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Scarlet
03-25-2017, 04:25 PM
I guess you saw footage that they didn't show on TV. Do I think he was offsides yes I think he was but did they have conclusive evidence to show it, no you can only infer that he was offsides iand the rule is you have to have conclusive evidence but that doesn't matter if your BU if your BU you get the call.


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I'm thinking the refs saw footage TV viewers didn't. And the footage I saw showed he was offsides. Baaaaaarely. But still, offsides. Now, if you want to join the group here who think that replays shouldn't be used for things like offsides, or that the offsides happened so much before the goal was scored, that is a legit argument. I'm ambivalent about the whole replay thing, personally. If it wasn't in existence, game would be over. But it is, they used it, they saw the play was offsides and called it. My team benefitted so I'm glad it is in existence.

NU_Husky
03-25-2017, 04:37 PM
I'm thinking the refs saw footage TV viewers didn't. And the footage I saw showed he was offsides. Baaaaaarely. But still, offsides. Now, if you want to join the group here who think that replays shouldn't be used for things like offsides, or that the offsides happened so much before the goal was scored, that is a legit argument. I'm ambivalent about the whole replay thing, personally. If it wasn't in existence, game would be over. But it is, they used it, they saw the play was offsides and called it. My team benefitted so I'm glad it is in existence.

I agree with this. The angle from behind the play showed him clearly offsides, IMO.

Someone made a very good point about replay, I forget where. Twitter I think. They said a team's season hangs in the balance of a call like that. Given that, take all the time you need to make the right call.

northeastern
03-25-2017, 05:07 PM
i gotta agree with the last 2 posts (nuhusky, scarlet).. i think if that gm was a regular 'in season' gm.. maybe they dont take that much time & und gets the benefit in that ot.

but because it was a one & done ncaa gm.. they took their time to make the call way they did. it is what it is.

hopefully bu can make something out of that (from yesterday).. if not.. duluth was my pick moving on from that region anyway, with denver taking it all in the end.

UML Puck Hawk
03-25-2017, 05:45 PM
Analysis of Lowell win with quotes:

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/hockey-east/2017/3/25/15060850/ncaa-northeast-regional-umass-lowell-blows-by-cornell-lohin-smith-wilson-dmowski-wall-bazin-schafer

1. This is the NU thread

2. JOE Gambardella

NU_Husky
03-25-2017, 07:42 PM
Vecchione, ZAR's top Hobey rival, tied him in points today with a single assist. Union lost 10-3 to Penn State. ZAR/Vecchione had 63 points in 38 games. IMO that bad a loss *has* to be a negative in Vecchione's candidacy column. They didn't just lose. They got embarrassed. Anyone who tries to refute that by saying 'it's not a team award' no longer can hold NU's record or lack of tournament play against them as a negative.

Thiessen'sBetter
03-25-2017, 11:11 PM
Vecchione, ZAR's top Hobey rival, tied him in points today with a single assist. Union lost 10-3 to Penn State. ZAR/Vecchione had 63 points in 38 games. IMO that bad a loss *has* to be a negative in Vecchione's candidacy column. They didn't just lose. They got embarrassed. Anyone who tries to refute that by saying 'it's not a team award' no longer can hold NU's record or lack of tournament play against them as a negative.

Today confirmed what I already thought. ZAR was the best player in college hockey and should win the award. It will be very disappointing if he doesn't. Also, here's a hot take: Vecchione isn't the best player on his own team, Spencer Foo is.

Thiessen'sBetter
03-26-2017, 01:18 AM
So, BU didn't get a penalty in OT??? I guess Greenway was just gassed and decided to sit in the box for a couple of minutes. Understandable. I also obviously missed that their game winning goal was a PPG.

So plowing the goalie over and getting called for GI is the same thing as getting a GWG overturned after a lengthy review using the reverse angle? C'mon. And for the record, I thought he was probably offside but I felt it wasn't enough to overturn. The main center ice camera would have been definitive but the shot was too zoomed in on the ESPN broadcast to see the possible offside player. It is possible the center ice camera used for the Jumbo feed had a good shot of it, did the officials ever release an explanation?

Split-N
03-26-2017, 10:13 AM
...Do I think he was offsides yes I think he was but did they have conclusive evidence to show it, no you can only infer that he was offsides iand the rule is you have to have conclusive evidence but that doesn't matter if your BU if your BU you get the call...

Bearing in mind that the last place you'll ever find me is on the BU bandwagon, I have to jump in and respectfully disagree. One of the replay views I saw clearly showed a sliver of white ice between the back edge of the player's skates and the determining (front) edge of the blueline. The play is therefore offside and the goal must be disallowed. Under the current rules, the officiating crew made the right call for the right reason. Period.

Now, do I think replay is being overused? Hell yes! What started out as something limited to verifying goal/no-goal calls (the most important calls made in any game), replay now extends to almost everything but verifying that a player's skates are tied correctly. The human element (including officials' judgment) is one of the things that make competitive sports so compelling but there are those who seem hell bent to replace it with technology. If that's what you want, then go ahead and replace the zebras with sensors and cameras. But I don't think you'll like what you get. I'll take the sometimes outrageous fortunes wrought by the human element, including BU overtime PPs.

But that's a different subject for a different thread.

Richard
03-26-2017, 01:16 PM
BU lost, I don't care anymore, and SH. Love it!


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NU_Husky
03-26-2017, 08:09 PM
Jake Theut shut out Notre Dame, who has advanced to the Frozen Four. The last NU goalie to shut out a team that made the NCAA tournament was Clay Witt in 2013-14, also was Notre Dame. A 4-0 win.

The last NU goalie to shut out a team that made the NCAA Frozen Four was Keni Gibson in 2003-04, shutting out BC 3-0.

Thiessen'sBetter
03-27-2017, 12:31 PM
Definitely no ZAR, Kelleher, Bjork, Keller, Gambardella, Walman, Byron, Zink, White, RFitz, Gross, Cangelosi and Thompson in Hockey East next year and maybe no CJ Smith, McAvoy, Greenway or JFK. It's certainly set up for Gaudette, Sikura or Nolan to have another NU player take a run at conference POTY.

Gr8Sk8M8
03-27-2017, 01:02 PM
JStevens to NY Islanders...

NU_Husky
03-27-2017, 01:27 PM
JStevens to NY Islanders...

Couldn't have happened to a better person. Thrilled for him. WBS hosts Bridgeport april 15 if anyone local wants to see ZAR vs Johnny

TheRevengeance
03-27-2017, 04:25 PM
Best of luck to John. Can't imagine many better people have come through college hockey, much less our small corner of it. https://t.co/UCNRzXVJcf

northeastern
03-27-2017, 05:46 PM
great to hear, all the best John!

HungryHungryHuskies
03-27-2017, 10:38 PM
Surprised I haven't seen more ZAR talk on this thread. Six points in four games (all wins for WBS), picking up right where he left off with NU.

Thiessen'sBetter
03-28-2017, 12:30 AM
Best of luck to John. Can't imagine many better people have come through college hockey, much less our small corner of it. https://t.co/UCNRzXVJcf

Completley agree with this. I was thinking today how likeable this team was. Just a great group of guys. Probably my favorite team since 08-09 and I'd put ZAR and Johnny up there with guys like Vitale, McNeely and Macleod. Jamieson and Pond were fan favorite depth players much like Donovan, Costa and McCauley were back in 08-09 too.

northeastern
03-29-2017, 03:08 PM
Alex Mella (Shattuck-St. Mary's Prep) has committed to Northeastern University for 2018-2019 per Hockey Commitments.

northeastern
03-29-2017, 03:21 PM
Alex Mella (Shattuck-St. Mary's Prep) has committed to Northeastern University for 2018-2019 per Hockey Commitments.

want to add.. good Shattuck get for NU & kid gets to play in the northeast which i believe is bit closer to home? Either way, congrats to him

NU_Husky
03-29-2017, 06:47 PM
On new recruit Alex Mella: http://northeasternhockeyblog.com/2017/shattuck-st-marys-forward-alex-mella-commits-to-northeastern-huskies-jim-madigan-jerry-keefe/