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Todd
02-26-2017, 01:33 AM
After Sat Feb 25:
ND 1 @ BU 4
NU 4 @ ME 5
UMA 1 @ PC 2 (OT)
UNH 2 @ CT 4
MC 3 @ UVM 2


UML29[1.1]
BU 29[1.2]
BC 29[1.3]
ND 28[4]


--- Bye Lock 27 (PC tb) ---


PC 27[5]
UVM24[6]
MC 22[7]
NU 21[8]

--- Home Lock 20 (CT tb) ---

--- R1 Road (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/On_the_Road_Again.ogg) - 20 (MC/UNH/CT) ---

CT 20[ 9]
UNH18[10]
ME 12[11]
UMA 5[12]


Upcoming schedules:
UML - Bye
BU - Bye
BC - Bye
ND - Bye
PC - UMA x2/3
UVM - ME x2/3
MC - UNH x2/3
NU - CT x2/3
CT - @NU x2/3
UNH - @MC x2/3
ME - @UVM x2/3
UMA - @PC x2/3

Fun facts:

As seems to happen more often than you'd think, teams facing off on the final weekend play again in the first round of the playoffs. This time it's PC hosting UMA again after the H/H this weekend, the latter at PC.

Prior to tonight, I recall only one other 3WT in the final HE standings. That was when 09-10 BU/ME/UML tied for 3rd in perhaps the closest results ever in HE, certainly from 3-9 - which were separated by four points and included a different 2WT for 6/7 as well.

In a statistical oddity, BC rode a 8-0-1 league start to run wire-to-wire without ever trailing in the league standings... but is the 3 seed. They were swept by the other two teams tied for 1st and split with the other Bye team. Plus, BU beat them in the non-conf Beanpot opener. That gives the Eagles a 1-6-0 record against the rest of the top four.

One thing that is true about ND that is not true of the other three Bye teams - or, in fact, most of the rest of the league? They lost to UMA. UMA only took 5 points in league play (also beat MC and tied CT in back-to-back games), but their 5-4 win over the Irish could arguably be what kept ND from at least a share of first place.

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Quarterfinal peek:

If the first round goes according to seed, the next round would have:

ND hosting PC. They played last weekend with a tie coming after a ND win - but that first game was tied into the early 3rd. Also, PC's schedule begins to look like a palindrome.

BC hosting UVM. They also played last weekend and had two ties.

BU hosting MC. MC swept BU in a Tue-Fri series immediately after BU was named #1 in the country.

UML hosting NU. These two played two close, late-decided games on the two Fridays before the Beanpot and split.

That makes the BU/MC pair on Jan 24 & Jan 27 the least-recent matchup, by only a few days compared to UML/NU's Jan 27 & Feb 3 pair. Still, all of these matchups happened within the last month-ish, so the teams should be fresh in each other's minds.

The higher seeds have a collective 2-3-3 record in these pairings.

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PWR report:

Union and Cornell tied each other tonight, which allowed victorious BU to move up to 7th and idle UML to move up to 6th. Union fell to 8 and Cornell is at 10.

Even though they lost, ND rose up to a tie for 10 with Cornell (11th after TB), while PC dropped from winning a tie at 11 to 12th outright - despite their victory. All of this was, I'm sure, helped by Wisco (now 13), SCSU (14), OSU (15) and NoDak (16) all losing tonight.

ND wins all the pairs below and loses all the pairs above, while PC takes the Cornell pair above them, but loses to both ND and BC, who is below, due to league results H2H.

UML and BU split H2H, and match COP - which makes sense since they tied in the league, plus each won an extra non-league game against a HE opponent (BU over BC, and UML over UMA). UML currently leads in RPI, but by virtue of their higher seed, they will play the mathematically lesser opponent in the quarterfinals. These two could match results after their Bye, but BU could move ahead because of facing a tougher opponent on paper. Also, BC's results will weigh more heavily on BU because of the extra game, as UMA's will for UML. If they meet, as the 1 and 2 seeds, that would have to be in the HE final. That game would likely decide the pair as the H2H win and RPI boost should surpass the RPI drop of the loser, even if one plays a three-game QF series (absorbing a loss) and the other wins a 2-0 QFs.

UVM's loss drops them into the tie for 19th with idle BC.

BUPhD
02-26-2017, 08:10 AM
Seems crazy that you can end up one game's worth of points off the top of the table and end up having to host an extra series.

Todd
02-26-2017, 01:36 PM
Seems crazy that you can end up one game's worth of points off the top of the table and end up having to host an extra series.

Even crazier is 09-10 when NU finished two games' worth of points out of 3rd and missed the post-season completely. And, of course, HE sent three teams to the NCAAs that year - but they were the 1, 2, and 8 seeds.

So UVM, who was only one league point better than a team that missed the HE tourney made the national tourney - as an at-large bid.

mookie1995
02-26-2017, 02:19 PM
if we see all the higher seeds advance (and igles win 2g to 1 over uvm)...... it could be GQ leading his boys into the garden to help jrrrry tie the record :D


scarlet has been praying for this for some time now.

riverchief1
02-26-2017, 02:31 PM
if we see all the higher seeds advance (and igles win 2g to 1 over uvm)...... it could be GQ leading his boys into the garden to help jrrrry tie the record :D


scarlet has been praying for this for some time now.

At least if BU makes the Garden, it won't be a lost evening for Mookie as the nachos there aren't bad and Jasmine will be in the house.

BUPhD
02-26-2017, 04:14 PM
Even crazier is 09-10 when NU finished two games' worth of points out of 3rd and missed the post-season completely. And, of course, HE sent three teams to the NCAAs that year - but they were the 1, 2, and 8 seeds.

So UVM, who was only one league point better than a team that missed the HE tourney made the national tourney - as an at-large bid.

Well that's a quirk of the PWR and out of conference stuff. Heck, this season, one of the co-champions (BC) looks to need a serious run in the conference tourney if they want to make the the national tourney (as does the 6th place team, Vermont) where 4th and 5th are currently above the cut line albeit don't want to lose out.

mookie1995
02-27-2017, 09:12 AM
At least if BU makes the Garden, it won't be a lost evening for Mookie as the nachos there aren't bad and Jasmine will be in the house.

puhleeze.

those nachos don't come close to comparing vs the tsong's. :)

Todd
02-28-2017, 05:30 PM
Well that's a quirk of the PWR and out of conference stuff. Heck, this season, one of the co-champions (BC) looks to need a serious run in the conference tourney if they want to make the the national tourney (as does the 6th place team, Vermont) where 4th and 5th are currently above the cut line albeit don't want to lose out.All true.


Funny that one year the 8 seed gets an at-large, and a different year, a team that was never out of first place may need the auto-bid to get in.

Tater
03-01-2017, 11:27 AM
Well that's a quirk of the PWR and out of conference stuff. Heck, this season, one of the co-champions (BC) looks to need a serious run in the conference tourney if they want to make the the national tourney (as does the 6th place team, Vermont) where 4th and 5th are currently above the cut line albeit don't want to lose out.

When only 2 points separates 1st-5th place and only 5 points separates 1st-6th place, these "quirks" become less surprising.

John J. MacInnes
03-02-2017, 08:45 AM
Bump to get all the Asian spam off the front page.

J.D.
03-03-2017, 09:25 PM
Very strong showing by the road teams tonight

chickod
03-03-2017, 09:30 PM
Very strong showing by the road teams tonight

We came within two minutes of ALL FOUR teams being shutout. Unbelievable...what a joke. Let's put EVERY Division 1 team in the playoffs in every league next year.

GreenCat
03-03-2017, 09:51 PM
We came within two minutes of ALL FOUR teams being shutout. Unbelievable...what a joke. Let's put EVERY Division 1 team in the playoffs in every league next year.

What about the occasional Cinderella story that comes into play alll college sports? Where is your spirit? This isn't the NHL

chickod
03-03-2017, 09:56 PM
What about the occasional Cinderella story that comes into play alll college sports? Where is your spirit? This isn't the NHL

Sorry. Cinderella story from the 8th seed is one thing. Not the 12th. What's the point of the regular season? How would you like it if your team finished say, fifth in the league and lost a series to a 2-18 team? (and don't say, "Well, that's the way it goes.") Or are you one of those "everyone gets a participation ribbon" people?

It's all about the money. Of course, the laugh is on them, at least at NU because the place was practically empty tonight. Good. If enough people don't buy into it maybe it will go away (doubtful). And I'm the biggest culprit, forking over $59.95 to watch these debacles...

boblav1
03-03-2017, 09:59 PM
Tonight's attendance:

NU - 1,228
PC - 1,876
MC - 2,549 (sellout)
UVM - 3,110

I'm not sure if any of the schools are on break.

chickod
03-03-2017, 10:03 PM
Tonight's attendance:

NU - 1,228
PC - 1,876
MC - 2,549 (sellout)
UVM - 3,110

I'm not sure if any of the schools are on break.

Break or no...just pathetic.

northeastern
03-03-2017, 10:05 PM
Tonight's attendance:

NU - 1,228
PC - 1,876
MC - 2,549 (sellout)
UVM - 3,110

I'm not sure if any of the schools are on break.

NU is on Spring break. Not sure if its all the schools.. but kids def on break.

chickod
03-03-2017, 10:12 PM
NU is on Spring break. Not sure if its all the schools.. but kids def on break.

So there are hardly any adult fans? (It's really more of a rhetorial question, because I can't blame people for staying home) There's only so much money that people will spend on endless "playoff" games. And the thing is, as long as they get SPONSORS to pay (because that's where the REAL revenue comes from), they'll play the game if ZERO people are in the stands. And I think that's sad.

EDIT: And as long as they get morons like me to fork over $59.95 they'll keep having the games too :) Did you ever try to "recall" an email from Outlook? That's how I feel right about now. I want my money back...

northeastern
03-03-2017, 10:17 PM
EDIT: And as long as they get morons like me to fork over $59.95 they'll keep having the games too :) Did you ever try to "recall" an email from Outlook? That's how I feel right about now. I want my money back...

ha.. their feed not great as well.
Bertagna will meet with the Russian Ambassador to work on your refund. ;)

chickod
03-03-2017, 10:25 PM
ha.. their feed not great as well.
Bertagna will meet with the Russian Ambassador to work on your refund. ;)

And while we're on the topic...I usually plug the cable from my laptop into my big screen TV. Well, the "full screen" button on the Hockey East feed didn't work, so even when you selected a game as the "featured" game it only filled up less than half the screen. So I had to watch everything on my laptop. What a waste...