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Dirty Dream No. 2
02-14-2016, 05:06 PM
Michigan is loaded, once again, but also once again, it has shaky to substandard goaltending for the potential this team has. Steve Racine has been starting most of the games the Big 14 portion of the season, and he has nice numbers, but he lets up untimely goals. What is Red's problem with goaltenders? He used to get studs all the time, but now it seems like he's getting goaltenders out of the leftover bin.

Any thoughts? I see UM being lucky to reach the Frozen Four, they just don't have the defensive zone chops.

RaceBoarder
02-14-2016, 05:36 PM
No....

The Rube
02-14-2016, 05:39 PM
No....

tArrogance agrees. You have to go through us.

Hokydad
02-14-2016, 08:34 PM
Racine is not the issue
13-2-3 , 915 save %
Both games they list gave up 3 goals, one in which he had 38 saves.
In last 10 games has avg close to 40 shots a game against
Mich won last game despite being outshot 44-33
Last game they lost he had over 49 saves and pp was 0-7
Real talent there up front!!
Only other game he lost Mich was out shot 14-4 in 3rd period and again only gave up 3 goals, both losses had over 900 save %
First in both conference and overall winning% for all big ten goalies and 3rd in both as well out of all in save %

Mich players need to step up

Pirateasaur
02-14-2016, 09:30 PM
I can't even remember the last time Michigan recruited and developed an excellent goaltender.

Biddco
02-14-2016, 09:32 PM
Yes. They can.



I can't even remember the last time Michigan recruited and developed an excellent goaltender.

Marty Turco?

Pirateasaur
02-14-2016, 10:11 PM
Yes. They can.




Marty Turco?

I thought about him, but I was in about 3rd grade when he graduated, which doesn't exactly refute my point that Michigan has lacked star power at goalie.

Al Montoya? He was good, wasn't he?

ecemleafs
02-14-2016, 10:32 PM
best offense in the country imo. so much talent and so many lines that can score. if racine is average i think they have a great chance to win it all.

The Rube
02-14-2016, 10:34 PM
I thought about him, but I was in about 3rd grade when he graduated, which doesn't exactly refute my point that Michigan has lacked star power at goalie.

Al Montoya? He was good, wasn't he?

Sorta, if I remember right. When he was on, he was ON. But if he was off....good Lord.

Pirateasaur
02-14-2016, 10:54 PM
best offense in the country imo. so much talent and so many lines that can score. if racine is average i think they have a great chance to win it all.

They are very good this season for sure. I see that Racine has a save% of .915 this season? His performance doesn't appear to be a problem.

Bonin21
02-14-2016, 11:13 PM
Let's see what they do at Mariucci against an average Gopher team before we talk about them winning it all.

The Rube
02-14-2016, 11:20 PM
Let's see what they do at Mariucci against an average Gopher team before we talk about them winning it all.
Split on the road last time. I like our chances.

Dirty Dream No. 2
02-15-2016, 12:26 AM
18 years ago...

Dirty Dream No. 2
02-15-2016, 12:27 AM
Marty Turco?

18 yrs ago...

Dirty Dream No. 2
02-15-2016, 12:28 AM
Al Montoya? He was good, wasn't he?


As middling and overrated I thought Montoya was at UM, he's amazingly still in the NHL and getting playing time. I guess that means Al Montoya has scoreboard.

UMICH
02-15-2016, 04:02 AM
Sorta, if I remember right. When he was on, he was ON. But if he was off....good Lord.

Al's problem at Michigan was he got bored back in net when the play was constanbtly in the offensive zone. Ever notice how he was always playing the puck? Not jhust in dump in's, he'd skate over to the corner to get pucks. And his attention while in goal wasn't the best. He had that outstanding Freshman season where he was locked in on the game because, well he was nervous. Not so much his Sophomore an Junior seasons as he was thyinking about playing in MSG. It looks as if he either figured it out in the NHL or foun a dA^^n good sports shrink.

Yes, Al has all the talent in the world providing he is paying attention.

UMICH
02-15-2016, 04:11 AM
Split on the road last time. I like our chances.

Racine really isn't the deal with Michigan. We won the first game 8-3, the Michigan offense was flowing. The second game Michigan was stymied be the Minnesota defense and Minnesota won 3-2. Racine isn't phenomenal but he is very solid. He's not going to steal any games but he will always keep you in it. When Michigan's offense is off we're in trouble. Not because Racine isn't solid, he is, more because Michigan's defense is highly questionable.

All that being said I think the best case scenario for Michigan is a split but unless Michigan is playing like they can Minnesota could sweep. The Olympic sized ice neutrailizes our speed because our guys get tired so fast.

UMICH
02-15-2016, 04:34 AM
Michigan is loaded, once again, but also once again, it has shaky to substandard goaltending for the potential this team has. Steve Racine has been starting most of the games the Big 14 portion of the season, and he has nice numbers, but he lets up untimely goals. What is Red's problem with goaltenders? He used to get studs all the time, but now it seems like he's getting goaltenders out of the leftover bin.

Any thoughts? I see UM being lucky to reach the Frozen Four, they just don't have the defensive zone chops.

Shawn Hunwick. Little Shawn Hunwick. Michigans 3rd-string goalie at the time. Walk-on Shawn Hunwick. All 5'7" of him, led Michigan to the National Championship game. Sure he was not highly acclaimed coming into college and I don't think he was ever drafted but yes he made it to the show. He didn't play much for the Bluejackets (3 minutes), he played for two different teams in the ECHL and went over to Europe before hanging his pads up in 2013. The guy lived his dream, knew that he'd never be a #1 goalie anywhere so he decided to call it quits and become an agent. He IS our Rudy, it's a better story than the actual Rudy too....

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/ex-michigan-goalie-shawn-hunwick-retires-from-pro-hockey-to-become-agent/

streaker
02-15-2016, 07:26 AM
Racine really isn't the deal with Michigan. We won the first game 8-3, the Michigan offense was flowing. The second game Michigan was stymied be the Minnesota defense and Minnesota won 3-2. Racine isn't phenomenal but he is very solid. He's not going to steal any games but he will always keep you in it. When Michigan's offense is off we're in trouble. Not because Racine isn't solid, he is, more because Michigan's defense is highly questionable.

All that being said I think the best case scenario for Michigan is a split but unless Michigan is playing like they can Minnesota could sweep. The Olympic sized ice neutrailizes our speed because our guys get tired so fast.

The last time Michigan played Minnesota, Racine was hurt. Nagelvoort was in net. But it hasn't mattered in Minnesota because the whole team morphs into a ball of goo. Goaltending is only part of the issue. Team defense is the real problem.

streaker
02-15-2016, 07:49 AM
I can't even remember the last time Michigan recruited and developed an excellent goaltender.

Well, the criticism may be directed at the coaches for not keeping recruited netminders, not the fact in recruiting them. Some guy named Gibson was suppose to step in but bolted his commitment at the last minute for the OHL and is playing in Anaheim. There was another highly touted goaltender that did the same thing either right before or just after that. So, the secret is not to count on the blue chip goaltender but find a kid in the weeds, like North Dakota did, taking Johnson right out of Michigan's and MSU's backyard. Same thing with Connor Hellebucyk for UML, now Winnipeg's netminder.

I do not know much about what is in the pipeline but these are the kids coming next season. Dylan St. Cyr who is the son of Manon Rheume, the former female netminder is suppose to be the next hot goalie recruit for U-M and plays for the US U-17 team. Another kid coming in is 19 year old Hayden Lavigne who has kinda lost his accolades and is playing for the Bloomington Thunder in the USHL. That's his 3rd USHL team in 3 years. In 2017-18, Jack Lafontaine is committed and is playing for the Janesville Jets of the NAHL.