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schiegs
06-14-2016, 11:51 AM
Sorry if this is a redux, but I didn't see a thread dedicated to it.

With the announcement of Las Vegas being the next NHL expansion city, that should add momentum to some of the talk of UNLV going varsity. A simple Google search yields a few articles, here's one;

http://news3lv.com/sports/content/unlv-club-hockey-pursues-division-one-dreams

Post your baseless speculation here.

JohnsonsJerseys
06-14-2016, 12:11 PM
Well if the city can find $500M for the NHL expansion fee, what's another $100M for a college team?
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Scarlet
06-14-2016, 12:22 PM
Sorry if this is a redux, but I didn't see a thread dedicated to it.

With the announcement of Las Vegas being the next NHL expansion city, that should add momentum to some of the talk of UNLV going varsity. A simple Google search yields a few articles, here's one;

http://news3lv.com/sports/content/unlv-club-hockey-pursues-division-one-dreams

Post your baseless speculation here.

Probably because it would be in the NHL thread in the Café. But I checked, and no one's talking about it there yet so OK then.

I was in Las Vegas last week and saw the new arena. It's right on the strip...well, behind New York New Yor and the Monte Carlo. It's big. And it went up real fast because when I was there in January 2014 I didn't even notice a hole in the ground. Talked with a cab driver about maybe getting an NHL team there. He was all for it. And as I was spending time in and out of hotels/casinos, I thought "How awesome would a Frozen Four here be?" I'd go.

joecct
06-14-2016, 12:38 PM
Probably because it would be in the NHL thread in the Café. But I checked, and no one's talking about it there yet so OK then.

I was in Las Vegas last week and saw the new arena. It's right on the strip...well, behind New York New Yor and the Monte Carlo. It's big. And it went up real fast because when I was there in January 2014 I didn't even notice a hole in the ground. Talked with a cab driver about maybe getting an NHL team there. He was all for it. And as I was spending time in and out of hotels/casinos, I thought "How awesome would a Frozen Four here be?" I'd go.

But the NCAA would never go because of the immorality associated with Vegas (and I typed that with a straight face).

Chuck Murray
06-14-2016, 09:21 PM
If the NHL can consider expanding into Vegas (hey - did the folks up in Quebec pizz off Bettman, or what? :confused: ), then there's no reason Bentley can't posture themselves for admission into HEA within the next 5-10 years.

brassbonanza
06-14-2016, 09:36 PM
If the NHL can consider expanding into Vegas (hey - did the folks up in Quebec pizz off Bettman, or what? :confused: ), then there's no reason Bentley can't posture themselves for admission into HEA within the next 5-10 years.

Seems the weak Canadian Dollar was the primary reason for tabling Quebec for now.

And Las Vegas would be a very, very interesting place for a FF. Hosting the teams/fans in the CityCenter complex next door to the arena would provide for a very condensed and "focused on the event" atmosphere that many here always complain about. Hey maybe the winner would get their fight song blared along with the Bellagio fountains.

Almington
06-14-2016, 09:52 PM
But the NCAA would never go because of the immorality associated with Vegas (and I typed that with a straight face).

If UW can be the host in Tampa, they can be he host in Las Vegas too.

J.D.
06-14-2016, 10:38 PM
Nick roberto would love to transfer

davyd83
06-15-2016, 07:31 AM
If the NHL can consider expanding into Vegas (hey - did the folks up in Quebec pizz off Bettman, or what? :confused: ), then there's no reason Bentley can't posture themselves for admission into HEA within the next 5-10 years.

How about a weak Canadian dollar and the NHL looking for a western location are more likely reasons that Quebec doesn't make the cut.

Chuck Murray
06-15-2016, 08:37 AM
How about a weak Canadian dollar and the NHL looking for a western location are more likely reasons that Quebec doesn't make the cut.

One less logical escape route for the Arizona/Phoenix cluster that hasn't quite panned out to date. Plus why not Seattle instead of Vegas? But I suppose the NHL has been making goo-goo eyes at Vegas since they started hosting their season-ending awards there years ago.

It's just disappointing to see Quebec still sitting on the sidelines 20 years later. Think about it - what's the difference between Quebec and Cleveland (from a sporting viewpoint) ... both lost their flagship sports franchises despite strong fan support, but primarily because they were in outdated facilities ... both franchises went on to win their sport's championships in their new cities relatively quickly ... yet the NFL rectified the Cleveland situation fairly quickly with another team, but Quebec is still waiting.

Makes you wonder if Quebec's status as a Francophone city has made it *easier* to overlook them? Let's face it, Winnipeg (Anglo) was always getting more mainstream press about getting their NHL team back after it left under similarly dicey circumstances. Heck, there is more mainstream (Anglo) press about Hartford returning to the NHL than Quebec. Think about that for a second ...


Nick roberto would love to transfer

There's the line of the day/month/year that I wish I'd thought of first ... :( :D

AMC
06-15-2016, 08:58 AM
Plus why not Seattle instead of Vegas?

No arena.

brassbonanza
06-15-2016, 09:22 AM
Quebec didn't get one because of conference balancing and the Canadian dollar, simple as that. Not to mention I think the NHL is going to wait and see what happens with Karmanos' (that piece of sh!!t) lawsuit from his sons and his sale of the team. I wouldn't be shocked to eventually see the Hurricanes move up there.

Patman
06-15-2016, 09:41 AM
Quebec didn't get one because of conference balancing and the Canadian dollar, simple as that. Not to mention I think the NHL is going to wait and see what happens with Karmanos' (that piece of sh!!t) lawsuit from his sons and his sale of the team. I wouldn't be shocked to eventually see the Hurricanes move up there.

The conference balancing stuff is a nonsense argument as the NHL induced that on itself and when we're talking half a billion or more it becomes a non issue quick.

I think the Canadian dollar is the bigger impact and that the NHL still has the long term view that a market of suitable size can be spun to gold as long as you wait long enough.

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As for the NCAA... That operates on a different clock and has nothing to do with gambling. It's not like the NCAA can stop a UNLV from doing something. They already play basketball (long live the Tark)

joecct
06-15-2016, 09:54 AM
100,000 Canadians are worth more in HRR than 70,000 Americans.

A Shot and a Goal
06-15-2016, 10:00 AM
The UNLV Skating Rebels?

TigerFan86-87
06-15-2016, 12:07 PM
As for the NCAA... That operates on a different clock and has nothing to do with gambling. It's not like the NCAA can stop a UNLV from doing something. They already play basketball (long live the Tark)
This is true. UNLV can do what they wish.
The NCAA will, however, never hold the FF (or any other of their events, for that matter) there until their policy about legalized gambling changes. It might change in the future, especially when they see the $$ potential in a place like Vegas. Heck, the alcohol policies around NCAA events keep getting less and less restrictive. It won't be long before we'll see beer in the FF arenas. Maybe the gambling restriction is next.

Snively65
06-15-2016, 09:51 PM
One less logical escape route for the Arizona/Phoenix cluster that hasn't quite panned out to date. Plus why not Seattle instead of Vegas? But I suppose the NHL has been making goo-goo eyes at Vegas since they started hosting their season-ending awards there years ago.

It's just disappointing to see Quebec still sitting on the sidelines 20 years later. Think about it - what's the difference between Quebec and Cleveland (from a sporting viewpoint) ... both lost their flagship sports franchises despite strong fan support, but primarily because they were in outdated facilities ... both franchises went on to win their sport's championships in their new cities relatively quickly ... yet the NFL rectified the Cleveland situation fairly quickly with another team, but Quebec is still waiting.

Makes you wonder if Quebec's status as a Francophone city has made it *easier* to overlook them? Let's face it, Winnipeg (Anglo) was always getting more mainstream press about getting their NHL team back after it left under similarly dicey circumstances. Heck, there is more mainstream (Anglo) press about Hartford returning to the NHL than Quebec. Think about that for a minute ... :( :D

AMC is correct about Seattle, I think, as a longtime friend who lives there and worked on the renovation of Key Arena for the Supersonics says the public will not allow any more money to be spent on arenas.

But, I thought that there is now a new ice arena in Quebec City?

omahasioux1
06-15-2016, 11:30 PM
The UNLV Skating Rebels?2 or3 years is what I have been told. Believe it when I see it.

The Sicatoka
06-16-2016, 07:53 AM
How about a weak Canadian dollar and the NHL looking for a western location are more likely reasons that Quebec doesn't make the cut.

The NHL wants to get balanced from 16E/14W to 16E/16W.

Quebec City, or the group that wants a second Toronto franchise, will need to get an eastern team that needs to move (CAR).

The Sicatoka
06-16-2016, 07:56 AM
The NHL wants to get balanced from 16E/14W to 16E/16W, hence Vegas, and maybe Seattle down the road.

Quebec City, or the group that wants a second Toronto franchise, will need to get an eastern team that needs to move (CAR).

Cleveland putting 20k fans into the stands for the LE Monsters (that's a good case for an NHL franchise) may put all that into disarray.