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Originally posted by UAHHerd4 View PostWell I have to respectfully disagree with you. I'm not thrilled with where this team is at. I'm not saying we don't compete most nights but that doesn't mean you're going to win. I don't like the offensive structure at all. We get destroyed in t.o.p every game, we can't just rely on great goaltending every night with a poor offensive attack it doesn't work. We returned about 90 percent of this team and realistically I don't think most UAH fans expected us to be in dead last. I think most of us thought we would be in the middle of the pack, it's frustrating right now."The use of common sense and logic will not be tolerated and may result in fine and/or suspension."- Western Professional Hockey League By-laws. 1999-2000.
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Originally posted by UAHHerd4 View PostWell I have to respectfully disagree with you. I'm not thrilled with where this team is at. I'm not saying we don't compete most nights but that doesn't mean you're going to win. I don't like the offensive structure at all. We get destroyed in t.o.p every game, we can't just rely on great goaltending every night with a poor offensive attack it doesn't work. We returned about 90 percent of this team and realistically I don't think most UAH fans expected us to be in dead last. I think most of us thought we would be in the middle of the pack, it's frustrating right now.
Add that to Carmine reverting to his lower spots of last year, and this team just really faltered, and I don't think that they ever really mentally recovered. Honestly, that's on the players.
It's just a shame that we don't play in a crappy league where a hot weekend of goaltending gets us into the NCAA tournament.
GFM
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Originally posted by gfmorris View PostI'd say that the problem was inconsistency amongst the freshmen, combined with Saulnier's issues (whatever they are). The big problem was that, after November started, UAH was a one-line team, and opponents just worked to shut down McHugh's line. An all-freshman second line never really pulled together. Based on his history (improving as a repeat player at a level), I didn't expect Houcher to light the world on fire, but he was really reluctant to shoot when things were tough.
Add that to Carmine reverting to his lower spots of last year, and this team just really faltered, and I don't think that they ever really mentally recovered. Honestly, that's on the players.
It's just a shame that we don't play in a crappy league where a hot weekend of goaltending gets us into the NCAA tournament.
GFM
One must remember that the program is still moving from the what you can get to getting what you want in the recruiting process. Let's see where this team is four years from now when the carnage done by Malcolm Portera no longer resonates in any appreciable fashion.
More fundraising needs to be done as well. 20 hour bus trips take their toll over the course of a season. They shouldn't be bussing anywhere other than Bowling Green and Ferris.Last edited by davyd83; 02-22-2016, 11:00 AM."The use of common sense and logic will not be tolerated and may result in fine and/or suspension."- Western Professional Hockey League By-laws. 1999-2000.
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I think that Houcher will be much better next year in the way that, say, Kestner was better this year.
I'm all for giving Corbett five years to get an entire roster of "his" guys through the system. Fuss about the coaches all you want, but UAH hasn't had a consistent coaching staff for more than three years since Doug Ross retired and Lance West left for Alaska. Even then, the second assistant bounced around, with both John McCabe and Nathan Bowen doing a solid job in that role. Hell, last year was the first year that the same three coaches had been in place since it was Danton Cole with Chris Luongo and McCabe. These guys can't build something until they get their talent in there and can fully set up their systems.
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Originally posted by davyd83 View PostProgress takes time. Your team has improved it's goal scoring by 35% this year. Your expectations may have been a bit unrealistic. Now beat Bemidji.
I agree with Geof about the inconsistency of the freshmen. During that 0-10-1 stretch in November-December, we started to expect the bad turnover that led to a 2-on-1 (or none) and an easy goal that they would not overcome. They've limited those killer mistakes in the second half of the season, and it's helped us be more competitive, so that is some growth. We lose only four seniors (two of them regulars in the lineup), so much of this group should stay intact and be a little wiser.
I think the SOG differential has been exasperated in the last two weeks. Minnesota State I expected to fire away (because they've done nothing but the past three years), but not so much with Northern Michigan, a team that we did outshoot 47-22 in the first game in Huntsville (yet lost 4-3 on that Dominik Shine penalty shot).
I too am a little frustrated that we haven't gotten more wins this season, but it's not so bad that I'm not looking forward to next October.
#BeatBemidjiMichael Napier - UAH '97
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Originally posted by gfmorris View PostI think that Houcher will be much better next year in the way that, say, Kestner was better this year.
I'm all for giving Corbett five years to get an entire roster of "his" guys through the system. Fuss about the coaches all you want, but UAH hasn't had a consistent coaching staff for more than three years since Doug Ross retired and Lance West left for Alaska. Even then, the second assistant bounced around, with both John McCabe and Nathan Bowen doing a solid job in that role. Hell, last year was the first year that the same three coaches had been in place since it was Danton Cole with Chris Luongo and McCabe. These guys can't build something until they get their talent in there and can fully set up their systems.
GFM
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Originally posted by UAHHerd4 View PostWell, five years sounds about right. I don't mind letting him bring his recruits in and seeing what happens. We've got some issues that have to be worked out and if they're handled right maybe Corbett will work out here. I guess I had my expectations too high after making the playoffs with essentially the same team and bringing in several newcomers.
(I had UAH 7th. )Michael Napier - UAH '97
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Offense is normally the last thing that happens in a successful rebuilding program. You normally have to build from goaltending and defense out, and I'll include defensive play from your forwards in that "defense" category. Most of the high end scorers are committed several years out, so when you make a coaching change and try to rebuild, those high end guys are no longer available and in the near term you have to look for guys who develop late in their junior careers for the first few recruiting classes. Concurrently a new coaching staff can actively start recruiting the current crop of young high end players, guys who probably are 3-4 years away from playing college hockey, and hope that they can land some of them occasionally. I think it works this way in most cases. Obviously if you have a big name program that has had a lot of success (at least fairly recently), this rebuilding process can go a little more quickly since it likely will be a little easier to attract recruits.
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From an eye test point of view. In other words, just watching them play and not judging the score, but how they are on the ice, they are night and day better than last year. Just keep it up. You have a good coach and the players will develop. I know it's hard to be patient, but honestly you are really making good progress.
You have to judge a player, not on how he is coming in, but how will he be down the line.MTU: Three time NCAA champions.
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I just hope this horrible Charger team makes the trip to Bemidji this weekend!Millsy
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Originally posted by UAHHerd4 View PostWell, five years sounds about right. I don't mind letting him bring his recruits in and seeing what happens. We've got some issues that have to be worked out and if they're handled right maybe Corbett will work out here. I guess I had my expectations too high after making the playoffs with essentially the same team and bringing in several newcomers.
There are other problems with the program, namely funding and Spragins Hall. That said, a resource issue is involved for just about every part of Athletics, but especially Sports Information, who lost their intern and added two new sports. I really don't know how Taylor and Sam do it.
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I tried to load a photo but it failed. It's supposed to be accommodations offered this weekend to UAH players, coaches & fans in Bemidji.
Sorry.
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Originally posted by gfmorris View PostYeah, as Michael noted, I had them 4th. That makes me feel like an idiot. And trust me, the players read this stuff.
There are other problems with the program, namely funding and Spragins Hall. That said, a resource issue is involved for just about every part of Athletics, but especially Sports Information, who lost their intern and added two new sports. I really don't know how Taylor and Sam do it.
GFM"The use of common sense and logic will not be tolerated and may result in fine and/or suspension."- Western Professional Hockey League By-laws. 1999-2000.
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