Apparently (I didn't go to the game) there was a rumor going around that SUNY Canton was denied entry into the SUNYAC conference. I find that hard to believe since the SUNY teams are still required / encouraged to schedule them. Does anyone have definitive word on what their schedule is into full Div III membership and if/when they'll join the SUNY conference?
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Originally posted by spwood View PostApparently (I didn't go to the game) there was a rumor going around that SUNY Canton was denied entry into the SUNYAC conference. I find that hard to believe since the SUNY teams are still required / encouraged to schedule them. Does anyone have definitive word on what their schedule is into full Div III membership and if/when they'll join the SUNY conference?
But the same birdie did not tell me anything about Canton's future moves.Russell Jaslow
[Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
U.S. College Hockey Online
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Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View PostI little birdie told me that is correct.
But the same birdie did not tell me anything about Canton's future moves.The Poster Formerly Known as Purple_and_Gold10©
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Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View PostI'm pretty sure that next year or the year after they are full D3.Russell Jaslow
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I believe Canton has been looking at some alternative options as well outside of SUNYAC. Might know more later this year.The Poster Formerly Known as Purple_and_Gold10©
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Any idea as to why they were rejected? How does it benefit the SUNYAC to not have them? They're a SUNY, geographically their closest competitors are SUNYs (Potsdam and Plattsburgh) and the bylaws would force them into a SUNYAC women's hockey conference and keep the ECAC West autobid if Canton is a member and they can get one more SUNYAC school to start a women's team (looking at Geneseo, Fredonia and Brockport).
Looking at things on the outside, rejecting Canton makes little sense.
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Originally posted by Scott_TG View PostAny idea as to why they were rejected? How does it benefit the SUNYAC to not have them? They're a SUNY, geographically their closest competitors are SUNYs (Potsdam and Plattsburgh) and the bylaws would force them into a SUNYAC women's hockey conference and keep the ECAC West autobid if Canton is a member and they can get one more SUNYAC school to start a women's team (looking at Geneseo, Fredonia and Brockport).
Looking at things on the outside, rejecting Canton makes little sense.
And I agree.
(BTW, if you count Canton and Morrisville, there are seven SUNY schools with women's hockey.)Russell Jaslow
[Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
U.S. College Hockey Online
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Originally posted by Scott_TG View Postthey can get one more SUNYAC school to start a women's team (looking at Geneseo, Fredonia and Brockport).
Granted, Brockport has four women's only sports (field hockey, gymnastics, tennis, and volleyball), and apparently that has been enough to offset the three men's only sports (football, wrestling, ice hockey). But, one does wonder how those numbers really work out.
[This of course does not take into consideration of the budget, which is certainly not a consideration to be taken lightly.]Russell Jaslow
[Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
U.S. College Hockey Online
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Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View PostYes, but I can't say.
And I agree.
(BTW, if you count Canton and Morrisville, there are seven SUNY schools with women's hockey.)
Last bylaws I read [granted probably out of date by now] they have to offer a championship if 60% of full members compete in a sport, but since Canton and Morrisville aren't full SUNYAC members they don't count for that.Last edited by Scott_TG; 10-31-2016, 02:28 PM.
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Originally posted by Scott_TG View PostThere's nothing you can share that won't doxx your source? Is it a viability concern? Someone didn't shake hands the right way in a meeting?
Last bylaws I read [granted probably out of date by now] they have to offer a championship if 60% of full members compete in a sport, but since Canton and Morrisville aren't full SUNYAC members they don't count for that.
I don't know where you saw the 60% rule. I've never seen it. All I have ever seen in the past was six teams is the minimum to sponsor a sport, but that was before the current D3 rule was enacted. I was told the conference upped the minimum to seven, for obvious reasons. You don't want to force teams to be in a conference without an AQ.Russell Jaslow
[Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
U.S. College Hockey Online
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Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View PostI don't know where you saw the 60% rule. I've never seen it. All I have ever seen in the past was six teams is the minimum to sponsor a sport, but that was before the current D3 rule was enacted. I was told the conference upped the minimum to seven, for obvious reasons. You don't want to force teams to be in a conference without an AQ.
Article II - Sports Competition
Section 1.
All sponsored competition shall function under the administrative control provided
by the Constitution, Bylaws and Operating Codes of the Conference.
Section 2.
A sport may be designated for Conference competition when at least 60% of the
member institutions sponsor teams in that sport. Any Championship presently
conducted that receives an automatic NCAA Qualifying Bid will be maintained
regardless of the number of institutions, which sponsor the sport. However, in the
event of extenuating circumstances in any particular sport, above may be waived by
consent of the IVR.
When creating a new varsity sport or elevating a club sport to varsity status, an
institution may elect to waive their participation in Conference or tournament type
competition for a maximum of three academic years. The institution must notify the
Conference by the May Annual Meeting of the academic year prior to entering
Conference competition. In individual type sport competition the team can
participate in the Conference Championship the first year of competition, if the
institution so desires.
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