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Spartanforlife4
01-04-2016, 12:37 PM
State comes in on a 1-12-1 dumpster fire tour tied for 54th in the Pairwise with Army, a spot behind newcomer Arizona State.

Michigan comes in on a 6-1-2 run, GLI title in hand, and an offense scoring 4.35 goals a game. The defense they'll be facing is 45th in the nation with 3.2 GAA.

Currently three corners of Munn are empty for Friday's game. On the other hand, it's being televised on ESPNews, which nobody watches. Less people to see the massacre. So we got that going for us, which is nice.

owslachief
01-04-2016, 01:12 PM
State comes in on a 1-12-1 dumpster fire tour tied for 54th in the Pairwise with Army, a spot behind newcomer Arizona State.

Michigan comes in on a 6-1-2 run, GLI title in hand, and an offense scoring 4.35 goals a game. The defense they'll be facing is 45th in the nation with 3.2 GAA.

Currently three corners of Munn are empty for Friday's game. On the other hand, it's being televised on ESPNews, which nobody watches. Less people to see the massacre. So we got that going for us, which is nice.

If I'm there, I won't be seen. Since I'll be there, I'm thinking of a Gong Show act that became a regular ... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BBZVQ4zBcU)

alfablue
01-04-2016, 02:08 PM
In the 25 years I've been watching Michigan Hockey, only a handful of UM-MSU games were really dominant from one side of the ice.

Do you really expect that it will be that bad? I just don't see that- it's a game where the players do more than normal games. Jake may have his best game of the year, and pitch a shutout- which would mean a 1-0 win for MSU at least.

On the other hand, IF the 4 games turn into a blow out, the thread about your coach *might* be applicable. I still don't see that.

Decatur Spartan
01-04-2016, 03:22 PM
In the 25 years I've been watching Michigan Hockey, only a handful of UM-MSU games were really dominant from one side of the ice.

Do you really expect that it will be that bad? I just don't see that- it's a game where the players do more than normal games. Jake may have his best game of the year, and pitch a shutout- which would mean a 1-0 win for MSU at least.

On the other hand, IF the 4 games turn into a blow out, the thread about your coach *might* be applicable. I still don't see that.

Yeah, it's going to be that bad. I will admit the effort gets turned up. But with Hildebrand being left all alone most of the time by his teammates, I see another game such as the B10 Semi-final last season. um will skate all over MSU. MSU has 10 goals scored in the last 7 games. It's going to be like the Alamo at Munn, And the Little Big Horn at Yost.

streaker
01-04-2016, 03:40 PM
Yeah, it's going to be that bad. I will admit the effort gets turned up. But with Hildebrand being left all alone most of the time by his teammates, I see another game such as the B10 Semi-final last season. um will skate all over MSU. MSU has 10 goals scored in the last 7 games. It's going to be like the Alamo at Munn, And the Little Big Horn at Yost.

C'mon guys, its not like you are playing Alabama (-Huntsville.)

All kidding aside, these have typically been close games. If there is any pride left in that locker room it will come out this weekend.

UMICH
01-05-2016, 01:36 AM
C'mon guys, its not like you are playing Alabama (-Huntsville.)

All kidding aside, these have typically been close games. If there is any pride left in that locker room it will come out this weekend.

Low blow, but I like it!

UMICH
01-05-2016, 01:45 AM
Yeah, it's going to be that bad. I will admit the effort gets turned up. But with Hildebrand being left all alone most of the time by his teammates, I see another game such as the B10 Semi-final last season. um will skate all over MSU. MSU has 10 goals scored in the last 7 games. It's going to be like the Alamo at Munn, And the Little Big Horn at Yost.

I admit that I haven't watched sparty that much this year but if history is any indication (and it normally is) sparty will be up for these games. I don't have the exact stat available but aren't the vast majority of games between the two settled within one-goal (like 96%)?

Spartanforlife4
01-05-2016, 09:51 AM
I think that's only when State wins. The last two seasons I remember losses against you guys of 7-1, 5-2, 4-1, and 4-1. I think our only non-1 goal win was 3-0 in the GLI.

Pirateasaur
01-05-2016, 10:11 AM
Eh, I think it'll be close.

owslachief
01-05-2016, 01:15 PM
I think that's only when State wins. The last two seasons I remember losses against you guys of 7-1, 5-2, 4-1, and 4-1. I think our only non-1 goal win was 3-0 in the GLI.
Indeed.

In 2008-09, not only did MSU lose all five to U-M (including GLI game), they were all 2-plus goal differentials:
6-1 and 5-3 (Early December)
5-1 (GLI game)
6-2 and 5-3 (January).

This is starting to feel like 2008-09, with a little higher talent level, way less injuries, and no club team loaners.

streaker
01-05-2016, 01:40 PM
Low blow, but I like it!

No, if anything the Spartan hockey fans on the site are pretty reasonable people and understand a little good natured joisting here and there. The gnashing of teeth on the part of the Munn faithful has been humorous, though.

The football and basketball programs are solid so there is nothing there to make them wrinkle their nose. That's how it should be, comfortable with their programs and the results, even though the Bama thing indicated a talent gap that some in Spartan Nation didn't see or want to admit after beating Michigan, OSU and Iowa. But, I digress.

The Big Ten needs the Spartan hockey program to be better in order to make the entire six teams more viable for an at-large. That would be my only hope that MSU becomes competitive again. They have decent pieces this season, showed some spark, but I stated early on that the difficult n/c schedule may suck the life out of them. It has, IMO. It was admirable to take on Maine, UNH, BC, Denver, UND, etc. Just the same, this team will beat any team that just throws their sticks on the ice or are overconfident. I spend little time worrying about them as much as how Michigan will come out this weekend.

UMICH
01-05-2016, 02:05 PM
No, if anything the Spartan hockey fans on the site are pretty reasonable people and understand a little good natured joisting here and there. The gnashing of teeth on the part of the Munn faithful has been humorous, though.

The football and basketball programs are solid so there is nothing there to make them wrinkle their nose. That's how it should be, comfortable with their programs and the results, even though the Bama thing indicated a talent gap that some in Spartan Nation didn't see or want to admit after beating Michigan, OSU and Iowa. But, I digress.

The Big Ten needs the Spartan hockey program to be better in order to make the entire six teams more viable for an at-large. That would be my only hope that MSU becomes competitive again. They have decent pieces this season, showed some spark, but I stated early on that the difficult n/c schedule may suck the life out of them. It has, IMO. It was admirable to take on Maine, UNH, BC, Denver, UND, etc. Just the same, this team will beat any team that just throws their sticks on the ice or are overconfident. I spend little time worrying about them as much as how Michigan will come out this weekend.

I pretty much agree with you. I am also concerned about this weekend, not like we were playing a North Dakota, BC, or Denver though. I'm concerned because sparty seemingly only gets motivated to play us. With as bad as their season has been so far, sweeping us (or even slpitting) would almost save their season.

As for their football team, yes it was a good season however you must also take into account the enormous amount of luck that played a role in it. The kick-six against us, fluke. The intercept7ion against Iowa off of an Iowa players back, flukish. ohio state definitely looking head to Michigan the following week (and I could swear ohio state had a playbook consisting of 3 plays for that entire game), can't call it a fluke but fortunate for sure. Then there is only beating Purdue by three, playing Oregon with a QB who had a broken index-finger on his throwing-hand and winning by only three, etc. And after Iowa got Molly-whoped in the Rose Bowl by Stanford that win comes into question.

bouncy-ball is bouncy-ball, we'll leave it at that.

I'm not going into this weekend over-confident, it's sparty. They'll show up.

Decatur Spartan
01-05-2016, 08:45 PM
I pretty much agree with you. I am also concerned about this weekend, not like we were playing a North Dakota, BC, or Denver though. I'm concerned because sparty seemingly only gets motivated to play us. With as bad as their season has been so far, sweeping us (or even slpitting) would almost save their season.

As for their football team, yes it was a good season however you must also take into account the enormous amount of luck that played a role in it. The kick-six against us, fluke. The intercept7ion against Iowa off of an Iowa players back, flukish. ohio state definitely looking head to Michigan the following week (and I could swear ohio state had a playbook consisting of 3 plays for that entire game), can't call it a fluke but fortunate for sure. Then there is only beating Purdue by three, playing Oregon with a QB who had a broken index-finger on his throwing-hand and winning by only three, etc. And after Iowa got Molly-whoped in the Rose Bowl by Stanford that win comes into question.

bouncy-ball is bouncy-ball, we'll leave it at that.

I'm not going into this weekend over-confident, it's sparty. They'll show up.

I just watched the Anastos presser, He said that he (paraphrasing) hopes the confidence level gets better.
Oh yeah, we'll show up. Probably even lace up the skates and go onto the ice. End result will be like the B10 Semi-final last season. Hildebrand will have to stop 45 shots just to lose 4-1. Everything with this program now is about hope. Hope the puck goes into the goal. Hope they get no bad bounces. Hope the stick doesn't break. Hope the bus doesn't get a flat. Hope there is enough juice at the training table. It seems that tCHHCoMSU can do nothing but hope.

Spartanforlife4
01-06-2016, 01:17 AM
I'll gladly take luck each year if it means a playoff berth. Every team has luck, MSU is just more direct with their capitalization of it. Alabama isn't in the playoffs if Arkansas doesn't convert a 4th and 25 in OT.

Good chance for a double Final Four year. Unfortunately, hockey is stopping a chance at the triple crown.

UMICH
01-06-2016, 03:04 AM
tCHHCoMSU

Excuse me? I'm not familiar with that acronym. the College Hockey Head Coach of MSU?

alfablue
01-06-2016, 06:38 AM
I just watched the Anastos presser, He said that he (paraphrasing)hopes the confidence level gets better.
Oh yeah, we'll show up. Probably even lace up the skates and go onto the ice. End result will be like the B10 Semi-final last season. Hildebrand will have to stop 45 shots just to lose 4-1. Everything with this program now is about hope. Hope the puc4k goes into the goal. Hope they get no bad bounces. Hope the stick doesn't break. Hope the bus doesn't get a flat. Hope there is enough juice at the training table. It seems that tCHHCoMSU can do nothing but hope.

He better be doing more than hoping. We are not doing enough to make the conference better, and everyone has to work at it. Hard. So that at the beginning of the season, we, as a conference, are ready to play everyone.

The B1G has more championships between 2/3 of our members than any other conference- we are playing as if that actually gives us a free ride.

Very irritating.

Decatur Spartan
01-06-2016, 09:55 AM
Excuse me? I'm not familiar with that acronym. the College Hockey Head Coach of MSU?

the Current Head Hockey Coach of Michigan State University. tCHHCoMSU.

Scarlet
01-06-2016, 10:06 AM
Are either of your schools back in session yet? BU and BC play next weekend and both schools are still on winter break for those games - both sides are annoyed that these games were scheduled at that time rather than when students are back. Seems somewhat similar here, though you guys play each other two more times later on so maybe it's not as big a deal.

streaker
01-06-2016, 11:14 AM
I'll gladly take luck each year if it means a playoff berth. Every team has luck, MSU is just more direct with their capitalization of it. Alabama isn't in the playoffs if Arkansas doesn't convert a 4th and 25 in OT.

Great point, Ark miracle kept Bama in the SEC West Division lead over Mississippi, their only loss of the year... and we know the rest.

Just the same, I don't think luck had anything to do with the MSU win at OSU. They were just ill prepared and had a crap gameplan. That will go down as the worst nightmare for a team almost as talented with NFL players as Bama. Bonus for MSU was how OSU took that out on Michigan the same way MSU was exposed along with Iowa, playing teams that had marquee talent and in Bama's case, were fully prepared. So now the task for Dantonio is to find those 4-5* players to commit because that is what Meyer and Harbaugh will be getting and that Saben will keep getting. Coaching up 2* & 3* talent (which worked out really well, sprinkled with some top talent) worked for winning B1G Ten championships and some national match-ups, but not for the elite match-ups.

Don't know how basketball will shake out as far as a F4, too many variables in the tourney and we don't have a dog in that fight, kinda like MSU hockey this season.

alfablue
01-06-2016, 11:29 AM
Are either of your schools back in session yet? BU and BC play next weekend and both schools are still on winter break for those games - both sides are annoyed that these games were scheduled at that time rather than when students are back. Seems somewhat similar here, though you guys play each other two more times later on so maybe it's not as big a deal.

Michigan starts today, Jan 6.