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JohnsonsJerseys
01-01-2016, 01:25 PM
Three D-I teams head to Arizona next weekend to join host ASU in bringing D-I hockey back to the desert SW for the first time since Northern Arizona Univ was a D-I program in the 1980s. College hockey Friday and Sunday with a chance to see NHL All-Star overall leading vote-getter, and MTU alum, John Scott in action with the Arizona Coyotes on Saturday. Should be a fun weekend with a chance to mix it up with fans of some rare opponents.

I'm sure ASU wants to win their first D-I "home" games, but the tourney is pretty much a must win weekend for Michigan Tech to keep their NCAA tourney hopes alive after a split with MSU and Michigan at the GLI tourney this past week.

Who else is making the trip?

Ryan J

Might have to pull out this vintage gem for the trip...
NAU #14 - Greg Adams circa 1982-84

<img height=300 src="http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/archive/ncaa/cha/nau14_f.jpg"> <img height=300 src="http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/archive/ncaa/cha/nau14_b.jpg">

Red Cows
01-07-2016, 10:38 PM
Take a gander at just how few tickets have been sold for this tourney, and, here we are less than 24 hours before it starts.

Friday's games:

http://www.ticketmaster.com/desert-hockey-classic-game-1-5pm-glendale-arizona-01-08-2016/event/19004F0792BF1D06?artistid=844652&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9&tm_link=artist_msg-0_19004F0792BF1D06

Saturday's games:

http://www.ticketmaster.com/desert-hockey-classic-game-1-12pm-glendale-arizona-01-10-2016/event/19004F0792B81CC1?artistid=844652&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9&tm_link=artist_msg-0_19004F0792B81CC1

Tickets are not being sold in the upper level of the arena at all nor in sections 116, 117, & 118.

It looks like they have maybe sold 1,000 to 2,000 tickets for each day. In an arena that seats 17,125 for hockey.

Take look at the ticket prices, too. Wow. Starting at 30 bucks?

Yep, a ton of pent up demand down there for NCAA hockey. Maybe they'll have a great walk-up, or something.

There are some real yucks in this interview with ASU's Athletic Director, loaded with hyperbole:

http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/asu-hosts-desert-hockey-classic-at-gila-river-arena-010716

I applaud what they are trying to do down there, but I question if there is any real demand for it.

They probably would have been better off playing this deal in their own matchbox of an arena. At least the atmosphere would be better.

The Rube
01-07-2016, 10:48 PM
It's the first year. JFC, give it some time.

FadeToBlack&Gold
01-07-2016, 11:22 PM
I wouldn't shocked if Scott pops in on at least one of our games - the Coyotes start a 7-game home stretch tomorrow, and he was at the annual alumni event in Houghton this past summer, palling around with a lot of ordinary locals and alums from his era.

manurespreader
01-08-2016, 08:31 AM
Don't underestimate the Yalies. they are the favorite in this tournament.
And it is not warm in Phoenix. it's tough to play golf when it's 45. I'm sure it'll be warmer inside the rink.
i'm not a fan of the late start time tonight though.

LTsatch
01-08-2016, 11:16 AM
Unfortunately to watch the Yale game on TV or online you have to be a PAC12 network subscriber. there is no option to purchase the feed. The early UConn game has no option to watch. Hopefully the organizers can offer something in the future, especially considering with the remote location from three of the participating schools. There is audio online at least.

LTsatch
01-08-2016, 11:17 AM
Don't underestimate the Yalies. they are the favorite in this tournament.
And it is not warm in Phoenix. it's tough to play golf when it's 45. I'm sure it'll be warmer inside the rink.
i'm not a fan of the late start time tonight though.

Don't underestimate UConn either, they have been known to steal a game or two.

Red Cows
01-08-2016, 01:05 PM
Unfortunately to watch the Yale game on TV or online you have to be a PAC12 network subscriber. there is no option to purchase the feed. The early UConn game has no option to watch. Hopefully the organizers can offer something in the future, especially considering with the remote location from three of the participating schools. There is audio online at least.

And, the PAC 12 Network is not available at all on Direct TV. Word is, it may by next football season, though.

huskyfan
01-08-2016, 02:26 PM
excited to be at the inaugural tournament. long may ASU hockey live.

JohnsonsJerseys
01-08-2016, 02:31 PM
excited to be at the inaugural tournament.
I'll be more excited to WIN the inaugural tourney and get two non-conference wins.
:-)
Ryan

huskyfan
01-09-2016, 09:58 AM
from the grapevine - U of A will be adding Division I hockey. perhaps this will open up the rest of the west. league re organization, anyone?

altazo
01-09-2016, 11:18 AM
5k attendance for ASU's first D1 home game in an arena that seats 17k? That's a bummer.

At least hockey in the desert has given the hockey world Auston Matthews...

bulldog10jw
01-09-2016, 11:21 AM
it's tough to play golf when it's 45. I'm sure it'll be warmer inside the rink.
i'm not a fan of the late start time tonight though.

It was freezing inside the rink

manurespreader
01-09-2016, 11:41 AM
It was freezing inside the rink
Uh no , it wasn't. It was typical for a rink though.
And the 5000 attendance must have included about 2000 free tickets asu gave out. Half of the rest were from Tech.
The only UConn or Yale fans were the parents.

bulldog10jw
01-09-2016, 11:51 AM
Uh no , it wasn't. It was typical for a rink though.
And the 5000 attendance must have included about 2000 free tickets asu gave out. Half of the rest were from Tech.
The only UConn or Yale fans were the parents.

Typical for an outdoor rink back east, maybe.
Is it also typical for play to be stopped 3 or 4 times a period to clean the ice.

Shirtless Guy
01-09-2016, 02:04 PM
Typical for an outdoor rink back east, maybe.
Is it also typical for play to be stopped 3 or 4 times a period to clean the ice.
They went NHL style on that stuff...and I wasn't cold during tech game, but after almost everyone else left, it got cold for the Yale ASU game

Red Cows
01-09-2016, 03:45 PM
from the grapevine - U of A will be adding Division I hockey. perhaps this will open up the rest of the west. league re organization, anyone?

Unless something has changed since Arizona's AD made the quote in the 2nd to last paragraph of this article, from the school's own Athletic Department web site, to the complete contrary:

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/article/2014/12/column-arizona-hockey-should-be-raised-to-varsity-status

..........perhaps you can tell us more about this grapevine?

Because, I can't find a single story that postulates differently about what he said on the topic, then, since.

Red Cows
01-09-2016, 04:00 PM
Uh no , it wasn't. It was typical for a rink though.
And the 5000 attendance must have included about 2000 free tickets asu gave out. Half of the rest were from Tech.
The only UConn or Yale fans were the parents.

Considering that this was the very first time that Arizona State played a home hockey game against D-1 competition (against a top 10 team in Pairwise at that) in an arena (an NHL facility) that isn't a complete joke of a facility (Oceanside Arena) for an NCAA school of this size and magnitude, a ticket to which got you two games for the price of one, a crowd of 5,028 is cause for concern, to say the least.

I don't personally believe there is much pent up demand for NCAA D-1 hockey at ASU or at other PAC 12 schools and I laugh every time I hear about "the coming of the PAC 12 Hockey Conference".

Remember the 3 keys, that apply to every school even THINKING about this.

Facilities.
Title IX.
The financial wherewithal, and the public and private sector will to spend the monies necessary on the endeavor.

Don't see it.

I mean, really, what would be the motivating/driving force to do this? We can't even get the Big 10 to add the 2 teams it desperately needs to add, as yet, to a league that already exists, and everyone thinks the PAC 12 is going is going to form an entire league starting completely from scratch with one team? No way.

I hope to God I am somehow wrong, for the good of the sport, but, I don't think I am.

huskyfan
01-09-2016, 04:15 PM
Considering that this was the very first time that Arizona State played a home hockey game against D-1 competition (against a top 10 team in Pairwise at that) in an arena (an NHL facility) that isn't a complete joke of a facility (Oceanside Arena) for an NCAA school of this size and magnitude, a ticket to which got you two games for the price of one, a crowd of 5,028 is cause for concern, to say the least.

I don't personally believe there is much pent up demand for NCAA D-1 hockey at ASU or at other PAC 12 schools and I laugh every time I hear about "the coming of the PAC 12 Hockey Conference".

Remember the 3 keys, that apply to every school even THINKING about this.

Facilities.
Title IX.
The financial wherewithal, and the public and private sector will to spend the monies necessary on the endeavor.

Don't see it.

I mean, really, what would be the motivating/driving force to do this? We can't even get the Big 10 to add the 2 teams it desperately needs to add, as yet, to a league that already exists, and everyone thinks the PAC 12 is going is going to form an entire league starting completely from scratch with one team? No way.

I hope to God I am somehow wrong, for the good of the sport, but, I don't think I am.

U of A draws 5000 for their CLUB hockey program. They play downtown at the convention center. Lots of other schools out here have arenas - perhaps not large and fancy but a venue nevertheless. I am not saying anything about the rest of the Pac 12 schools - I have no idea what their plans are.
ASU managed to pull it together in 2 years without a large major donor like Penn State had.

Title IX doesn't have to be *** for tat does it? Couldn't they throw in women's fencing or baton twirling?

Red Cows
01-09-2016, 04:36 PM
U of A draws 5000 for their CLUB hockey program. They play downtown at the convention center. Lots of other schools out here have arenas - perhaps not large and fancy but a venue nevertheless. I am not saying anything about the rest of the Pac 12 schools - I have no idea what their plans are.
ASU managed to pull it together in 2 years without a large major donor like Penn State had.

Title IX doesn't have to be *** for tat does it? Couldn't they throw in women's fencing or baton twirling?

Au contraire. A donor ponied up 32 million to get ASU's program going:

http://www.statepress.com/article/2014/11/asu-hockey-announces-historic-move-to-ncaa

And, it was the largest donation to the Athletic Department in ASU school history, just as it was a Penn State. In fact, at Penn State, the contribution was the single largest in school history for any reason, let alone to the Athletic Department.

Title IX "compliance" varies from school to school. Many schools are already upside down to some degree or another (read: more men's athletic scholarships than women's) on scholarships.

Any school, that endows the 18 men's scholarships for a D-1 men's hockey program had better be endowing that many on the women's side of the ledger, too. Don't have to be in the same sport, by the way.

And, having arenas/facilities of some kind or another does NOT mean that they necessarily have the capability to make ice in them.

And, to reiterate from the article I posted, Arizona's own AD says D-1 hockey is not on their radar. What could be more definitive than that?