USA Hockey National Championships

[Reggie44]

For the first time Minny has teams other than Shattuck competing at the U19 and U16 Tier 1 level. Looks like 6 teams total with a total of 56 D1 commits on these teams. Curious how this is influx of teams is being received nationally. The teams were put together for the Nationals and the tournament is at the Super Rink in Blaine. Curious if they would have six teams if they had to travel out of state for the tournament?

[brookyone]

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Is Minnesota Revolution one of them?

[Iceburg]

Is Minnesota Revolution one of them?

No, they are teams from the fall high school league that plays at Fogarty Arena in Blaine before the high school season.

[Hockeydad4two]

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Here's the web site for all of the National tournaments:

http://nationals.usahockey.com/2016

[giwan]

For the first time Minny has teams other than Shattuck competing at the U19 and U16 Tier 1 level. Looks like 6 teams total with a total of 56 D1 commits on these teams. Curious how this is influx of teams is being received nationally. The teams were put together for the Nationals and the tournament is at the Super Rink in Blaine. Curious if they would have six teams if they had to travel out of state for the tournament?

Those before/after teams did travel to some early tournaments.

[Reggie44]

Is Minnesota Revolution one of them?

Minnesota Hockey did not give them tier 1 status.

[Rightnut]

For the first time Minny has teams other than Shattuck competing at the U19 and U16 Tier 1 level. Looks like 6 teams total with a total of 56 D1 commits on these teams. Curious how this is influx of teams is being received nationally. The teams were put together for the Nationals and the tournament is at the Super Rink in Blaine. Curious if they would have six teams if they had to travel out of state for the tournament?

I don't think the rest of the country is too happy since the Minnesota teams are running the table.

[Sieve1]

I don't think the rest of the country is too happy since the Minnesota teams are running the table.

Not so fast...Chicago Mission u19 beat MN elite

[D2D]

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I don't think the rest of the country is too happy since the Minnesota teams are running the table.

Not so fast...Chicago Mission u19 beat MN elite

Looks like both of you are right. The three Minnesota "before and after" high school teams were 8-0 before the 'Red' team lost to Chicago Mission 4-1. But as of now the 'Black' team and the 'White' team each remain undefeated.

http://nationals.usahockey.com/page/...rls-tier-i-19u

[PuckRush]

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Let's not get to excited, not because of who is winning and losing, but because USA Hockey Nationals are a complete rip-off for the kids and the parents.

Spend thousands of dollars to fly, drive, stay, eat, etc for 6 or 7 days. To do what? Proclaim a national champion of travel teams? Meaningless.

Who benefits? The host city, USA Hockey and the paid travel coaches. It's a money grab at it's finest. Those who say that it's great for recruiting? Sure, but you have to be on a team that makes it. If you're a great player but your team isn't here, or you are an ineligible player... well, you are SOL as they say.

(now don't dare say that I've got sour grapes for not making it... my kids have "made it" for a dozen years, this year included).

The two thousand dollars per kid average that is spent here could be much better used - ask ANY hockey coach, but not the travel team coaches for whom this is their bread and butter. Plus, kids are missing school for up to a week! (stupid, stupid, stupid)

My fix? Well, if you want to keep Nationals, then fine, keep them. But play 2 shorter games a day. That way players are in and out of here in 3 or 4 days.

[D2D]

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Let's not get to excited, not because of who is winning and losing, but because USA Hockey Nationals are a complete rip-off for the kids and the parents.

Spend thousands of dollars to fly, drive, stay, eat, etc for 6 or 7 days. To do what? Proclaim a national champion of travel teams? Meaningless.

Ironic that NCAA hockey will mess up the quarterfinal tournament bracket just to save the cost of ONE FLIGHT while a dozen or more U19 teams plus the U16 teams will pay to fly to wherever the national tourney is being played. The difference, of course, is who's paying!

[Reggie44]

Ironic that NCAA hockey will mess up the quarterfinal tournament bracket just to save the cost of ONE FLIGHT while a dozen or more U19 teams plus the U16 teams will pay to fly to wherever the national tourney is being played. The difference, of course, is who's paying!

And the NC$$ is printing money off this BB tourney.

[WJHL]

And the NC$$ is printing money off this BB tourney.

The Minnesota elite teams play in two tournaments before joining there high school teams.

The tournaments are ;

1. NAHA Labor Day tournament
2. USA Canada Cup in Detroit

These are both invite only tournaments which NCAA Scouts enjoy these events because it is the only time to evaluate the top Minnesota Players vs Ontario teams.

The USA national tournament is far from the top event during the season.

[joecct]

Let's not get to excited, not because of who is winning and losing, but because USA Hockey Nationals are a complete rip-off for the kids and the parents.

Spend thousands of dollars to fly, drive, stay, eat, etc for 6 or 7 days. To do what? Proclaim a national champion of travel teams? Meaningless.

Who benefits? The host city, USA Hockey and the paid travel coaches. It's a money grab at it's finest. Those who say that it's great for recruiting? Sure, but you have to be on a team that makes it. If you're a great player but your team isn't here, or you are an ineligible player... well, you are SOL as they say.

(now don't dare say that I've got sour grapes for not making it... my kids have "made it" for a dozen years, this year included).

The two thousand dollars per kid average that is spent here could be much better used - ask ANY hockey coach, but not the travel team coaches for whom this is their bread and butter. Plus, kids are missing school for up to a week! (stupid, stupid, stupid)

My fix? Well, if you want to keep Nationals, then fine, keep them. But play 2 shorter games a day. That way players are in and out of here in 3 or 4 days.

Agree 100% on the school comment.

I always thought an 8 team tournament with 3 games in 3 days for all teams. Run it like the MSHSL tourny, but with a 7th place game.

You play unlimited OTs on Day 1 and in the winners bracket. The consolation bracket and 3rd place games play a 5 min ot + shootout to decide the winner.

Thurs - Sat and you fly/drive/bus back on Sunday.

BTW - next year the HS tourny is the week before the youth tourny. For kids that double up, that's 2 straight weeks of missed school. Plus physically and emotionally tired kids.

Does USAH care about academics?

[ne7minder]

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Does USAH care about academics?

Silly person, sports are important, school is just something you do between games and practice. It is much worse on the boys side where nothing matters short of an AHL contract.