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ticapnews
03-28-2016, 09:27 AM
Friday Sat Sunday Total
Worcester 6682 4572 11254
Albany 5326 2975 8301
Cincinnati 5332 5172 10504
St Paul 4926 2799 7725
Total 12014 19996 5774 37784


That was the announced attendance. Actual people in the stands might have been slightly lower (looking at you, St Paul).

Aside from the usual complaints about ticket prices, scheduling is becoming a major issue because the NCAA apparently doesn't know how time works. No reason at all to have a regional final start at 9:00 on a Saturday night. No reason for the West regional final to be in the afternoon and then the East regional scheduled at night. It would make far more sense to have the East final followed by the West. I know it isn't easy but it also isn't rocket science. Those Sunday numbers are absolutely horrible.

A slight modification would allow easier scheduling for fans and teams - and make a much better television experience on Saturday.

(all times eastern)
Friday
Worcester Game 1: 4PM
Cincinnati Game 1: 5PM
Worcester Game 2: 7PM
Cincinnati Game 2: 8PM

Saturday:
Albany Game 1: Noon
St Paul Game 1: 2:30PM
Albany Game 2: 3PM
St Paul Game 2: 5:30PM
Worcester Game 3: 6PM
Cincinnati Game 3: 8PM

Sunday
Albany Game 3: 4PM
St Paul Game 3: 7PM

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 09:33 AM
Friday Sat Sunday Total
Worcester 6682 4572 11254
Albany 5326 2975 8301
Cincinnati 5332 5172 10504
St Paul 4926 2799 7725
Total 12014 19996 5774 37784


That was the announced attendance. Actual people in the stands might have been slightly lower (looking at you, St Paul).

Aside from the usual complaints about ticket prices, scheduling is becoming a major issue because the NCAA apparently doesn't know how time works. No reason at all to have a regional final start at 9:00 on a Saturday night. No reason for the West regional final to be in the afternoon and then the East regional scheduled at night. It would make far more sense to have the East final followed by the West. I know it isn't easy but it also isn't rocket science. Those Sunday numbers are absolutely horrible.

A slight modification would allow easier scheduling for fans and teams - and make a much better television experience on Saturday.

(all times eastern)
Friday
Worcester Game 1: 4PM
Cincinnati Game 1: 5PM
Worcester Game 2: 7PM
Cincinnati Game 2: 8PM

Saturday:
Albany Game 1: Noon
St Paul Game 1: 2:30PM
Albany Game 2: 3PM
St Paul Game 2: 5:30PM
Worcester Game 3: 6PM
Cincinnati Game 3: 8PM

Sunday
Albany Game 3: 4PM
St Paul Game 3: 7PM

I dont understand how people can complain about ticket prices....80 bucks for 3 games of hockey is so cheap. Go to an nhl game and one game for the ticket alone will cost you at least a 100. I really felt like it was a great deal for the money. I even ran into a dad and son who was at the NE regional friday and saturday then made it to albany for sunday night final.

Now for the times that was something you can complain about. And also at least in Albany the Times union center could have told local businesses there was a big event coming in for the weekend. On saturday people were out and about. All 4 schools were represented well esp Lowell. Fans were great. But yesterday a lot of business were closed due to the fact that it was easter and the arena never told them about the hockey event so the employees were allowed to have off for the holiday. The party at the Pearl St. Pub was great.

Nick Papagiorgio
03-28-2016, 09:36 AM
Game times have been a problem for some time now especially with these eastern regional finals and to be honest I don't know how someone cannot figure this out. 9 pm on Saturday night --> I skipped my first Worcester regional game in 18 years. Prices are too high, game times suck.

As you outline, it's not too difficult to figure out how a clock works, how time zones work, and how it is better for both tv and crowds in the arena for someone running the show to gain an understanding of the concept of time.

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 09:39 AM
Game times have been a problem for some time now especially with these eastern regional finals and to be honest I don't know how someone cannot figure this out. 9 pm on Saturday night --> I skipped my first Worcester regional game in 18 years. Prices are too high, game times suck.

As you outline, it's not too difficult to figure out how a clock works, how time zones work, and how it is better for both tv and crowds in the arena for someone running the show to gain an understanding of the concept of time.

Again how are prices too high??

Nick Papagiorgio
03-28-2016, 09:39 AM
I dont understand how people can complain about ticket prices....80 bucks for 3 games of hockey is so cheap. Go to an nhl game and one game for the ticket alone will cost you at least a 100. I really felt like it was a great deal for the money. I even ran into a dad and son who was at the NE regional friday and saturday then made it to albany for sunday night final.

First night is a good value with 2 games. Second night is too expensive IMO for one game.

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 09:40 AM
First night is a good value with 2 games. Second night is too expensive IMO for one game.

If you go to an NHL game itll cost you over 100 bucks for one game. They were asking for 45 bucks. I dont see anything wrong with that at all. Its so cheap i wish every game was 40 bucks

SJHovey
03-28-2016, 09:44 AM
Just my two cents.

The current regional format does not produce people in the stands. The primary cause, imho, is the fact that all the games are broadcast live on tv, or streamed by espn. Why would I get in my car and drive 12 hours to Cincinnati to see UND play when I can watch them from the comfort of my living room, and possibly save for a trip to the Frozen Four, or if not, then next year's Frozen Faceoff in Minneapolis?

We in the college hockey world have a choice. We can go back to on campus games. I don't think on campus "regionals" is the solution given the small size of the home arenas that would end up hosting some regionals. Instead, back to the old method of the higher seed hosting. We have the extra week available due to bounceyball, so the first weekend we play down to eight and the second down to four.

There would be no tv under this format. ESPN isn't going to send teams out to eight different arenas, and there would be too many games anyway. But, we'd have great "atmosphere" in the arenas themselves.

Or, we keep going as is with the knowledge that at least as of now, we all get to see all the games (played, albeit, in mausoleums).

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 09:50 AM
Just my two cents.

The current regional format does not produce people in the stands. The primary cause, imho, is the fact that all the games are broadcast live on tv, or streamed by espn. Why would I get in my car and drive 12 hours to Cincinnati to see UND play when I can watch them from the comfort of my living room, and possibly save for a trip to the Frozen Four, or if not, then next year's Frozen Faceoff in Minneapolis?

We in the college hockey world have a choice. We can go back to on campus games. I don't think on campus "regionals" is the solution given the small size of the home arenas that would end up hosting some regionals. Instead, back to the old method of the higher seed hosting. We have the extra week available due to bounceyball, so the first weekend we play down to eight and the second down to four.

There would be no tv under this format. ESPN isn't going to send teams out to eight different arenas, and there would be too many games anyway. But, we'd have great "atmosphere" in the arenas themselves.

Or, we keep going as is with the knowledge that at least as of now, we all get to see all the games (played, albeit, in mausoleums).

By that logic why do people go to games at all? every football game is on tv so why do people go to games? you can sit in the comfort of your living room and watch every game possible today. For some sports its about being there and being in albany all weekend was worth it. Idk about the rest of the regionals. I guess seeing Denver destroy BU 7-2 isnt worth the trip or ND beating NU 6-2.

ticapnews
03-28-2016, 09:50 AM
Again how are prices too high??
You aren't competing with NHL though. You are playing in AHL arenas. AHL teams offer family packs, discounts, merchandise, food...all kinds of promotions. The NCAA can't (or won't) do that. As a result it is much cheaper to attend twice as many AHL games as to attend the three regional games. Add in the fact that next week the AHL team will still be in town so your kids have a chance to get used to seeing them around but you'll probably never see the NCAA kids again and the AHL team has more promise. However, even taking into account that this is a premium event so prices are going to be higher, it's still unforgivable that they charge the exact same price for a seat on the glass as for a seat at the top of the balcony. It isn't that difficult to implement price zones so a guy can take his kids, sit in the upper bowl and not have it cost an arm and a leg. Charge a premium for seats on the glass and charge substantially less for seats in the upper bowl. Those seats will sell instead of going unused. The NCAA claims to care about the atmosphere at regionals. There are ways to fix it without taking the games back to campus.

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 09:55 AM
You aren't competing with NHL though. You are playing in AHL arenas. AHL teams offer family packs, discounts, merchandise, food...all kinds of promotions. The NCAA can't (or won't) do that. As a result it is much cheaper to attend twice as many AHL games as to attend the three regional games. Add in the fact that next week the AHL team will still be in town so your kids have a chance to get used to seeing them around but you'll probably never see the NCAA kids again and the AHL team has more promise. However, even taking into account that this is a premium event so prices are going to be higher, it's still unforgivable that they charge the exact same price for a seat on the glass as for a seat at the top of the balcony. It isn't that difficult to implement price zones so a guy can take his kids, sit in the upper bowl and not have it cost an arm and a leg. Charge a premium for seats on the glass and charge substantially less for seats in the upper bowl. Those seats will sell instead of going unused. The NCAA claims to care about the atmosphere at regionals. There are ways to fix it without taking the games back to campus.

I just looked it up for the Albany Devils the AHL affiliate of the Devils obv charge btw 10-30 dollars a ticket. I agree with your point that not every seat should be the same amount but they do the same thing in college basketball for the regionals. I paid 100 bucks at the Prudential Center to see UNC vs Kentucky and every seat in the house was 100 bucks. If you and your son paid 100 bucks for the weekend thats still not a big deal. Idk maybe im just used to paying a lot more money for sporting events. Why wont you see a NCAA kid again. Im sure some of them play at the AHL level.

ticapnews
03-28-2016, 09:59 AM
By that logic why do people go to games at all? every football game is on tv so why do people go to games? you can sit in the comfort of your living room and watch every game possible today.

This is something the NFL is constantly battling. They are increasing their promotions, fixing up some nice amenities and doing whatever they can to enhance the game day experience because they are scared to death people will stop paying those insane seat licensing fees, paying for preseason exhibition games and paying for seats so high you can't possibly see what is happening on the field without watching on the Jumbotron. Games have been televised for decades, but now you have home theaters with huge TV screens that make watching the game from home much more appealing.

St. Clown
03-28-2016, 10:01 AM
I just looked it up for the Albany Devils the AHL affiliate of the Devils obv charge btw 10-30 dollars a ticket. I agree with your point that not every seat should be the same amount but they do the same thing in college basketball for the regionals. I paid 100 bucks at the Prudential Center to see UNC vs Kentucky and every seat in the house was 100 bucks. If you and your son paid 100 bucks for the weekend thats still not a big deal. Idk maybe im just used to paying a lot more money for sporting events. Why wont you see a NCAA kid again. Im sure some of them play at the AHL level.
It's not a big deal TO YOU. It is a big deal to others. SCSU home tickets have a range that top out at $35, the regional tickets at the X were $52.50 face value. For those who attended UND, that's an increase in the price of a ticket for the average SCSU consumer. Add in the extra travel distance, parking costs, etc. and you're losing people who are already at the margins with the ticket prices alone.

ticapnews
03-28-2016, 10:02 AM
I just looked it up for the Albany Devils the AHL affiliate of the Devils obv charge btw 10-30 dollars a ticket. I agree with your point that not every seat should be the same amount but they do the same thing in college basketball for the regionals. I paid 100 bucks at the Prudential Center to see UNC vs Kentucky and every seat in the house was 100 bucks. If you and your son paid 100 bucks for the weekend thats still not a big deal. Idk maybe im just used to paying a lot more money for sporting events. Why wont you see a NCAA kid again. Im sure some of them play at the AHL level.

If I live in Worcester and see the UMD Bulldogs it is a million to 1 they ever come back. Local teams maybe, but even if UMD plays a series at BC, they're going to play in Newton - not Worcester.

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 10:04 AM
This is something the NFL is constantly battling. They are increasing their promotions, fixing up some nice amenities and doing whatever they can to enhance the game day experience because they are scared to death people will stop paying those insane seat licensing fees, paying for preseason exhibition games and paying for seats so high you can't possibly see what is happening on the field without watching on the Jumbotron. Games have been televised for decades, but now you have home theaters with huge TV screens that make watching the game from home much more appealing.

Yes i agree with you completely. They are even updating people on your fantasy team in the stadiums as well. I know Jacksonville was thinking of showing the red zone channel on a screen in the stadium as a way for you to watch your fantasy team as you watched the live jaguar game your at. The prices at least here in NY are crazy expensive and i have only been lucky enough to go to 2 NFL games one in NY years ago and i just went to one in Tennessee. Paid 40 bucks for a ticket for the titans. So that was pretty neat. I am one of those that most of the time i stay home and watch the game on tv. I was able to get to Georgia for a Georgia vs Auburn game last year which was awesome. But in terms of the NFL they will always win. They will always have at least 30k in the stands every weekend.

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 10:06 AM
If I live in Worcester and see the UMD Bulldogs it is a million to 1 they ever come back. Local teams maybe, but even if UMD plays a series at BC, they're going to play in Newton - not Worcester.

So how far is the trip from Worcester to Newton? Idk so im asking. But what im saying is the kids get drafted and get assigned to an AHL team they very well may come to your area no?

The Zlax45
03-28-2016, 10:06 AM
It's not a big deal TO YOU. It is a big deal to others. SCSU home tickets have a range that top out at $35, the regional tickets at the X were $52.50 face value. For those who attended UND, that's an increase in the price of a ticket for the average SCSU consumer. Add in the extra travel distance, parking costs, etc. and you're losing people who are already at the margins with the ticket prices alone.

It is less than 15 dollars a game to have season tixs at PC and they brought fans with the 85 dollar tickets. Plus Worcester is an awful facility for hockey with terrible sightlines.

ColSkate65
03-28-2016, 10:06 AM
Idk maybe im just used to paying a lot more money for sporting events.

Duh. Can't compare these games to NHL games. NHL is the highest caliber of ice hockey. These are great contests but not on a par with what you'll see at an NHL game. Prices should be much lower IMHO. Some people have deeper pockets I guess ;)

All I know is I saw a lot of empty seats at every venue.

The Zlax45
03-28-2016, 10:08 AM
If I live in Worcester and see the UMD Bulldogs it is a million to 1 they ever come back. Local teams maybe, but even if UMD plays a series at BC, they're going to play in Newton - not Worcester.

This was the second straight year I saw UMD as I went to Manchester last year and I also saw UMD go into PC a few years ago. Guess, I am just that 4 million to one shot.

45 mins from Newton to Worcester. BC just doesn't bring fans

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 10:08 AM
Duh. Can't compare these games to NHL games. NHL is the highest caliber of ice hockey. These are great contests but not on a par with what you'll see at an NHL game. Prices should be much lower IMHO. Some people have deeper pockets I guess ;)

All I know is I saw a lot of empty seats at every venue.

Yep Albany was half empty but then again Easter weekend. People are home or on vacations. So what should i compare this too. I go to West Point hockey gonna cost me 20 bucks a ticket. So if i went to 3 games of there im 60 bucks in. I just paid 80 to see some of the best teams in hockey including the #1 team in the country

fightingsiouxfan16
03-28-2016, 10:10 AM
It's not a big deal TO YOU. It is a big deal to others. SCSU home tickets have a range that top out at $35, the regional tickets at the X were $52.50 face value. For those who attended UND, that's an increase in the price of a ticket for the average SCSU consumer. Add in the extra travel distance, parking costs, etc. and you're losing people who are already at the margins with the ticket prices alone.

52 dollars a session or for the whole weekend??