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Shotblocker
03-24-2015, 05:53 PM
Team sports in the Olympics makes NO sense!! First, the best players? No doubt they are great but the best? How is that determined and by whom? Fact is there's no money in women's hockey, not like men's!* So, if you have an angle or name that draws crowds and are great you are in. But the best? Maybe one of the best. Unlike Swimming, archery, running and so on everybody knows, can see, there's data, numbers! How is it that you can have a list of Kaz and not all of them realistically considered for the team?, let alone the absolute ridiculousness of keeping players there for multiple years with out disclosure?
I'm not saying that any of the past players aren't worthy but, if you think that the current admistrations claim of transparency is a joke, they have nothing on USA Hockey. I feel bad for the future generations of hopefuls as its a bit of a scam and no one will talk about it.
I can a little, as I have played at almost every level and have observed the hypocrisy and amazement.

Eeyore
03-24-2015, 05:59 PM
. . . I have been played at almost every level . . .

Of this I have no doubt.

pokechecker
03-25-2015, 07:44 AM
First, the best players? No doubt they are great but the best? How is that determined and by whom?

The last Olympic coach said she didn't want the best, she wanted the best team players (or maybe it was for her team, I'm not going to waste time looking up the exact quote, we all know how that worked out for her.).
What a slap in the face to those she passed over.
You are a talented hockey player, but are lacking in the skills required to play well with others.

UCONN FAN
03-25-2015, 10:58 AM
of this i have no doubt.

:d

OnMAA
03-25-2015, 01:49 PM
Of this I have no doubt.

This :D

FiveHoleFrenzy
03-25-2015, 03:01 PM
Of this I have no doubt.

And in an attempt to be fair y'all know what was meant...But it still came out quite funny. :D

D2D
03-25-2015, 03:58 PM
And in an attempt to be fair y'all know what was meant...
Actually, no.

FiveHoleFrenzy
03-25-2015, 05:12 PM
Actually, no.

This from shotblocker..."I can a little, as I have been played at almost every level and have observed the hypocrisy and amazement"


which was quoted by Eeyore originally and commented on by him. From that you don't know what was meant?

D2D
03-25-2015, 07:01 PM
This from shotblocker..."I can a little, as I have been played at almost every level and have observed the hypocrisy and amazement"


which was quoted by Eeyore originally and commented on by him. From that you don't know what was meant?
Yeah I got that but I was referring to the entirety of the original post, which didn't make much sense.

LtPowers
03-25-2015, 08:09 PM
Team sports in the Olympics makes NO sense!! First, the best players? No doubt they are great but the best? How is that determined and by whom? Fact is there's no money in women's hockey, not like men's!* So, if you have an angle or name that draws crowds and are great you are in. But the best? Maybe one of the best. Unlike Swimming, archery, running and so on everybody knows, can see, there's data, numbers! How is it that you can have a list of Kaz and not all of them realistically considered for the team?, let alone the absolute ridiculousness of keeping players there for multiple years with out disclosure?
I'm not saying that any of the past players aren't worthy but, if you think that the current admistrations claim of transparency is a joke, they have nothing on USA Hockey. I feel bad for the future generations of hopefuls as its a bit of a scam and no one will talk about it.
I can a little, as I have played at almost every level and have observed the hypocrisy and amazement.

In team sports, one is attempting to assemble the best team, which doesn't necessarily comprise the 23 best players. Trivially, for example, if you've already got three goalies you don't need a fourth, even if she's better than all of the defensemen available.


Powers &8^]

pokechecker
03-26-2015, 07:40 AM
In team sports, one is attempting to assemble the best team, which doesn't necessarily comprise the 23 best players. Trivially, for example, if you've already got three goalies you don't need a fourth, even if she's better than all of the defensemen available.


Powers &8^]

well it's obvious she didn't assemble the best team ;)

to pass over the best rookie in 2012/13 and the one that eventually became the best in 2013/14 (and outscored the player she did keep by a wide margin this year)
and lead their team to this years NCAA championship, not to mention one was the 2nd leading scorer on the team that won in 2012/13

if you are trying to put together a winning team, it seems to me you start by picking people who have won & excelled at every level

FiveHoleFrenzy
03-26-2015, 08:44 AM
Yeah I got that but I was referring to the entirety of the original post, which didn't make much sense.

It confused me that you quoted my response which was specifically about the phrase "been played" in the poster's sentence (Which shotblocker now edited), not the whole post. But then again, I get confused easily so it's all good. :)

LtPowers
03-26-2015, 10:33 AM
if you are trying to put together a winning team, it seems to me you start by picking people who have won & excelled at every level

I suspect you have a biased rooting interest here. It should go without saying, but you can't just look at stats and records when assembling a team and assume the chemistry will follow.


Powers &8^]

pokechecker
03-26-2015, 11:59 AM
I suspect you have a biased rooting interest here. It should go without saying, but you can't just look at stats and records when assembling a team and assume the chemistry will follow.


Powers &8^]

that is true
but that's not what I said
"someone who has won at every level" (and wasn't the goal to win?)
"excelled at every level" (quite different than merely accumulating impressive stats)

I may be biased, but I am not blind. :D

Shotblocker
03-26-2015, 05:35 PM
In team sports, one is attempting to assemble the best team, which doesn't necessarily comprise the 23 best players. Trivially, for example, if you've already got three goalies you don't need a fourth, even if she's better than all of the defensemen available.


Powers &8^]

I agree, but that has NEVER been a part of the Olympics until recent. When I was young and played high school, it was interesting that there were teams out here in California that we played that were not governed by a distric, town or city but rather a religion! We played St John Bosco who could pull from ALL the surrounding catholic schools, they won most of the time but not always! That's how I see team sports in the olympics.