the top teams and two of the bottoms teams three times. Based on reported schedules I ended up correct on 3 of the 4 teams Maine plays and 2 of the 4 Merrimack plays.

Sean

Tater
04-14-2017, 03:04 PM
I would hope Keller and Eichel will also be playing on the team.



I don't know about Keller. Very possible. But the fact that he wasn't already named makes me wonder if he turned it down.

Keller has been added. (along with Noah Hanifin)

BUtogether
04-14-2017, 05:39 PM
And when he strayed from that at BU was when he got himself into sticky situations. Holding the puck too long at the point on the PP, carrying it into the zone too far and getting caught below the dots with no good options, etc. It goes without saying the Bruins have far better personnel around him than he ever would have at BU so he can stick to playing simple hockey and channeling his focus on the simple plays, but it would've been nice to see him and/or the coaching staff reign him in a bit more.

Excellent post

kbz
04-14-2017, 06:34 PM
Mazz was trying to popularize the phrase "I've got a chummy for Charlie" on the Sports Hub yesterday.:D:D


"Chubby for Charlie."

chickod
04-14-2017, 06:43 PM
I am a little concerned that expectations have gone from low to astronomical in one night.

Which is the norm for this town, is it not? :)

chickod
04-14-2017, 07:09 PM
Was he fully invested at BU? Guys around him couldn't keep up? Have no idea but **** he was impressive.

Here's what I think is a really comparable analogy. You have to use your imagination a little, but I believe it's applicable none the less. I remember watching Rebecca Lobo in the Division 3 Massachusetts State Championship game at the Centrum (now the DCU Center). She played for Southwick High (a tiny little town south of Springfield in that little "nook" that sticks out of Massachusetts into Connecticut). She was dribbling behind her back, between her legs, bringing the ball up and generally doing everything while her teammates (who, and I'm being as respectful as possible, were four stiffs) stood and watched. But here's the difference. She would INVOLVE them. Every time down the floor she would draw three defenders who would completely surround her. I mean, they were all over her. But, being 6-4, she could easily see and pass over them. So after they surrounded her, she would immediately dish the ball to one of them, who, of course, wouldn't have anybody within ten feet of her. And they would invariably either drop the ball, dribble it off their foot, lose it off their knee, kick it out of bounds, miss the layup, or fall down. It would have been comical if it wasn't sad. Southwick lost the game, but I came away with this impression about her: she NEVER ONCE got upset with her teammates. She didn't yell at them, make faces, throw tantrums, make gestures, or anything else. She just encouraged them, ran down the other end and kept playing. It amazed me because there is no way I could have ever done that. And I'm betting not too many other people can, either. Hence my point. Yeah, it's easy to say "reign him in." It's easy to say he was "not invested." But sometimes when your talent level exceeds others on your team, it puts you in a tough situation. Lobo handled it by trying to involve her teammates so that they wouldn't feel reticent or intimidated around her. But the reality is, she probably would have been better off in some private school where she would have been surrounded by better talent. But maybe she liked it there and didn't want to leave her friends. Who knows? But the OTHER way to handle it is to just do everything yourself. Didn't you (not "you" specifically) ever play on a team, like in 7th grade or something, where one person was obviously WAY above everyone else? How easy do you think it was for them? I think the "gap" in talent on this team between guys like McAvoy, Keller, Greenway, etc and the others was just something that was never resolved. Maybe they didn't really "trust" their teammates. Perhaps you could say it's the coach's job to "get them to" do that. But that's easier said than done.

So for all those people who are saying, "Gee, he didn't play like this at BU." Well, it seems clear now that BU was the exception. Because he was dominant in the World Juniors and obviously he showed something at Providence or the Bruins wouldn't have risked burning a year and bringing him up when they could still have him for three. Also, when you are surrounded by all that comparable talent, it's easier to stay "within yourself" and not try to do too much. It's almost as if because he was so talented, the spotlight was on him and he was blamed for the misfortune of the team.

I have no idea, but my guess is that it's not so much that he wasn't "trying" as much as he put himself in a position to be second-guessed. Moving on was definitely the right decision for HIM. (and before someone says it, yes, I know it's been ONE GAME and I'm not getting giddy about it - but it's clear that, even if he has a bad remainder of the series, which is possible because now he is on Ottawa's radar - he is probably up to stay)

So to answer in a very convoluted and long-winded way (my trademark), I think he WAS fully invested. I just don't think he knew the best way to handle the situation he was in. Which is why I brought up the Lobo analogy, because some would say she handled it "better" by letting her teammates feel as though they were contributing and not being shunned. But that's a subjective judgment. And remember, he DID score the winning goal in their last win of the year and they did get within one OT period of the Frozen Four.

Here's another one (since we're talking college). Did you ever have a professor who was brilliant but couldn't teach worth a dam? Because I had plenty of them (especially at BU, being a research school). It was because (and this is the same reason most great players make lousy coaches) they can't comprehend how people don't "get it" as easily as they do. So they quickly lose patience. Their attitude is "Jeez...why don't they GET this? Why can't they do what I tell them to do. It's so EASY!!!!!" Well, it is for THEM but everyone doesn't have that ability.

Jofa
04-14-2017, 08:23 PM
No one on this board has the attention span to read Chiks last post. That was pure hubris

chickod
04-15-2017, 10:36 AM
No one on this board has the attention span to read Chiks last post. That was pure hubris

But I said I was long-winded. :)

Scarlet
04-15-2017, 11:36 AM
Clifford P Fitzgerald (outstanding rising Junior or Senior defenseman) Brandon Hickey

Regina Eilberg Scholarship (GPA) - Bobo Carpenter

Ed Carpenter Award (leading scorer) - Clayton Keller

Bennett McInnis Award for Spirit - Doyle Somerby

Iron Terrier Award - Doyle Somerby

Most Improved Player - John MacLeod

Friends Albert Sidd Unsung Hero Award - Nick Roberto

George V Brown MVP - Clayton Keller

Scarlet
04-15-2017, 12:23 PM
Home opener September 30 vs Union. MSU Mankato coming in for two. And the Terriers travel to Arizona St. in January!