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Ralph Baer
02-06-2016, 09:16 PM
discuss

Waite21
02-06-2016, 09:29 PM
RPI has played 125 minutes against Harvard thus far this season and hasn't put one into the Harvard net yet.

Right now, it's kind of tough to feel optimistic about RPI's chances in Friday's game. :(

Ralph Baer
02-06-2016, 09:31 PM
RPI has played 125 minutes against Harvard thus far this season and hasn't put one into the Harvard net yet.

Right now, it's kind of tough to feel optimistic about RPI's chances in Friday's game. :(

That's not the only reason not to be optimistic. :(

FlagDUDE08
02-06-2016, 11:00 PM
These teams are catching RPI in the middle of their annual meltdown. Congratulations to each on two easy points.

vicious
02-07-2016, 04:11 PM
These teams are catching RPI in the middle of their annual meltdown. Congratulations to each on two easy points.

These are both winnable games. It depends on which RPI team shows up. The one we saw score the first two goals last night, which I think can win, or the one that got outshot 29-11 in the second and third periods, whose chances I am less optimistic about. Everyone knows what's on the line.

jericho
02-07-2016, 04:26 PM
These are both winnable games. It depends on which RPI team shows up. The one we saw score the first two goals last night, which I think can win, or the one that got outshot 29-11 in the second and third periods, whose chances I am less optimistic about. Everyone knows what's on the line.

Pay no attention to Flaggy. He has displayed time and again he doesn't know what he's talking about.

FlagDUDE08
02-07-2016, 07:53 PM
These are both winnable games. It depends on which RPI team shows up. The one we saw score the first two goals last night, which I think can win, or the one that got outshot 29-11 in the second and third periods, whose chances I am less optimistic about. Everyone knows what's on the line.

The only trouble is, as we saw last night, both can show up on the same game. It's been a very common thread in the Appert era, as well as the last two years of the Fridgen era I saw, that RPI has a difficulty in finishing out games, which leads to blown third period leads. Is it conditioning? An inability to adjust mid-game? One thing's for sure is that there is a common thread in the last 10 or so years.

FreshFish
02-08-2016, 02:26 PM
Pay no attention to Flaggy. He has displayed time and again he doesn't know what he's talking about....

.... and the less he knows, the more he talks. :rolleyes:

UFan
02-08-2016, 03:21 PM
Points in each game would be nice for Union too, but one in each game will do at this point :)
We have a pretty motivated Freshman team on the ice these days, they're fun to watch, and they try.

Go Union !!!!

engineerhockeyfan
02-11-2016, 09:38 AM
If we are going to win any of these games, we are going to need to change our strategy. We can't sit back and hope that Kazzy stops everything they throw at him. We are going to have to be aggressive. Forecheck, attack the puck in our defensive zone, don't give the opposition any time to set up.
I don't know if we can do that with this lineup, but if we don't. we are going to need Kasdorf to stand on his head to get any points.

lets go red!!!!!!!!!!

vicious
02-11-2016, 01:49 PM
If we are going to win any of these games, we are going to need to change our strategy. We can't sit back and hope that Kazzy stops everything they throw at him. We are going to have to be aggressive. Forecheck, attack the puck in our defensive zone, don't give the opposition any time to set up.
I don't know if we can do that with this lineup, but if we don't. we are going to need Kasdorf to stand on his head to get any points.

lets go red!!!!!!!!!!

I agree. I think we've been in this position for awhile IMHO Kasdorf has stolen some wins for the team (Cornell comes to mind). We can count on the opponents coming out strong with a tough physical hitting game. Harvard and Dartmouth both have something to prove and with the league standings tightening everyone is desperate for points. I'd like to see us play with more desperation too. Appert has been talking for years about the need to play the full 60 and be difficult to play against. FWIW we were doing a great job blocking shots earlier in the season, even up until fairly recently, but my sense is it's fallen off a bit in recent games. Just a hunch on that.

DeepRed72
02-11-2016, 03:08 PM
I agree. I think we've been in this position for awhile IMHO Kasdorf has stolen some wins for the team (Cornell comes to mind). We can count on the opponents coming out strong with a tough physical hitting game. Harvard and Dartmouth both have something to prove and with the league standings tightening everyone is desperate for points. I'd like to see us play with more desperation too. Appert has been talking for years about the need to play the full 60 and be difficult to play against. FWIW we were doing a great job blocking shots earlier in the season, even up until fairly recently, but my sense is it's fallen off a bit in recent games. Just a hunch on that.

Appert has been talking that talk for 10 seasons now. But the team rarely plays anywhere near 60 minutes. Hard to come to the conclusion that he has any idea how to translate that message to the ice. Hard to be optimistic when you are constantly "Beat Down." :(

Ralph Baer
02-11-2016, 03:18 PM
Appert has been talking that talk for 10 seasons now. But the team rarely plays anywhere near 60 minutes. Hard to come to the conclusion that he has any idea how to translate that message to the ice. Hard to be optimistic when you are constantly "Beat Down." :(

Does any team play hard for 60 minutes? The problem is that we can't turn it on at will like QU does.

Ralph Baer
02-11-2016, 03:37 PM
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engineerhockeyfan
02-11-2016, 04:02 PM
Ok, I'm done with this "not playing for 60 minutes" garbage.
This team has never quit, thrown in the towel, or given up. They play a passive game that can look like they are not playing, but they are.
As a Devil's fan, I have seen a team play that style and win three Stanley Cups. They played defense and relied on their goalie.
They also had the personnel to get away with it.
Stop criticizing this team for lack of play. They need to be aggressive. They don't have the personnel to just sit back.
The team is fine, the system in not.

turk181
02-11-2016, 06:03 PM
ok, i'm done with this "not playing for 60 minutes" garbage.
This team has never quit, thrown in the towel, or given up. They play a passive game that can look like they are not playing, but they are.
As a devil's fan, i have seen a team play that style and win three stanley cups. They played defense and relied on their goalie.
They also had the personnel to get away with it.
Stop criticizing this team for lack of play. They need to be aggressive. They don't have the personnel to just sit back.
The team is fine, the system in not.b.i.n.g.o!

DeepRed72
02-11-2016, 06:21 PM
Ok, I'm done with this "not playing for 60 minutes" garbage.
This team has never quit, thrown in the towel, or given up. They play a passive game that can look like they are not playing, but they are.
As a Devil's fan, I have seen a team play that style and win three Stanley Cups. They played defense and relied on their goalie.
They also had the personnel to get away with it.
Stop criticizing this team for lack of play. They need to be aggressive. They don't have the personnel to just sit back.
The team is fine, the system in not.

EHF, as a Ranger season ticket holder who has been going to MSG since the early 70's, I am quite painfully aware of those Lamoriello teams. The reason why the Devils were so successful with that left wing lock was that they had interchangeable parts, i.e., a bench (and Scott Stevens and Brodeur). Those teams were so in lock-step that they played like "The Borg." This RPI team does have Kasdorf but nothing like Stevens to police the blue line. RPI not having that kind of depth nor the discipline limits the ability to play that system as we have seen time after time. I absolutely agree they have to be aggressive but that is not what they have been often. Nobody said they have quit. And it isn't throwing in the towel either, but it is not having your foot on the accelerator at all times. If you accept that going into a shell and hoping that Kasdorf can save your bacon is satisfactory, then fine, we can certainly disagree on what it means to play for 60 minutes. My definition of playing for 60 minutes is being aggressive for 60 minutes. You darn well know that our opponents will.

engineerhockeyfan
02-11-2016, 06:35 PM
EHF, as a Ranger season ticket holder who has been going to MSG since the early 70's, I am quite painfully aware of those Lamoriello teams. The reason why the Devils were so successful with that left wing lock was that they had interchangeable parts, i.e., a bench (and Scott Stevens and Brodeur). Those teams were so in lock-step that they played like "The Borg." This RPI team does have Kasdorf but nothing like Stevens to police the blue line. RPI not having that kind of depth nor the discipline limits the ability to play that system as we have seen time after time. I absolutely agree they have to be aggressive but that is not what they have been often. Nobody said they have quit. And it isn't throwing in the towel either, but it is not having your foot on the accelerator at all times. If you accept that going into a shell and hoping that Kasdorf can save your bacon is satisfactory, then fine, we can certainly disagree on what it means to play for 60 minutes. My definition of playing for 60 minutes is being aggressive for 60 minutes. You darn well know that our opponents will.

DR72 I totally agree with your assessment of the Devils. I tried to say it by pointing out that they had the personnel to play that style.
As for playing for 60 minutes, it has nothing to do with aggression. It is playing your system for 60 minutes. Now you and I would love to see them be more aggressive, but if they are continuing to keep the puck to the outside and giving up their bodies to block shots, that shows me that they are playing their game. Even if we don't like it.
Don't take out your frustration on the players.

ServinisScores
02-11-2016, 11:19 PM
The team is fine, the system in not.

Truth

RPI fan 4 life
02-12-2016, 07:44 AM
DR72 I totally agree with your assessment of the Devils. I tried to say it by pointing out that they had the personnel to play that style.
As for playing for 60 minutes, it has nothing to do with aggression. It is playing your system for 60 minutes. Now you and I would love to see them be more aggressive, but if they are continuing to keep the puck to the outside and giving up their bodies to block shots, that shows me that they are playing their game. Even if we don't like it.
Don't take out your frustration on the players.

In other words, don't hate the players, hate the game (or the system).