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FlagDUDE08
03-07-2017, 01:16 PM
Fair point, but I'll take my chances. How did Denver know Montgomery was a great bench boss? You just have to go by their laurels and make an educated decision. Barr has coached alongside 2 national championship winning coaches, one of which is arguably the best coach in college hockey. He has made connections in recruiting circles all over North America and spent last season in Mass., a hockey "hotbed" where Appert had zero luck recruiting.

Montgomery was a head coach in the USHL, and won the league title with an expansion team in its first year.

FlagDUDE08
03-07-2017, 01:17 PM
Just so that all you posters on the thread do not stay depressed about this rather sudden change for long. Both Jenny and i are now totally back. In fact, I am available for consideration for the open position at this time. Hate to see this having to come to this but must say it was a long time coming. Best advice is to go way out of the program and system for new coaching talent. Have to turn this downward spiral around quickly as we have been a doormat for too long. BTW, I have always felt we had enough talent that we should not have been absent from the ECAC final four over the past 11 years. I truly got upset and tired of giving away our seats in Lake Placid or Atlantic City (or burning them).
What do we need most? obviously new aggressive coach, new assistants who can coach offensive hockey and the basics that we have been so notoriously poor with, and we need size. Not just big boys but boys who play to their size or bigger. We got sick and tired of watching our kids getting pushed around all over the ice. This sport is for those who are willing to play tough and willing to fight through checks and finish their own checks. Next year does not have to be a typical transition year but with the right guidance, we should be quite capable of competing with anyone.
All our best to those who expressed concern about us. All those who missed us. You know who you are. Great to be back (really never left but just could not voice our true feelings about what was happening). I still bleed RPI Red!!!

He's back! :D We've missed you dearly.

Ralph Baer
03-07-2017, 01:24 PM
We had a "recruiter" for 11 years. How do we know he's a good bench coach?

If nothing else, BB wasn't a goalie, which has been said several times was part of SA's problem.

FlagDUDE08
03-07-2017, 01:26 PM
Monty started the Dubuque program. He coached it with ZERO head coaching experience. In 3 years there he was 73 games over .500. In 3 years at Denver he is 34 games over .500 in one of the toughest conferences in the country. He's had his team ranked #1 in the nation. But go back to the USHL for a second. He went there with no head coAching experience and he won the entire thing 2 out of 3 years. You either "have it" or you don't. You don't need experience, you need a chance. Ben Barr has earned atleast the opportunity. RPI in its current state probably couldn't beat some USHL teams.

Fair enough point, although college hockey is a little tricky. Monty, because of the USHL and starting cold, I don't think we can deny his talents. With a guy like Mongo over at Union, sure he's had success, but I would attribute it a bit more to the players he has, especially given some tough finishes the couple of years prior, so the jury's still out. The same could have been applied to Fridgen, who in his first year, coached to an ECAC championship, but from there, well, we know. You just never know, and I do believe a good chunk of us want to be sure so we don't get stuck into a downward cycle.

drshoen
03-07-2017, 01:27 PM
Just so that all you posters on the thread do not stay depressed about this rather sudden change for long. Both Jenny and i are now totally back. In fact, I am available for consideration for the open position at this time. Hate to see this having to come to this but must say it was a long time coming. Best advice is to go way out of the program and system for new coaching talent. Have to turn this downward spiral around quickly as we have been a doormat for too long. BTW, I have always felt we had enough talent that we should not have been absent from the ECAC final four over the past 11 years. I truly got upset and tired of giving away our seats in Lake Placid or Atlantic City (or burning them).
What do we need most? obviously new aggressive coach, new assistants who can coach offensive hockey and the basics that we have been so notoriously poor with, and we need size. Not just big boys but boys who play to their size or bigger. We got sick and tired of watching our kids getting pushed around all over the ice. This sport is for those who are willing to play tough and willing to fight through checks and finish their own checks. Next year does not have to be a typical transition year but with the right guidance, we should be quite capable of competing with anyone.
All our best to those who expressed concern about us. All those who missed us. You know who you are. Great to be back (really never left but just could not voice our true feelings about what was happening). I still bleed RPI Red!!!

Welcome back Dr. D - even non-RPI posters enjoy having you back!

FlagDUDE08
03-07-2017, 01:27 PM
If nothing else, BB wasn't a goalie, which has been said several times was part of SA's problem.

You can say that again; in the last few years, we've seemed clueless in front of our own blue line.

turk181
03-07-2017, 01:38 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After talking with several people in hockey circles over last 24 hours, it&#39;s unanimous that RPI job is Ben Barr&#39;s if he wants it.</p>&mdash; Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/839174487664906240">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The two other names most frequently mentioned were Dubuque Fighting Saints head coach Jason Lammers and Chicago Steel head coach Dan Muse.</p>&mdash; Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/839174664689713153">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

johnk
03-07-2017, 01:58 PM
I wonder if Mark Jooris is being considered or would consider the position himself.

DavidSec17
03-07-2017, 02:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After talking with several people in hockey circles over last 24 hours, it&#39;s unanimous that RPI job is Ben Barr&#39;s if he wants it.</p>&mdash; Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/839174487664906240">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The two other names most frequently mentioned were Dubuque Fighting Saints head coach Jason Lammers and Chicago Steel head coach Dan Muse.</p>&mdash; Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/839174664689713153">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Welcome back Doc!

These 2 coaches have some pretty impressive resumes.

Ralph Baer
03-07-2017, 02:37 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coach <a href="https://twitter.com/seth">@Seth</a> appert it was an honor to play for <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIHockey">@rpihockey</a>. It gave me the opportunity to succeed in hockey. It was an even bigger honor(1/3)</p>&mdash; Ryan Haggerty (@Haggerty39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Haggerty39/status/839196967305633792">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To have you lead us on and off the ice and create the rpi hockey family and culture that is known there today. I would (2/3)</p>&mdash; Ryan Haggerty (@Haggerty39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Haggerty39/status/839197120028639233">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">stand behind you in a battle any day (3/3)</p>&mdash; Ryan Haggerty (@Haggerty39) <a href="https://twitter.com/Haggerty39/status/839197189045878784">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ralph Baer
03-07-2017, 02:47 PM
Tim Spadafore is apparently no longer an alumnus. :eek:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/SethAppert">@SethAppert</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey">@RPI_Hockey</a> Seth, thank you for making us feel welcome as former alumni and I wish you the best for your next adventure</p>&mdash; Timothy Spadafore (@timspadafore) <a href="https://twitter.com/timspadafore/status/839115250792284161">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rvd5star69
03-07-2017, 02:57 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After talking with several people in hockey circles over last 24 hours, it&#39;s unanimous that RPI job is Ben Barr&#39;s if he wants it.</p>&mdash; Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/839174487664906240">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The two other names most frequently mentioned were Dubuque Fighting Saints head coach Jason Lammers and Chicago Steel head coach Dan Muse.</p>&mdash; Jeff Cox (@JeffCoxSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffCoxSports/status/839174664689713153">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Benny played with coach graham in 03 correct ?

Don't know much about the other 2 guys

turk181
03-07-2017, 03:06 PM
Benny played with coach graham in 03 correct ?

Don't know much about the other 2 guys01/02 & 02/03

jericho
03-07-2017, 03:19 PM
Just so that all you posters on the thread do not stay depressed about this rather sudden change for long. Both Jenny and i are now totally back. In fact, I am available for consideration for the open position at this time. Hate to see this having to come to this but must say it was a long time coming. Best advice is to go way out of the program and system for new coaching talent. Have to turn this downward spiral around quickly as we have been a doormat for too long. BTW, I have always felt we had enough talent that we should not have been absent from the ECAC final four over the past 11 years. I truly got upset and tired of giving away our seats in Lake Placid or Atlantic City (or burning them).
What do we need most? obviously new aggressive coach, new assistants who can coach offensive hockey and the basics that we have been so notoriously poor with, and we need size. Not just big boys but boys who play to their size or bigger. We got sick and tired of watching our kids getting pushed around all over the ice. This sport is for those who are willing to play tough and willing to fight through checks and finish their own checks. Next year does not have to be a typical transition year but with the right guidance, we should be quite capable of competing with anyone.
All our best to those who expressed concern about us. All those who missed us. You know who you are. Great to be back (really never left but just could not voice our true feelings about what was happening). I still bleed RPI Red!!!

Happy to see that you made your reappearance here instead of the Cafe's Dead thread :D

FlagDUDE08
03-07-2017, 03:20 PM
Lammers might be interesting. Dubuque seems to be a bit of a powerhouse that is just reloading ever since Monty set them up for success. Of course, that could be saying a lot in that he's able to keep the team doing very well, similar to what we've seen with Pecknold at Quinnipiac. Might not be a bad look.

Muse has turned around the Steel this year, but I do wonder how long we have to wait for improvements, as it did take an additional year with the Steel not doing so well previously; is he going to be highly dependent on "his guys", and what happens with the injury curve ball we've seem to have been bitten by quite a bit?

Ralph Baer
03-07-2017, 03:23 PM
Another name from the past, but one who didn't play for SA. (Vic Pereira)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/SethAppert">@SethAppert</a> Thanks for making alumni relations a priority and for reestablishing the proud sense of being an Engineer! All the best.</p>&mdash; Victor Pereira (@V_I_Dub) <a href="https://twitter.com/V_I_Dub/status/839208816784789504">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ralph Baer
03-07-2017, 03:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/PKerins11">@PKerins11</a> thanks Paul - I'm proud of you and who you are so I'll take that as a compliment.</p>&mdash; Seth Appert (@SethAppert) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethAppert/status/839211082883481601">March 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kerins's tweets are protected.

LTsatch
03-07-2017, 03:30 PM
If nothing else, BB wasn't a goalie, which has been said several times was part of SA's problem.

Allain was a goalie.

Ralph Baer
03-07-2017, 03:32 PM
Allain was a goalie.

There are exceptions to every rule. :D

except for the rule which I just posted

LTsatch
03-07-2017, 03:32 PM
Lammers might be interesting. Dubuque seems to be a bit of a powerhouse that is just reloading ever since Monty set them up for success. Of course, that could be saying a lot in that he's able to keep the team doing very well, similar to what we've seen with Pecknold at Quinnipiac. Might not be a bad look.

Muse has turned around the Steel this year, but I do wonder how long we have to wait for improvements, as it did take an additional year with the Steel not doing so well previously; is he going to be highly dependent on "his guys", and what happens with the injury curve ball we've seem to have been bitten by quite a bit?

Muse was an essential part of the Yale turnaround and knows the league very well. He is certainly missed here.