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oldchfan
11-11-2016, 09:13 AM
Is this going to be the last year of the North Star College Cup? I have heard from 2 sources that it is done after this year but can't find any more info to confirm it.

Middle Street
11-11-2016, 10:31 AM
Is this going to be the last year of the North Star College Cup? I have heard from 2 sources that it is done after this year but can't find any more info to confirm it.

This article mentions the uncertainty of extending the tournament. Nothing official though.
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2016/11/10/13591118/minnesota-minnesota-duluth-new-agreement-2022-2023

FlagDUDE08
11-11-2016, 10:58 AM
With Notre Dame joining the Big Roll-a-D20 for hockey, it will more than likely bring them up to 24 conference games (I don't know if there's anything concrete to support that, but with 7 teams and they already play each other 4 times in that league for 20 games, it's at least a hypothesis). Given this is centered around smaller Minnesota schools wanting to play UMTC as it was in the old WCHA, let's consider their schedule. 24 conference games (assumed), add 2 for the Mariucci tournament, and with a 34 game limit, leaves four weekends (let's assume they don't pull a Michigan and start doing one-and-dones).

Not to mention, how much revenue does the tournament generate each year? Is it at least a positive number? If not, all school involved are better off just trying to bring in some other teams across the nation.

purpleinnebraska
11-11-2016, 11:02 AM
Is this going to be the last year of the North Star College Cup? I have heard from 2 sources that it is done after this year but can't find any more info to confirm it.

I've enjoyed attending it, but if it's not a big money maker, I don't know that it will be greatly missed. We've played UMD, SCSU, and the U multiple times, both home and away, since the realignment. As long as the schools continue scheduling each other (and dropping this would free up one more weekend to do that), there really isn't a big need for it. The only real advantages to it over regular games are that I get to see 4 games in a weekend instead of 2, and I get to make a trip to the X without spending $100 a seat. But for the non-U games, let's just say that plenty of good seats are available.

beaverhockeyfan
11-11-2016, 03:41 PM
There was a blurb in today's StarTribune that the Gophs and UMD had signed into a four series over five year contract with home and home series each year. It starts with the 2018-19 season. That would make sense if the North Star Cup is on the way out.

BSUBeavs
11-11-2016, 08:37 PM
There was a blurb in today's StarTribune that the Gophs and UMD had signed into a four series over five year contract with home and home series each year. It starts with the 2018-19 season. That would make sense if the North Star Cup is on the way out. I hope that doesn't mean we won't get Minnesota on the schedule anymore. If the North Star Cup does get scrapped I would love to see BSU get as many of the MN schools as possible on the schedule. We already play Mankato and UMD every year anyways but would love to get a home and home or alternating series with both SCSU and UMN. Not sure if it could work out with the limited weekends available but would love to see it happen

beaverhockeyfan
11-11-2016, 08:53 PM
I hope that doesn't mean we won't get Minnesota on the schedule anymore. If the North Star Cup does get scrapped I would love to see BSU get as many of the MN schools as possible on the schedule. We already play Mankato and UMD every year anyways but would love to get a home and home or alternating series with both SCSU and UMN. Not sure if it could work out with the limited weekends available but would love to see it happen

The issue you have is that the WCHA has a 28 game league schedule, only leaving four to six games open for non-conference, depending on the Alaska exemption. I want to see North Dakota remain on the schedule as they have been the most accomidating on scheduling BSU since the Beavers moved to D-I. UMD has been the next, so it would be nice to see them remain there as well. So, that only leaves the Alaska years where BSU could try and schedule Minnesota or St. Cloud.

Biddco
11-15-2016, 05:25 PM
There was a blurb in today's StarTribune that the Gophs and UMD had signed into a four series over five year contract with home and home series each year. It starts with the 2018-19 season. That would make sense if the North Star Cup is on the way out.

https://twitter.com/mattwellens/status/798625363001651200

Sounds like it is done. Too bad as I hoped it could grow into something really cool...but it just wasn't in the cards.

beaverhockeyfan
11-15-2016, 06:53 PM
https://twitter.com/mattwellens/status/798625363001651200

Sounds like it is done. Too bad as I hoped it could grow into something really cool...but it just wasn't in the cards.

That sucks. I wonder if one cycle is really giving it enough time to be successful? Seems like everything here as of late is a quick/knee jerk reaction.

joecct
11-16-2016, 10:41 AM
That sucks. I wonder if one cycle is really giving it enough time to be successful? Seems like everything here as of late is a quick/knee jerk reaction.

Hint: Gophers didn't win

St. Clown
11-16-2016, 10:46 AM
That sucks. I wonder if one cycle is really giving it enough time to be successful? Seems like everything here as of late is a quick/knee jerk reaction.


Hint: Gophers didn't win

Exactly. The tournament needed the Gophers to be successful to their fans would have a reason to show up en masse. Since the Gophers have never won the thing (have they even won a single game in the tournament?), their casual fans weren't interested. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the tournament has been a net money loser.

gopher wes
11-16-2016, 11:15 AM
Exactly. The tournament needed the Gophers to be successful to their fans would have a reason to show up en masse. Since the Gophers have never won the thing (have they even won a single game in the tournament?), their casual fans weren't interested. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the tournament has been a net money loser.
Pretty sure they won the inaugural in a shootout against UMD.

Pump It Up
11-16-2016, 11:29 AM
Pretty sure they won the inaugural in a shootout against UMD.

That's correct. The Gophers won via shootout (4-4 tie for official purposes) against Duluth in 2014.

They have not won a game since. In 2015 they lost twice, with BSU winning. In 2016 they lost twice, with SCSU winning.

gopher wes
11-16-2016, 11:50 AM
That's correct. The Gophers won via shootout (4-4 tie for official purposes) against Duluth in 2014.

They have not won a game since. In 2015 they lost twice, with BSU winning. In 2016 they lost twice, with SCSU winning.
Tied with MSU for the worst record since the creation of the tournament.......:(:o

Biddco
11-19-2016, 04:00 PM
I wonder how this would been different had it been during the holidays...

Fanbases just are not big enough, it's too bad.

Bonin21
11-19-2016, 04:04 PM
Tied with MSU for the worst record since the creation of the tournament.......:(:o

Worst record in the official books, though. 1-4-1. Pathetic.

icehawk
11-19-2016, 04:24 PM
I wonder how this would been different had it been during the holidays...

Fanbases just are not big enough, it's too bad.

Get UND in it and that would solve the attendance issues. ;)

Bonin21
11-19-2016, 05:02 PM
We're okay with minimizing the number of times drunk Whioux fans can punch holes in the walls of our arenas. Plus, we know the drive home is depressing knowing they live in North Dakota.

icehawk
11-19-2016, 05:50 PM
We're okay with minimizing the number of times drunk Whioux fans can punch holes in the walls of our arenas. Plus, we know the drive home is depressing knowing they live in North Dakota.

You just come up with that?

Bonin21
11-19-2016, 06:06 PM
You just come up with that?

Well no, the state they go home do didn't suck overnight.