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Gurtholfin
03-22-2016, 01:48 PM
One of the common assumptions in previous threads was that a new coach would invigorate the masses and bring people back to the KC in swarms.


No... no one said that.

In fact, many warned that the damage done over the last few years will likely never be repaired completely or at best, will take many years to fix.


Nice try.

Gurtholfin
03-22-2016, 01:49 PM
Mac, that is ****ing awesome.


I agree.

His photoshop skills have greatly improved.

Well done.

RedStripes
03-22-2016, 01:50 PM
Wow, it is great to see so much positivity in a UW thread.

A quick question to those of you who had stopped getting tickets; how does this impact you?

Are you already planning on coming back to what you had before? Coming back for one night to start? Getting some single game tickets to take a look?

One of the common assumptions in previous threads was that a new coach would invigorate the masses and bring people back to the KC in swarms. I'm curious to see how many of you are willing to walk the walk now.

Or is everyone now switching to BA as the reason they can't support UW Athletics in general?

I don't quite fit the question because I had not yet dropped my tickets. But I can say that without this change, I was planning to drop. I will now keep my tickets unless there is a really bad hire. Most of the names being bandied about would be enough to keep me driving to Madison next fall.

MadCityRich
03-22-2016, 01:51 PM
I was thinking that Oz with Granato as assistant or associate would "knock my socks off."

I believe your concern could be valid though.

That would give me a boner.

WiscTJK
03-22-2016, 01:58 PM
Wow - kind of an abrasive post, isn't it. Are you still hurt that Eaves is gone? But hey, I will bite.


Wow, it is great to see so much positivity in a UW thread.

A quick question to those of you who had stopped getting tickets; how does this impact you?

Are you already planning on coming back to what you had before? Coming back for one night to start? Getting some single game tickets to take a look? I am willing to keep my Saturday seats for now. However, I won't go back to Friday seats for now (dropped them this year)

One of the common assumptions in previous threads was that a new coach would invigorate the masses and bring people back to the KC in swarms. I'm curious to see how many of you are willing to walk the walk now. I don't think it is fair to say in swarms, but people will come back when the team is more competitive.

Or is everyone now switching to BA as the reason they can't support UW Athletics in general?

Wisko McBadgerton
03-22-2016, 02:17 PM
Mac, that is ****ing awesome.

Thanks, I agree, but that is because it's 99.99% EODS. I just colored in between the lines.

Gurtholfin
03-22-2016, 02:23 PM
KaMiGo is obviously related to Eaves or met him at a camp - which was the greatest thrill of his life - or something.


To answer the question, no, I will probably not buy season tickets as I'm still busy with my kid's high school hockey on a lot of weekend nights through the winter.

In addition, I don't go to any sporting events as much as I did 15 years ago. Used to have football tickets, both nights of hockey and go to several hoops games a year along with 10-ish Brewers games a summer and a Hawks game or 3.

I don't do most of that anymore and go to a football, basketball and hockey game or two each year now. Kinda been there, done that with attending sporting events.


I am more engaged/interested in the team though and will likely be more inclined to attend a few single games next season.

I've always loved following teams on the upswing.

I enjoy watching the step by step process over several seasons.

Wisko McBadgerton
03-22-2016, 02:31 PM
Regardless of who the next coach is, it will take a year or 3 before they can get their players in and implement whatever system they want to run.

If they have to run a defensive system at the outset, so be it.

I'm happy to give them that time.

Oh I agree that they will need time. I think though that unlike a lot of disasters that result in regime change, the next coach here is walking into a team that can possibly win right away, given it holds together and the right moves are made. Goal is a big question and D is thin but there could/should be 4 lines that can score.

Speaking of goalies, Jurusik has ability but needs help. For more wild speculation: CuJo has recently coached goalies in the OHL...

Wisko McBadgerton
03-22-2016, 02:41 PM
Hmmm... Since we're on OZ today I suppose today's Rockford Ice Hog news might be relevant: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-garret-ross-revenge-porn-20160322-story.html

Is it controversial that Ross wasn't suspended after he was charged? It seems to be more common in pro sports these days. (Both getting charged and being suspended.)

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-22-2016, 02:42 PM
Thanks, I agree, but that is because it's 99.99% EODS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWecfzkKiIM

In all seriousness, though, if we do end up really liking the hire, should we celebrate the first home goal of next season by throwing socks on the ice?

I smell a promotional opportunity*, Barry...

* Figuratively. Not because of the socks. Let's hope the socks aren't fresh off of peoples feet...

KaMiGo
03-22-2016, 02:50 PM
How can this be answered until all of the information is in?

Because most of the previous comments that I can recall (I haven't gone through the archives to find any specific statements) were along the lines of "I'm done until they fire Eaves".

Well, now they've fired Eaves. Are those people going to rebound immediately or is there something else keeping them away?

Gurtholfin
03-22-2016, 03:00 PM
Because most of the previous comments that I can recall (I haven't gone through the archives to find any specific statements) were along the lines of "I'm done until they fire Eaves".

Well, now they've fired Eaves. Are those people going to rebound immediately or is there something else keeping them away?


You can't project what these few diehards (comparatively) that post here will do onto the 10k or so lost game attendees.

Wouldn't think that would be so hard to figure out.


Oh yeah, and I see that you've abandoned your assertion that people here said that fans would "swarm" back once Eaves was fired. :rolleyes:

Wisko McBadgerton
03-22-2016, 03:11 PM
Because most of the previous comments that I can recall (I haven't gone through the archives to find any specific statements) were along the lines of "I'm done until they fire Eaves".

Well, now they've fired Eaves. Are those people going to rebound immediately or is there something else keeping them away?

I think you are over simplifying it. Few if any that were sick of Eaves or just thought he was wrong, or whatever, expected him to change. Way past that, and it's not like Eaves was accused of being lazy, he just did what he did. Therefore a lot of blame has fallen on the AD and it's lack of interest (or perceived lack, however you want to put it) in hockey and maintaining it to a certain standard. Until the AD actually announces it's intentions to go forward, few are going to just say everything is coming up roses. Few trust the AD, so they have to earn some of that back. Making a quality hire would be a great start.

markwojo
03-22-2016, 03:20 PM
Oh I agree that they will need time. I think though that unlike a lot of disasters that result in regime change, the next coach here is walking into a team that can possibly win right away, given it holds together and the right moves are made. Goal is a big question and D is thin but there could/should be 4 lines that can score.

Speaking of goalies, Jurusik has ability but needs help. For more wild speculation: CuJo has recently coached goalies in the OHL...

If the new coach can convince Kunin and Besse to stay and Fredrick to come...the team will be pretty deep and good up front. I agree the D is thin and horribly thin by recent Wisconsin standards. A hire like Oz could fairly quickly change the situation on D based on his recruiting and development history of D...Wisconsin would suddenly become extremely attractive with both Oz here and opportunity for a significant role early. Top uncommitted D like JD Greenway (USDP), Alex Stevens (Sioux Falls USHL), and Tyler Jutting (Shuttuks...maybe he don't want to play for dad in Omaha) should become extremely interested in Wisconsin. New guy could also shop the pushed back/development spurt aisle (like Wiercioch going to Denver) or guys committed to schools that don't do scholarships/letters of intent. Find a right dman or two and get some quality coaching and you can shore things up pretty quickly.

And on the can Oz teach someone else to recruit as a head coach isn't as actively involved...I call bull. No reason a head coach can't be very hands on in the life blood of his program and make phone calls, social media interaction, visits, and the rest of what needs to be done in recruiting. It should be all hands on deck when it comes to recruiting...including the head guy.

IndianaBadger1995
03-22-2016, 03:48 PM
What would knock my socks off:

HC - Mark Johnson
AC - Don Granato
AC - Mark Osiecki


One can dream, right? :D

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-22-2016, 03:53 PM
I'd rather keep Badger Jr on the women's side.

WiscTJK
03-22-2016, 03:57 PM
I'd rather keep Badger Jr on the women's side.

Ditto...Mark needs to keep on winning with the lady's. He's got a great thing going....

WiscDC
03-22-2016, 03:59 PM
I'd rather keep Badger Jr on the women's side.

Me too.

markwojo
03-22-2016, 04:08 PM
Agree...not a fan in the least of MJ crossing over to the boys side of things. Decade and a half removed from the mens game and recruiting scene, part of the problem in the end of the Sauer regime, and potential to screw up 2 hockey programs in one fell swoop is not appealing. My hope is when MJ doesn't end up with the job that there is less undertow toward whoever is named coach then there was with Eaves in some circles.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-22-2016, 04:18 PM
And we can be honest with ourselves and admit that we're just being eager little fanboys thinking we can get Oz and Granato on the same staff, right?

I mean... MAYBE Oz is fine with being top assistant again, but presumably Luke Strand is still involved for the time being.