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Thiessen'sBetter
10-30-2016, 11:08 AM
So by these reactions I can only assume you're talking about 12, 21 or 8.

Edit: NU hockey just posted the pre-game locker room picture on Twitter. I saw 8 and 12, I did not see 21.

TheRevengeance
10-30-2016, 11:34 AM
Picture in question. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBzVuNXgAQumNi.jpg:large

If you look on the far right, Cockerill has an A on his jersey as well.

NU_Husky
10-30-2016, 12:03 PM
It appears Revengeance was right. Lines are out. Good news is Jozefek is back. Bad news is both Stevens boys are out.

Filipe-ZAR-Griffin
Sikura-Gaudette-Jozefek
Lerario-Collier-Kurker
Jamieson-Pond-Rosenthal

No changes to the defense

TheRevengeance
10-30-2016, 12:04 PM
21 is who I was referring to, I assume it's who gr8 was referring to as well. Hopefully he's back sooner rather than later, because I'd dread playing BU with neither Stevens.

Gr8Sk8M8
10-30-2016, 01:58 PM
21 is who I was referring to, I assume it's who gr8 was referring to as well. Hopefully he's back sooner rather than later, because I'd dread playing BU with neither Stevens.

Don't count on him sooner.

Tilldog40
10-30-2016, 04:24 PM
Just caught the last period. Cockeril played horrible.

NU_Husky
10-30-2016, 04:31 PM
Just caught the last period. Cockeril played horrible.

This was a BAD loss. Cockerill played terrible, and still gets too much ice time. Collier missed a wide open 2-on-1 after being fed perfectly by Kurker that could have tied it. Ruck lets in 2 soft goals, didn't see the third but sounds like it was a scrum goal. Season low in SOG and had difficulties breaking out of their own zone.

This was the game we needed to secure points in, going into BU/ND/PC/BC the next 8 games. Didn't happen. Couple with the injury news, and this is a bad, bad week.

Put me in the panic boat

UVM Cat in Texas
10-30-2016, 05:08 PM
Ruck lets in 2 soft goals, didn't see the third but sounds like it was a scrum goal. Season low in SOG and had difficulties breaking out of their own zone.
Actually not a scrum goal. Craig Puffer on a partial break down the side, beat Ruck 5-hole.

northeastern
10-30-2016, 05:23 PM
Actually not a scrum goal. Craig Puffer on a partial break down the side, beat Ruck 5-hole.

Nice 'W' UVM. Got our work cut out.. & that's exactly where if you are a good team.. you find out. No panic here yet.. not after last yr.

Thiessen'sBetter
10-30-2016, 05:56 PM
Actually not a scrum goal. Craig Puffer on a partial break down the side, beat Ruck 5-hole.

Cockerill had position on Puffer, got torched, and Ruck gave up a softie. Really bad sequence, but pretty typical for Cockerill today. Frustrating game, scored two highlight reel goals on the first three shots and then Lekkas was solid, and made an unbelievable save point-black on Williams halfway through the 3rd. I don't know if I've ever seen a team send out that many different line combos in one game. I know it's tough with the Stevens brothers both out, but there wasn't much chemistry or consistency out there. I was really hoping to see Griffin and Filipe pick their games up with 18 and 21 out but unfortunately that didn't happen. Hopefully a full barn can propel them to a win on Friday night.

Split-N
10-30-2016, 06:10 PM
So what, exactly, is an "upper body injury?" Seems to me that could include anything from a clogged hair follicle to a swollen belly button and all manner or fractures, sprains, strains, contusions, dislocations, and lacerations in between. Is there something in HIPAA that prohibits getting any more specific? Honest question.

NU_Husky
10-30-2016, 06:52 PM
Actually not a scrum goal. Craig Puffer on a partial break down the side, beat Ruck 5-hole.

Mistyped that, meant to say the second sounded like a scrum goal. Saw the third, definitely was a soft 5 hole.

CTcatamount
10-30-2016, 07:19 PM
First goal was the scrum goal.

Second (I couldn't really see) and third may have been soft but the D got beat badly on both and then it was a 1v1. I understand your frustration though... would expect to have seen a save on on of the two.

Your second was one of the best individual goals I've seen in a long time. Sikora (I think) beat the whole team on that one. Think you're right to stay calm and ride out the injuries, you guys are a talented team.

Thiessen'sBetter
10-30-2016, 07:33 PM
It looked like 20-30 seconds before UVM scored their 2nd goal they were close to being offside entering the zone. Is this reviewable in non-TV college hockey games? I'm certainly alright with it not being reviewable since it's gotten ridiculous in the NHL and there was a lot of time between the zone entry and the goal but just curious.

RossiRules
10-30-2016, 08:54 PM
Ok I have seen 5 games and the results are fair at best. Although it was kind of a trap game against a good VT team after two vs. a bad AZ team, the reality is that even though the D got beat the 1 and 3 goals were kind of soft, the goal at Bentley was also soft as were a few last week. This team will not be good enough to overcome any soft goals against the metal of the league and if RUCK does not play better we are going to be in the middle of the pack, which is reality may be exactly where we belong.

Not getting a HE point at home after having a lead for most of this game was a huge let down. Next week against a superior BU team we will need to play a lot better or we won't come away with any points. We have perhaps 2 or 3 of the most talented players in the league in ZAR, Sikura and A.G. but they are playing like this is Mite hockey, trying to go end to end. I smell a typical NU HE start. Without one Stevens brother we will struggle but missing both for the 1st time since 2013 is hurting in a big way. Not sure how long they will be out but some of the kids called up were not ready for prime time tonight and Cockerill got burnt more than all of the voters in MA who are voting "Yes on 4!" this Tuesday.

HHound
10-30-2016, 09:45 PM
Cockerill had position on Puffer, got torched, and Ruck gave up a softie. Really bad sequence, but pretty typical for Cockerill today. Frustrating game, scored two highlight reel goals on the first three shots and then Lekkas was solid, and made an unbelievable save point-black on Williams halfway through the 3rd. .

I agree that Lekkas played well, but a review of the game tape will show that we missed some terrific setups (Collier from Kurker as an example). Some games are like that! Also Lekkas' save on Williams was as bit of showboating on the goalie's part. The puck was shot directly into his glove and would have missed the net. After he had the puck, then he moved his glove and tumbled forward and rolled around.
I thought the game was full of exciting plays by both teams, and I was mentally prepared for a tie when Ruck gave up the winner. Our next 8 games are against ranked HEA opponents. We should all send get well cards to the Steven brothers!:)

Gr8Sk8M8
10-31-2016, 07:40 AM
So what, exactly, is an "upper body injury?" Seems to me that could include anything from a clogged hair follicle to a swollen belly button and all manner or fractures, sprains, strains, contusions, dislocations, and lacerations in between. Is there something in HIPAA that prohibits getting any more specific? Honest question.

The head was not involved...so...between his naval and his neck...he is no longer on campus...that should help you out a bit...

Gr8Sk8M8
10-31-2016, 07:50 AM
Mistyped that, meant to say the second sounded like a scrum goal. Saw the third, definitely was a soft 5 hole.

I thought that all three goals were soft. I stated yesterday, pregame, that Ruck and the Defense *cough*CockerillOwens*cough* had to step up. They all failed miserably. Yes, Ruck made some saves but he did not save the ones that he should have saved. On two of those goals he was just too deep in the net. He's left out to dry far too often by D, upperclassmen at that, who don't understand the concept of gap control. Were I MadDog, I'd take a long hard look at Jason Smith and maybe spell him a bit. His pedigree for D1 hockey is laughable and it is in games such as yesterday where that liability rears its ugly head.

I would not have had Cockerill on the ice for the 6 on 5...he wouldn't know a passing lane if it threw a birthday party with 4th of July fireworks...the way he gave away the puck at the end? Come on...

Gr8Sk8M8
10-31-2016, 08:07 AM
Ok We have perhaps 2 or 3 of the most talented players in the league in ZAR, Sikura and A.G. but they are playing like this is Mite hockey, trying to go end to end. I smell a typical NU HE start. Without one Stevens brother we will struggle but missing both for the 1st time since 2013 is hurting in a big way. Not sure how long they will be out but some of the kids called up were not ready for prime time tonight and Cockerill got burnt more than all of the voters in MA who are voting "Yes on 4!" this Tuesday.

I thought that ZAR tried very hard to get the puck to his linemates and that he kept his game relatively simple. He seemed to be chasing the puck at times but I really thought that Filipe would step up his physical game and was a bit disappointed that he didn't.

It's very easy to second guess losses but I really believe a lot of this loss is behind the bench. When you're down players you cannot set lines and then ride them. Later in 3rd he did start to mix a bit but I would have done that from the start - third shift throw Gaudette between ZAR and Flipe...throw ZAR on the wing with Gaudette and Sikura...put Gaudette on the wing with Collier and Kurker...move Sikura up with ZAR and Griffin...every third or fourth shift throw a mix and match out there and try to throw the other coach off balance. As it was, Snedden was able to match his lines and that was that. When your bench is different your approach to the game has to be different.

Thiessen'sBetter
10-31-2016, 10:20 AM
I don't know how you saw JM "riding lines", it was names out of a hat all night. Jozy was listed as the wing with 8 and 9 and I think he had 4 or 5 shifts with them all game. Pond was the only guy winning faceoffs so he was up and down the lineup. At one point it was Pond, Collier and ZAR. Lerario was also rotated pretty freely. Again I understand what JM was doing, but I thought the lack of consistency led to some sloppy play. Can't wait to get guys back so Jamieson and Rosenthal don't have to play.