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Timothy A
11-04-2015, 01:34 PM
That was my thought as well. The timing of Labosky committing seems far too coincidental.

I don't know about the timing. There has been a constant stream of commitments since the start of the year via some twitter people I follow, so the commitment right now could just business as usual.

gwhinwi
11-04-2015, 03:29 PM
I don't know about the timing. There has been a constant stream of commitments since the start of the year via some twitter people I follow, so the commitment right now could just business as usual.

Certainly possible. I just didn't know if his commitment was different as he has already attended one school already.

techtodenver
11-04-2015, 08:01 PM
NLIs get sent out quite soon I'm pretty sure so that could be why, nice get IMO he just wasn't physically ready for the college game at CC he's become more of a vocal leader on Tri-City, he just visited out East recently and I'm sure those coaches are pretty disappointed, good luck with the season.

Wisko McBadgerton
11-05-2015, 09:43 AM
NLIs get sent out quite soon I'm pretty sure so that could be why, nice get IMO he just wasn't physically ready for the college game at CC he's become more of a vocal leader on Tri-City, he just visited out East recently and I'm sure those coaches are pretty disappointed, good luck with the season.

Thanks for the comments. When Besse was signed I watched several of his high school games and Labosky really stood out. I was always thinking "Why aren't we going after him?" But he was already committed. He's still going to have to beef up even more, but he had great skates and hands. I can see him being a Jefferson Dahl type of player here. Quick on the fore check and can dish or get to the net. Presumably Bittner's doing, as he coached Labosky at Tri-City last year.

MplsSioux
11-05-2015, 10:07 AM
Schlossman's in the GF Herald on the fall of the Badger's hockey program, agree or disagree on his takes?


http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-Wisconsin (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-wisconsin)

gwhinwi
11-05-2015, 10:17 AM
Schlossman's in the GF Herald on the fall of the Badger's hockey program, agree or disagree on his takes?


http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-Wisconsin (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-wisconsin)

Pretty hard to argue with most of it (except for the attendance numbers.) They are much worse because the numbers that they used were tickets sold or distributed not people actually in attendance. Outside of that it's a pretty accurate and depressing look at the program for the last few years. (No NCAA tournament wins in 6 years? Man, that's just sad.)

MplsSioux
11-05-2015, 10:19 AM
Pretty hard to argue with most of it (except for the attendance numbers.) They are much worse because the numbers that they used were tickets sold or distributed not people actually in attendance. Outside of that it's a pretty accurate and depressing look at the program for the last few years. (No NCAA tournament wins in 6 years? Man, that's just sad.)

Yeah, I realized it had been bad but when I saw no tournament win in 6 years it blew me away. I hadn't made the connection in recruiting going south with Osiecki leaving the program so that was an interesting point to me.

RedStripes
11-05-2015, 10:42 AM
Schlossman's in the GF Herald on the fall of the Badger's hockey program, agree or disagree on his takes?


http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-Wisconsin (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-wisconsin)

It's dead on.

RedStripes
11-05-2015, 10:46 AM
If memory serves, there was some similar media out of Boston during that trip. Maybe we need to start pulling together what others are saying about the program and forwarding it to JK each week. If the Dept. doesn't want to believe us, maybe hearing it from outsiders would drive something home.

WiscTJK
11-05-2015, 11:31 AM
If memory serves, there was some similar media out of Boston during that trip. Maybe we need to start pulling together what others are saying about the program and forwarding it to JK each week. If the Dept. doesn't want to believe us, maybe hearing it from outsiders would drive something home.

I forwarded the article onto JK.

The article is right on. The assistants since Osiecki have been terrible.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
11-05-2015, 12:30 PM
Since we got Robbie Earl to decommit from Michigan, how many kids have decommited or flat out left UW?

By comparison, how many guys have we gotten to switch commitments?

WiscDC
11-05-2015, 02:01 PM
Since we got Robbie Earl to decommit from Michigan, how many kids have decommited or flat out left UW?

By comparison, how many guys have we gotten to switch commitments?

Wisconsin got Dougherty from OSU. I'm not sure how to count him since Portland got him from UW after 1 year.

Almington
11-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Schlossman's in the GF Herald on the fall of the Badger's hockey program, agree or disagree on his takes?


http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-Wisconsin (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/3876209-mens-hockey-what-happened-wisconsin)
Schlossman eludes to, but doesn't outright say that all of UWs struggles are tied to having Osecki and Patrick leave after the 09-10 season and Eaves bungling the hire of Butters and the permanent promotion of Schuchuk after Butters abruptly left. All of UW's struggles of the past 6 years are tied directly to those hiring decisions.

Recruiting is the lifeblood of a college hockey program, if you don't recruit well you are not going to be successful long term, irrespective of everything else.

Right now The UW hockey program is caught in a vicious cycle. The fans are disillusioned with Eaves and the on-ice product and are staying say in the THOUSANDS. Potential recruits are turned off by Eaves pressure tactics, the on-ice results, and morgue-like atmosphere at the Kohl Center. Top current players are leaving almost as soon as they get a better offer because of the lack of future success in the program from the poor recruiting and the dismal fan attitude.

Until those three groups: the fans, the players, and the recruits begin to believe the success is just a season away at UW, the program is going to continue to degrade.

My real fear is that thing have crossed a point of no return with the fanbase that even a head coaching change isn't going to help (but it will not hurt) enough until some on-ice success is found. Even at the end of Sauer's tenure, he never disillusioned the fanbase the way that Eaves has.

KaMiGo
11-05-2015, 03:58 PM
I updated the spreadsheet with Kunin leaving the program.

I was looking at the College Hockey Inc Commitments Page (http://collegehockeyinc.com/stats/commitments.php) and saw that they have some different dates listed for guys joining the program.

Anyone in the know have any input as to which would be more accurate?

gwhinwi
11-05-2015, 04:03 PM
I was looking at the College Hockey Inc Commitments Page (http://collegehockeyinc.com/stats/commitments.php) and saw that they have some different dates listed for guys joining the program.

Anyone in the know have any input as to which would be more accurate?

I hadn't seen that page.

I put the spreadsheet together based on the last document that I saw on here. I'll try to do some updating.

Thanks for the info!

Wisko McBadgerton
11-05-2015, 04:41 PM
I wouldn't go too crazy with what they have. Wisconsin is FINALLY getting back into a position where they have some kids in the pipeline with some flexibility. This hasn't been the case at all really in the last five years. There's a lot of decisions on players coming at the end of this year I'd think.

gwhinwi
11-05-2015, 04:56 PM
I wouldn't go too crazy with what they have. Wisconsin is FINALLY getting back into a position where they have some kids in the pipeline with some flexibility. This hasn't been the case at all really in the last five years. There's a lot of decisions on players coming at the end of this year I'd think.

Yeah, with their sheet they would have 23 Forwards in the 2017-18 season and that just seems a bit off.

Timothy A
11-05-2015, 07:40 PM
I hadn't seen that page.

I put the spreadsheet together based on the last document that I saw on here. I'll try to do some updating.

Thanks for the info!

There's also collegecommitments.com to get info off of, but I cannot speak of it's accuracy.

gwhinwi
11-05-2015, 07:52 PM
There's also collegecommitments.com to get info off of, but I cannot speak of it's accuracy.

That looks to be the same page, just under a different URL. Thanks, though.

J.D.
11-05-2015, 07:54 PM
Google chris heisenberg hockey recruits...guy does a pretty good job