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rvd5star69
03-06-2017, 12:55 PM
1-12 how would you rank them

LTsatch
03-06-2017, 01:24 PM
Considering that Allain and Bennett are the only coaches who have won the National Championship, I would put Allain at one and Bennett at two. The rest of you can argue about the rest of the cosches.

UFan
03-06-2017, 02:30 PM
Fogarty and Pecknold should be towards the top as well IMO

Ralph Baer
03-06-2017, 02:32 PM
1-12 how would you rank them

Make that 1 - 11. ;)

hockeyplayer1015
03-08-2017, 12:13 AM
Considering that Allain and Bennett are the only coaches who have won the National Championship, I would put Allain at one and Bennett at two. The rest of you can argue about the rest of the cosches.

Morris is the only coach (EVER!!!!!!) to have 300 NCAA wins and 300 Pro (AHL) wins. That's gotta count for something.

Schafer has to be given the honor of best complainer, no? Maybe Pecknold in 2nd for that award. After that, well, maybe a 10 way tie.

LTsatch
03-08-2017, 01:58 AM
Morris is the only coach (EVER!!!!!!) to have 300 NCAA wins and 300 Pro (AHL) wins. That's gotta count for something.

Schafer has to be given the honor of best complainer, no? Maybe Pecknold in 2nd for that award. After that, well, maybe a 10 way tie.

Any NCAA rings on those gents? They have been around a long time. Decent win persentage,but, when the rubber meets the road they are still lacking hardware. Not gloating for the two who have won the ultimate prize, but history only gets you so far.

Dutchman
03-08-2017, 02:05 AM
Considering that Allain and Bennett are the only coaches who have won the National Championship, I would put Allain at one and Bennett at two. The rest of you can argue about the rest of the coaches.

+1

blazer777
03-08-2017, 03:21 AM
Bump

hockeyplayer1015
03-08-2017, 08:41 AM
Any NCAA rings on those gents? They have been around a long time. Decent win persentage,but, when the rubber meets the road they are still lacking hardware. Not gloating for the two who have won the ultimate prize, but history only gets you so far.

/whoosh. Although, sarcasm needs to be a font.

And BS, you're absolutely gloating for atleast 1 of the 2.

Going by your logic, Carey Price can't be the best goalie in the NHL, correct? Hasn't won a cup, thus he's just average. Right? Is that how it works?

FlagDUDE08
03-08-2017, 08:53 AM
/whoosh. Although, sarcasm needs to be a font.

And BS, you're absolutely gloating for atleast 1 of the 2.

Going by your logic, Carey Price can't be the best goalie in the NHL, correct? Hasn't won a cup, thus he's just average. Right? Is that how it works?

This brings me back to Patrick Roy's comment about how his two Stanley Cup rings were in his ears blocking the noise...

LTsatch
03-08-2017, 09:52 AM
/whoosh. Although, sarcasm needs to be a font.

And BS, you're absolutely gloating for atleast 1 of the 2.

Going by your logic, Carey Price can't be the best goalie in the NHL, correct? Hasn't won a cup, thus he's just average. Right? Is that how it works?

I believe most players and coaches would trade a great win percentage or GAA for a ring or a cup. Goalie Bob is better anyway ;)

kdiff77
03-08-2017, 10:56 AM
I'm gonna separate these into tiers. No particular order within each tier.

Top tier:
Allain
Pecknold
Bennett
Schafer

Middle tier:
Fogarty
Donato
Morris
Jones

Bottom tier:
Vaughn
Gaudet

Below all of that:
Brendan Whittet

Overall, I think the league has 8 coaches who are at least very good and I think Vaughn and Gaudet are ok, as well. Their results have been inconsistent over their long tenures but they've had some really good teams (especially Vaughn). Fogarty is one to watch - he's done wonders with a Princeton program that was stuck in the mud for years. He could soon displace Mike Schafer in that top tier. Donato certainly has had some great results but he's also had better talent than anyone else in the league and had some teams with tons of talent that did not live up to expectations on the ice (namely the Biega years). Casey Jones has quietly put together a very nice run at Clarkson, and I think I remember hearing they have some highly-rated recruits coming in so they could be a legit contender within a year or two.

Best coach overall has to go to Allain. He took Yale from a middling (at best) program to a top-5 team that thrived on its explosive offense for years before retooling and emphasizing defensive play and made a crazy national championship run. I think Pecknold's teams have probably been more consistent over the years, but they've struggled to win in both the ECAC and NCAA tournaments (they finally got the ECAC monkey off their backs last year). If QU can win a national championship, I'd swap the two.

Red Hockey
03-08-2017, 02:13 PM
I'd agree with kdiff, although until Cornell's recent resurgence (beginning last year despite the second-half collapse), some would argue that Schafer belongs firmly in that middle tier. Allain is no.1 I think especially after Yale's Cinderella run in 2013. One could argue that the Yale teams before that were better but suffered from bad luck (injuries and such) heading into the NCAA's.