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Almington
05-09-2016, 12:42 PM
Spreadsheet has been updated.

Also, I have added another marker for players who have committed to the new staff (since we had the indicator for the previous staff in there as well.)

Also need to remove Sundberg from what I've been told.

gwhinwi
05-09-2016, 12:50 PM
Also need to remove Sundberg from what I've been told.

I'll pull him once I see the confirmation, but it wouldn't shock me.

Timothy A
05-09-2016, 01:21 PM
JD Greenway just tweeted that he is going to be a Badger.

I was worried about him not signing. With DG on the staff, in my head UW had to be the odds on favorite to land him. I would have been bummed if he had not put on the cardinal and white.

I would have taken Astren and Sunburg had they been upgrades to the current roster.

markwojo
05-09-2016, 02:39 PM
Wonder if anyone has had a conversation with Greenway's d partner from the U18 world championships....the tourneys "best defenseman" winner who is not bound by a national letter of intent?

gwhinwi
05-09-2016, 02:53 PM
Well, Osiecki did say "recruits in town" when he tweeted on Saturday. Gotta figure we'll hear about more than Greenway in the coming days.

solovsfett
05-09-2016, 06:18 PM
Is Greenway a significant (and immediate) improvement over Astren?

Where was Sunberg in terms of talent-level, blue chippah, solid, project? For about the past 2-3 years I've barely perused articles on incoming recruits (that all changes now w/TG of course)

gwhinwi
05-09-2016, 06:40 PM
Is Greenway a significant (and immediate) improvement over Astren?

Where was Sunberg in terms of talent-level, blue chippah, solid, project? For about the past 2-3 years I've barely perused articles on incoming recruits (that all changes now w/TG of course)

Based on the things I've seen Greenway is a bit more highly regarded than Astren. Of course, I haven't seen either of them play so I can't speak with any authority on the subject.

Almington
05-09-2016, 07:30 PM
Where was Sunberg in terms of talent-level, blue chippah, solid, project? For about the past 2-3 years I've barely perused articles on incoming recruits (that all changes now w/TG of course)

Solid 2nd or 3rd line 4-yr forward. Good size and some potential scoring upside. He's someone that the staff will be able to replace with someone of there choosing in the next class.

markwojo
05-09-2016, 07:46 PM
Greenway is #121 in Central Scouting's final rating for North American Skaters. I don't believe Astren in rated by Central Scouting. From a pro potential standpoint, that would mean Greenway is probably a late round (5-7th round) draft pick while Astren is likely undrafted. Heisenberg recruiting list has Greenway as #85 on his USHL list while Astren is #224. I don't think Heisenberg is particularly in depth as far as evaluating and ranking guys....but his list is generally in order from top guys on down. Heisenberg lists Sundberg as #40 on the NAHL list (NAHL is generally speaking a significant step down from USHL as a college feeder league).

As far as precollege ranking/ratings Greenway is a significant upgrade over Astren and Sundberg is not a highly regarded can't miss blue chippah. All that said, none of this ultimately means anything on who will be impactful players at the college level.

solovsfett
05-09-2016, 08:31 PM
Based on the things I've seen Greenway is a bit more highly regarded than Astren. Of course, I haven't seen either of them play so I can't speak with any authority on the subject.

Thanks!

solovsfett
05-09-2016, 08:33 PM
Solid 2nd or 3rd line 4-yr forward. Good size and some potential scoring upside. He's someone that the staff will be able to replace with someone of there choosing in the next class.

Thanks for the info, I'm very excited to see how the recruiting progresses under G2O.

Wisko McBadgerton
05-09-2016, 09:38 PM
Thanks for the info, I'm very excited to see how the recruiting progresses under G2O.

Greenway had 12 PIM vs. the UND F-ing Hawks this year. What more do we need to know? :)


Actually, I love this kid. He's the 11th highest rated draft eligible D entering college hockey in the fall and his stock is rising after his performance on the USA U18 top pair at the Worlds. I'm going to say he won't make it past the 4th round. 6'4" 205 at 18 with just a ton of raw talent. Has some work to do under heavy pressure, but he's going to walk right into the top 4 and working under Oz here, the sky is the limit for him. Perfect fit for what we need. Just a fantastic get this late in the year.

My best guess is that the staff will try to add one more D if they can. I'm right on the same page with markwojo in that Harvard commit Adam Fox would be a dream get.

Somehow pull out another rabbit and add either Fox, or Dennis Cholowski and the Badgers will be back right now.

Wisko McBadgerton
05-09-2016, 09:58 PM
Also need to remove Sundberg from what I've been told.

Anybody you know have anything to say about Carson Vance?

techtodenver
05-09-2016, 10:43 PM
Greenway is #121 in Central Scouting's final rating for North American Skaters. I don't believe Astren in rated by Central Scouting. From a pro potential standpoint, that would mean Greenway is probably a late round (5-7th round) draft pick while Astren is likely undrafted. Heisenberg recruiting list has Greenway as #85 on his USHL list while Astren is #224. I don't think Heisenberg is particularly in depth as far as evaluating and ranking guys....but his list is generally in order from top guys on down. Heisenberg lists Sundberg as #40 on the NAHL list (NAHL is generally speaking a significant step down from USHL as a college feeder league).

As far as precollege ranking/ratings Greenway is a significant upgrade over Astren and Sundberg is not a highly regarded can't miss blue chippah. All that said, none of this ultimately means anything on who will be impactful players at the college level.

Astren is 20 years of age and played with soon to be first round pick Olli Juolevi on a really good Jokerit team most of last year, Greenway is a great get (the type of recruit Clarkson can't get) but Astren is still a good player that has consistently improved his game year in year out, he took the step to come to North America and get acclimated to the style of play before spending four years at a North American school (Smart move that will only help). Greenway is the type of recruit who will instantly help but will have his fair share of issues just like Astren will at Clarkson but in terms of knowing who a blue chip recruit is that can't be told until they step on the ice. Will be interesting to see JD come back to his hometown late in October, not going to be a easy roadtrip I can guarantee that.

DPlaya
05-09-2016, 10:47 PM
Anybody you know have anything to say about Carson Vance?

I think Vance's Twitter feed used to say he was a UW commit (can't remember for sure, but think he had it on there). His Twitter feed does not currently mention that he is a UW commit. I would guess he will not be a Badger.

Almington
05-09-2016, 10:51 PM
Anybody you know have anything to say about Carson Vance?

Not at this time.

solovsfett
05-09-2016, 11:13 PM
Greenway had 12 PIM vs. the UND F-ing Hawks this year. What more do we need to know? :)


Actually, I love this kid. He's the 11th highest rated draft eligible D entering college hockey in the fall and his stock is rising after his performance on the USA U18 top pair at the Worlds. I'm going to say he won't make it past the 4th round. 6'4" 205 at 18 with just a ton of raw talent. Has some work to do under heavy pressure, but he's going to walk right into the top 4 and working under Oz here, the sky is the limit for him. Perfect fit for what we need. Just a fantastic get this late in the year.

My best guess is that the staff will try to add one more D if they can. I'm right on the same page with markwojo in that Harvard commit Adam Fox would be a dream get.

Somehow pull out another rabbit and add either Fox, or Dennis Cholowski and the Badgers will be back right now.

ha ha ha, nice! Roughing up the siouxie's (err hawks) is GREAT to have on the resume heading into Madison.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
05-09-2016, 11:28 PM
Great news on JD Greenway.

Shame about the Nordic recruit(s), as I was thinking that they would t be the weakest links this year. Still, best of luck to him/them.

Almington
05-10-2016, 01:34 AM
Great news on JD Greenway.

Shame about the Nordic recruit(s), as I was thinking that they would t be the weakest links this year. Still, best of luck to him/them.

Sounds like these decisions were made on the academic, not the athletic, side.

Wisko McBadgerton
05-10-2016, 09:50 AM
Here's ghwinwi's recruit list link again for convenience https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjXN2fjYURxIheSmq9raNLdLnPawRfO1S63AG6PY0oE/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0:


The reason I ask about Vance is this: Returning D as far as we know are

1.Davison
2.Linhart
3.Sexton
4.Tischke
5.Bunz

And I suppose maybe Hurley but given that they switched McGuire rather than play Hurley I gotta believe at this point he's not ever getting in.

Astren is out, Greenway is in, so that's six. Berkovitz has now had two below average years, Stillwell and Parsells had mediocre years at best. Parsells maybe the best of the three as a stay at home defender, but I question whether any of them will be here in the fall. Even if one of them comes in and Vance is out as Dplaya suggests, that means they are definitely adding another D off a short list.

Now maybe Vance and/or at least one of those guys is in and/or they like Mcguire there enough to give him a shot, but that seems the least likely. So therefore I conclude there will be another D announced in the near future. How's that?

A puck mover is what is needed. A top one would allow them to play Davison on the third pair where he could actually excel this year in giving it some punch while not having to face top lines too often. We'd look pretty good going in to the season.