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JohnsonsJerseys
04-11-2017, 11:38 AM
One thing that is noticeable in terms of Michigan Tech is that you don't seem to like to travel non-conference wise, if that's the case you should probably try and get a few games with NCHC teams or something, come March battle tested teams do tend to prevail.
Huh? All Tech does is travel for NC. Just look at last season: 10 on the road, none at home. I would guess Tech is not playing NCHC teams because none of them will come to Houghton (other than UMD) and they haven't invited Tech to play in their building because they're perceived to be a "weak" WCHA team and they won't sell any tickets. I hardly think Tech is blame for their NC schedule. I would put it squarely on the shoulders of the other top 25 ranked teams who either won't come to Houghton or won't schedule Tech at all.
Ryan

geezer
04-11-2017, 11:38 AM
One thing that is noticeable in terms of Michigan Tech is that you don't seem to like to travel non-conference wise

You might be thinking of Michigan. That's about all Tech does is go on the road for NC games.

Shirtless Guy
04-11-2017, 12:08 PM
Im not really sure what TtD meant about not travelling, but while we have been on the road a lot, we haven't traveled very far other than ASU.
@ UMD, @MSU, @Mich, @Wisc, @ND, GLi in Detroit aren't exactly long trips and that's where MTU has played in NC since the conclusion of the 2012-13 season.
Besides the three non-GLi tournaments (Arizona, Las Vegas, Ice Breaker), MTU has only played 5 teams in NC play over the last 4 seasons.

geezer
04-11-2017, 12:16 PM
The bright lights over on the MGoBlog Board are saying that MI will only hire a MI grad, therefore they will hire Mel Pearson. LOL

MGoBlueHockey
04-11-2017, 12:35 PM
FYI, Mel was on WTKA during the 10-Noon show and when asked if he would pick up the phone if Michigan calls, his quote was-


Mel: Well, you know, uh I've got a great job where I am, Mike. Obviously.....you know I played at Michigan Tech, was an assistant coach there. Michigan's a special place and uhm we'll just see what happens.

Host: Hopefully we'll be talking again

Mel: Well, we'll see, Mike

bigblue_dl
04-11-2017, 12:37 PM
The bright lights over on the MGoBlog Board are saying that MI will only hire a MI grad, therefore they will hire Mel Pearson. LOL

And people consider that a "smart" school. Pffffft.

geezer
04-11-2017, 12:39 PM
FYI, Mel was on WTKA during the 10-Noon show and when asked if he would pick up the phone if Michigan calls, his quote was-

I'm a bit surprised they haven't even approached him yet. Either it's a wide-open preliminary search (doesn't seem likely) or they're negotiating with someone else after getting blown off by Cole. Michigan isn't the kind of job where you seek applicants and then narrow down the pile. And Mel etc. aren't the kind of coaches who apply for a job in the blind.

MGoBlueHockey
04-11-2017, 12:40 PM
I'm a bit surprised they haven't even approached him yet. Either it's a wide-open preliminary search (doesn't seem likely) or they're negotiating with someone else after getting blown off by Cole. Michigan isn't the kind of job where you seek applicants and then narrow down the pile. And Mel etc. aren't the kind of coaches who apply for a job in the blind.

UMICH on here is a fibber. No searching has been going on. Red made his decision LAST WEEK. So it's just starting.

geezer
04-11-2017, 12:41 PM
UMICH on here is a fibber. No searching has been going on. Red made his decision LAST WEEK. So it's just starting.

I guess it's possible that Red was truly undecided until recently...

techtodenver
04-11-2017, 01:41 PM
Sorry I should have clarified, I don't see you coming out east and challenging yourselves against teams that it will help you to see come March. I'm a Clarkson fan and our NC schedule so far is @ Minnesota x2, @ Western Michigan x2, Lowell/Providence, Michigan/Penn State, Belfast Tournament, I just personally feel these schedules give you a feeling of all the leagues and it prepares you best come tournament time. With the ECAC similar to the WCHA we have bottom feeders who really can kill your PWR with one loss here one loss there, look at St. Cloud for example, they've scheduled a gauntlet and were on the bubble with a sub 500 record. It would be nice to see a traditional power like Tech come out east once in awhile, ECAC teams will return the favor as well judging from the past, I'm guessing it could be a money thing?

stuckinwi
04-11-2017, 02:23 PM
Sorry I should have clarified, I don't see you coming out east and challenging yourselves against teams that it will help you to see come March. I'm a Clarkson fan and our NC schedule so far is @ Minnesota x2, @ Western Michigan x2, Lowell/Providence, Michigan/Penn State, Belfast Tournament, I just personally feel these schedules give you a feeling of all the leagues and it prepares you best come tournament time. With the ECAC similar to the WCHA we have bottom feeders who really can kill your PWR with one loss here one loss there, look at St. Cloud for example, they've scheduled a gauntlet and were on the bubble with a sub 500 record. It would be nice to see a traditional power like Tech come out east once in awhile, ECAC teams will return the favor as well judging from the past, I'm guessing it could be a money thing?

If I remember right.. I think St. Lawerence was the last time we went east. I'd agree, I'd love to see a trip out east every other year.

manurespreader
04-11-2017, 02:47 PM
If I remember right.. I think St. Lawerence was the last time we went east. I'd agree, I'd love to see a trip out east every other year.
Well the problem is this. You don't get any more power boost against the ECAC than you do against the big and it's a lot further to go. We already go real far for real long in conference, so to go real far again, such as to St. Lawrence, is not only expensive but takes a lot out of you, all to get nothing better than you get without them.
That's why I've been in favor of playing an eastern team at the GLi. It does get us an eastern team to play, without the added expenses.. It's funny. Robert Morris is a good team and so is RIT and a few others. They have a real difficult time getting a home games against HE or the ECAC, so it's not the distance for them it's some other reason.
Having watched Union at the regional I was pretty surprised by the way they played. I'm sure they are offensively gifted, but they weren't good.

Shirtless Guy
04-11-2017, 02:58 PM
Well the problem is this. You don't get any more power boost against the ECAC than you do against the big and it's a lot further to go. We already go real far for real long in conference, so to go real far again, such as to St. Lawrence, is not only expensive but takes a lot out of you, all to get nothing better than you get without them.
That's why I've been in favor of playing an eastern team at the GLi. It does get us an eastern team to play, without the added expenses.. It's funny. Robert Morris is a good team and so is RIT and a few others. They have a real difficult time getting a home games against HE or the ECAC, so it's not the distance for them it's some other reason.
Having watched Union at the regional I was pretty surprised by the way they played. I'm sure they are offensively gifted, but they weren't good.

I'd like to see MTU get more variety in their schedule but I think thats why they're trying to participate in more tournaments. They got Yale/UConn in Arizona last season, will have Union and either UMD/Min this year, plus whoever is in the Vegas tournament. Also, ND, Mich, MSU, UMD, and UW are/were all good programs at the time the deals were struck so its hard to say MTU is taking it easy on NC scheduling. I'd love to see a little less B1G and a little more NCHC/ECAC/HEA but thats tough. The downstate alums love the games at Michigan/MSU plus the GLi. ND gets a little less attractive now because they're going to be in the same league as MSU, Mich, & UW.

manurespreader
04-11-2017, 03:01 PM
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2017/04/11/michigan-state-hockey-coach/100325654/

if you go to the link it's being broadcast live.

UpNorthHockey
04-11-2017, 04:11 PM
Generally Chis is ok, but I wonder if he just takes Red line Report and paraphrases it. However, I disagree with his assertion that Tech or any other small midwestern school will never win a title and it's a waste of time to try. If that were true we should all quit hockey and go do something else. I was mad at first about it, but after calming down I can see how he would think that. But he also said Michigan has a long way to go to get back to competitive. I disagree with that too. They will be competitive next year.
Yeah, I wasn't endorsing Dilks' elitist comments.....just agreeing with his assertions about why Mel might not be very motivated to leave. I do think Tech could win the national tourney....heck, Ferris almost did it recently and Yale certainly was a dark horse. I just think Dilks is right that Mel has a good thing going in Houghton. He's virtually guaranteed to be a perennial powerhouse in the WCHA and to make regular NCAA tourney appearances if he stays. Plus, he's a hero in a hockey crazy area....probably get a street or rink named after him. At Mich, he'll have a higher stress job in which he'll need to deal with prima donna recruits, fickle fans and perhaps unrealistic expectations. Not sure I'd want that challenge as I approach my 60s. That's not to say that it's easy to keep Tech nationally relevant....few coaches other than Mel could have pulled it off. I just think he's way more appreciated (and needed) in Houghton than he would be in Ann Arbor and is more important to our program. Michigan can always get another excellent coach. For Tech, it's much more of a crap-shoot.

FadeToBlack&Gold
04-11-2017, 07:36 PM
I'd like to see MTU get more variety in their schedule but I think thats why they're trying to participate in more tournaments. They got Yale/UConn in Arizona last season, will have Union and either UMD/Min this year, plus whoever is in the Vegas tournament. Also, ND, Mich, MSU, UMD, and UW are/were all good programs at the time the deals were struck so its hard to say MTU is taking it easy on NC scheduling. I'd love to see a little less B1G and a little more NCHC/ECAC/HEA but thats tough. The downstate alums love the games at Michigan/MSU plus the GLi. ND gets a little less attractive now because they're going to be in the same league as MSU, Mich, & UW.

I agree with basically all of this. However, the point stands that it's total BS that all of our NC games this past season were on the road. If getting more return visits means scheduling ECAC opponents, or one of the better AHA teams, then I say we do it.

manurespreader
04-11-2017, 08:13 PM
I agree with basically all of this. However, the point stands that it's total BS that all of our NC games this past season were on the road. If getting more return visits means scheduling ECAC opponents, or one of the better AHA teams, then I say we do it.
I agree but.... I'm skeptical that ECAC teams, with the exception of Joe Marsh's team, will give us a return visit. I'd love to see them, and I agree with Shirtless too, but ....You might make it more palatable if you had a deal where you give them two games, one against us and 1 against NMU and swap opponents the next night. So two teams charter up, and then the next year Tech and NMU charter east. It might cut the cost enough to make it work.

davyd83
04-11-2017, 08:23 PM
I agree but.... I'm skeptical that ECAC teams, with the exception of Joe Marsh's team, will give us a return visit. I'd love to see them, and I agree with Shirtless too, but ....You might make it more palatable if you had a deal where you give them two games, one against us and 1 against NMU and swap opponents the next night. So two teams charter up, and then the next year Tech and NMU charter east. It might cut the cost enough to make it work.
Terrific idea!

techtodenver
04-11-2017, 08:28 PM
Well for example Clarkson/SLU have been pairing up, with our arrangement with Minnesota/Wisconsin, they came here to Clarkson/SLU for one game each this past season, this year Clarkson goes to Minnesota for 2 with SLU going to Wisconsin for 2, the following season they will come back to upstate NY and in the final year Clarkson goes to Wisconsin for 2 with SLU going to Minnesota for 2. I'm not saying do it with us, that would be great but there are things that can be done to satisfy both sides I feel, I don't know if Tech has someone they would be willing to do that with but I know BG has come up to Clarkson recently. Obviously if costs are tight that makes sense but Clarkson has that covered by donors paying for the travel if I'm not mistaken.

techtodenver
04-11-2017, 08:30 PM
I agree but.... I'm skeptical that ECAC teams, with the exception of Joe Marsh's team, will give us a return visit. I'd love to see them, and I agree with Shirtless too, but ....You might make it more palatable if you had a deal where you give them two games, one against us and 1 against NMU and swap opponents the next night. So two teams charter up, and then the next year Tech and NMU charter east. It might cut the cost enough to make it work.

Hey I have no say but I would love to see it. Also to add Joe Marsh is no longer the coach of SLU, it's Mark Morris who is the former coach of Clarkson, Morris and Marsh are great friends and he does the color commentary on the SLU broadcast.