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WiscTJK
03-18-2016, 01:38 PM
Agree with both of you on the UW guys and Mark Johnson. I think going outside the UW crowd could be a good thing.

What about Steve Miller?

Almington
03-18-2016, 01:42 PM
I agree on your list and agree Don Granato an Oz should be the top 2. At this point I'd put Don as the priority. With his track record and now connection with usntdp it's a no-brainer.

Maybe, just maybe Tony Granato could be his assistant. That would be HUGE.

I like Mark Johnson bit agree with your assessment of why he should not be considered.

I hope Don is calling both Barry and Pat Richter right now

Only one Granato on the staff at a time. I don't want to suffer through another staff inexperienced in NCAA roster management (arguably that was Eaves downfall)

Personally, Oz is my choice, particularly if he's willing to keep Strand and Bittner on as assistant coaches.

Badger Booster
03-18-2016, 01:44 PM
I like Mark Johnson bit agree with your assessment of why he should not be considered.

I'll preface this by saying I would like to see Coach Johnson stay with the women's program. However, I don't see why he wouldn't at least be considered for the men's position. If the right assistants were in place, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have success. I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, but he had zero experience coaching women prior to getting that job and they were a national contender within two years.

MadCityRich
03-18-2016, 01:44 PM
And Mark Johnson would not be a good choice. He has been too long away from the Men's game and men's recruiting in my opinion.

Anyone think Strand would be retained?

Absolutely not. A clean sweep is a necessity and I'm sure the incoming coach doesn't want any hangers on. Everybody beeotched when Eaves was retained and Gary Shuchuk and Matt Walsh were whacked. This is my same reasoning. I know they just came on board, but as Tony Soprano once said..."I'm trying to do a little business here". Strand left a pretty good gig with the USHL Capitols.


EDIT: I really like how mark and wojo think (in the Wisconsin camp). But, and this is a big but, wouldn't it be something if Tony has had his fill of the NHL and decided to slow down just a little? 14 years coaching in the NHL and 14 years playing brings a ton of knowledge AND respect.

A fact I had no idea about; Tony's sis Cammi is married to "The Little Ball of Hate" Ray Ferraro! I really didn't know!

Timothy A
03-18-2016, 01:54 PM
No Johnson, keep the gals on top of the world. No need in risking that program. Give MJ a big raise. He deserves it.

I'm not convinced OZ is the right guy. He didn't set OSU in fire in terms of results but he is one heck of a great recruiter for sure.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-18-2016, 02:00 PM
I'd soil myself in joy if we could get Granato with assistants Oz and Strand, but God only knows how many trucks of cash you'd need to make that actually happen.

The good news is that this is a prime job opportunity.

The chance to awaken a sleeping giant, great facilities... I have high hopes for what kind of candidates we might attract.

vizoroo
03-18-2016, 02:17 PM
Agree with both of you on the UW guys and Mark Johnson. I think going outside the UW crowd could be a good thing.

What about Steve Miller?

excellent coach and recruiter. But Seems the Miller family wants to be in Colorado. But both Steve and his wife are from Wisconsin.

Go4PuckFan2.0
03-18-2016, 02:17 PM
Condolences to our fellow hockey brethren over the loss of your coach. It's never enjoyable seeing bad things happen to good people.

Mike Eaves did a lot for the Badger hockey program.

Hopefully time will be more favorable to his contributions than the past two years have been.

Good luck finding his successor.

HCSmooth
03-18-2016, 02:23 PM
The madison.com article that mentioned 3 names outside the Wisconsin family intrigued me. Primarily the head coach at Union. And I base that entirely on how much fun they were to watch in the Frozen Four 2 years ago. Having Shayne Gostisbehere on your team helps considerably, but it was a far more enjoyable style of play than what Wisconsin had played for so long. I'd be completely OK with someone like that coming in.

Timothy A
03-18-2016, 02:27 PM
how many trucks of cash

I don't think there's much money for 3 new coaches left after they pay MM the next 3 years.

markwojo
03-18-2016, 02:32 PM
I don't think there's much money for 3 new coaches left after they pay MM the next 3 years.

Wisconsin has far more cash in their back pocket from the buyout clause of losing 2 different football coaches in the last half dozen years then they will ever pay MM. Bielsma netted the school $1 million and Anderson was $3 million. Eaves lifetime total compensation probably only starts to sniff those football buyouts.

Bonin21
03-18-2016, 02:33 PM
Now we wait and see how many of 22 potential rostered forwards next year end up on the team.

Also, are you bringing in Stillwell (small, undrafted D without great numbers) over Parsells (huge drafted D) next year?

burd
03-18-2016, 02:50 PM
Now we wait and see how many of 22 potential rostered forwards next year end up on the team.

Also, are you bringing in Stillwell (small, undrafted D without great numbers) over Parsells (huge drafted D) next year?

Glad this didn't happen last year: UND probably would not have gotten Boeser.

J.D.
03-18-2016, 02:59 PM
Wondering if it's possible the new head coach at least keeps the current assistants for now. Will head coach have final say on that right off the bat? I know they have only been on the job for a year.

markwojo
03-18-2016, 03:19 PM
I'm way less concerned about the 22 forwards then I am the D. If you keep Kunin and Besse and end up with Fredrick showing up on campus, that would be as talented and deep a group of forwards as we've had in a long time. The D group is subpar relative to recent UW standards and will require some smoke and mirrors (which Oz did with the group from the first title team...especially guys like Drewiske, Engel, and Piskula who were all relatively unheralded and undrafted...and somehow all developed into being paid to play hockey....2 at the NHL level).

On assistant coaches....I would imagine one stays and one is replaced by the new guys hand picked guy. Way easier to transition with someone as a holdover and Eaves had the AD open the checkbook to help him try to make things work out and I think he got at least one quality guy out of the hiring he did. Although he whiffed on the top tier guys he tried to get (Oz, Granato, & Harbison)...I'm pretty sure Strand is a solid assistant.

Bonin21
03-18-2016, 03:25 PM
Agree if the big three F are all there next year you have a huge imbalance of talent between F and D.

Siouxfaninseattle
03-18-2016, 03:28 PM
I have a prospective coach (not sure if he has already been mentioned) - what about Cary Eades? :D

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-18-2016, 03:35 PM
I have a prospective coach (not sure if he has already been mentioned) - what about Cary Eades? :D

We were wondering in another thread that we needed some more "water bottle" moments in the B1G...

gwhinwi
03-18-2016, 04:45 PM
Now we wait and see how many of 22 potential rostered forwards next year end up on the team.

Also, are you bringing in Stillwell (small, undrafted D without great numbers) over Parsells (huge drafted D) next year?

According to Elite Prospects, both are looking to enroll next season, but from the last I have heard Stillwell is supposed to be a 2017 still (could change though with a new coaching staff.)

http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=452&year0=2017&status=

Bonin21
03-18-2016, 05:19 PM
Don't take EliteProspects as any kind of source of truth for that.