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Shirtless Guy
04-09-2015, 11:59 AM
Being the new guy around here, I would really like to say something positive once in a while. But these two quotes from Eaves in the news article are funny.

"I’ve not heard any of this venom,” he said, leaning back in his chair. “Nobody’s come up to me and shared this venom with me. I would love the opportunity to hear some of it."
then later in the article:

Eaves said there’s nothing he can do about those angry voices, so he tunes them out.

Hmmmmthat 2nd quote was about the angry voices over him firing his assistants, at least that's how I took it.

RedStripes
04-09-2015, 12:04 PM
Fair enough. I read it more broadly the first time through.

TUSCHWI
04-09-2015, 12:28 PM
Chuck's article is both incredibly brutal and incredibly honest in the recruiting woes breakdown. Is Eaves living in 2003? This is another reason for him to be canned, if he is not keeping up with the times, especially in recruiting (and scoring goals [though that was always a problem given his system]) then UW needs someone who is on top of his game. This would be like me ignoring all my clients at my job, if I do that someone else is talking to them and pretty soon I have no more clients, no more work and likely no more job. The name and tradition of Wisconsin is not enough, and if Eaves doesn't realize that, he should go find some midget team to coach somewhere.

I was pretty set on actually renewing my friday night tix yesterday, but now I'm ****ed again and that is in doubt.

Wow. I agree with Gandalf 100%. I'm ********ng ****ed off again. Great articles by the way too. Honest, brutal but honest. After reading them, I do not see how BA could keep Eaves. The Boeser fiasco is mind-boggling, especially when he was playing in Madison. How they could not have someone there to show him and his family some love is beyond me. An assistant, maybe a cute co-ed or grad assistant..I'm not saying go all Tennessee on him (or whatever school had the special "female co-ed recruiting squad") but for christ sake, at least show some interest and reinforce that his time here in Madison will be fantastic.

Timothy A
04-09-2015, 01:40 PM
“It was a successful failure because this ship was held together, and guys continued to improve and grow as people and as hockey players.”

Read more: http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/andy-baggot-the-dismissals-of-assistants-matt-walsh-and-gary/article_4694a9a3-ac90-5f8c-8613-369f0338300a.html#ixzz3WpoXPP1u

I'm not sure any sane person would ever call a failure a success.....by definition a failure will never be a success unless you it was your plan to fail.

markwojo
04-09-2015, 02:06 PM
Eavisms have grown very old. Climbing the mountain or putting hay in the barn used to be mildly amusing.

Wisko McBadgerton
04-09-2015, 02:48 PM
The Boeser fiasco is mind-boggling, especially when he was playing in Madison. How they could not have someone there to show him and his family some love is beyond me.

I don't know... much has been made of that weekend, but Boeser made his decision public the following week. Without more specific information it seems pretty likely that the book was closed on Boeser before he played in Madison, either from the Badger's side of things, or more likely, Boeser's side. If Boeser's side, it wouldn't be surprising that UW was aware of it, given the fact that Dan Boeser played for Eaves. Boeser is making a life changing decision and it doesn't seem logical at all to me that weekend had anything to do with it. (i.e. Boeser thinking "They didn't come to my game! Screw them, I'm going to UND!" He's young, but he's not 12.) It does seem logical that the decision regarding his playing in Madison from one side or both was made prior to that and announced the following week.

Chuck Schwartz
04-09-2015, 02:52 PM
I don't know... much has been made of that weekend, but Boeser made his decision public the following week. Without more specific information it seems pretty likely that the book was closed on Boeser before he played in Madison, either from the Badger's side of things, or more likely, Boeser's side. If Boeser's side, it wouldn't be surprising that UW was aware of it, given the fact that Dan Boeser played for Eaves. Boeser is making a life changing decision and it doesn't seem logical at all to me that weekend had anything to do with it. (i.e. Boeser thinking "They didn't come to my game! Screw them, I'm going to UND!" He's young, but he's not 12.) It does seem logical that the decision regarding his playing in Madison from one side or both was made prior to that and announced the following week.

None of this is accurate.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-09-2015, 02:58 PM
None of this is accurate.

Holy ****, Boeser is 12? That would make him the Doogie Howser of hockey.

In all seriousness, I have to agree that it's much more plausible that no one coming to see him at the Coliseum was the straw that broke the camel's back than it is to think that it had little to nothing to do with it because he had to have made up his mind previously. Or that it's immature to think that it might have soured him on UW.

Chuck Schwartz
04-09-2015, 03:06 PM
Holy ****, Boeser is 12? That would make him the Doogie Howser of hockey.

In all seriousness, I have to agree that it's much more plausible that no one coming to see him at the Coliseum was the straw that broke the camel's back than it is to think that it had little to nothing to do with it because he had to have made up his mind previously. Or that it's immature to think that it might have soured him on UW.

I don't know the extent of the effects, but I know he had not made a final decision

Shirtless Guy
04-09-2015, 03:14 PM
I don't know the extent of the effects, but I know he had not made a final decision

He had not ruled out Wisconsin at that point?

Timothy A
04-09-2015, 03:48 PM
I don't know the extent of the effects, but I know he had not made a final decision

But he did de-commit, so what were the odds that a full court press after the de-commit would have re-secured his services? I think it was not likely as one would have thought it would take ALOT of negativity to have him jump ship to begin with. (and of course the negativity is the 100% fault of the staff). I think at the point of the game at the Caps game it was all but too late to fix the situation. Did he actually sign on the dotted line with the sue or can UW steal him back with a new recruiting guru?

Chuck Schwartz
04-09-2015, 04:06 PM
It's a bit of a conflict interest for me to answer some of these questions. I've probably said what I can and more already.

WiscTJK
04-09-2015, 04:31 PM
It's a bit of a conflict interest for me to answer some of these questions. I've probably said what I can and more already.

Understand, you can't jeopardize your job.

What's so surprising is that there must be alumni, boosters, hockey insiders, and those in the athletic department that know this, and they still didn't make a head coaching change. It has to be they don't want to buy out Eaves contract. It is a big mistake to save pennies to pay dimes later with additional lost gate revenue. I just don't get it.

solovsfett
04-09-2015, 07:01 PM
After reading both Chuck/Andy's excellent write-up and Andy B's I'm even more ****ed that Eaves was retained.

"I told him that some alums were mocking his 13-year tenure — which includes an NCAA title in 2006 and a runner-up finish in 2010 — and some were going so far as to nudge elite recruits elsewhere."

ok, I don't know what's more shocking, the constant ****-ups on the recruiting trail (and let's not kid ourselves that not sending a coach to watch and talk to Boeser didn't close the book, if the book was closed prior to that weekend the kid would have announced sooner) or the fact there are UW alums steering recruits to other schools. HOLY ****!!!! Are you serious? I actually think that 2nd fact alone should be enough to insure Eaves' fate. You cannot absolutely CANNOT have ex-players steering kids away from your school. What message does that send? How could you EVER clear such a drastic hurdle?

How Eaves doesn't get fired due to the above points is beyond me. How does UW win right now with recruiting? They cannot. I'm sure most kids are aware his job is in jeopardy so why visit? They have 0 clue who they'll be playing for ultimately because if Eaves musters 12 wins only he's probably gone. I think he needs 20+ and an NCAA bid to save his job (that is of course if Barry "I'm not a hockey guy" Alvarez does HIS own AD job with any semblance of competence) but even then, the stench from the past season and the perpetual up's and down's of this program under Eaves have to have kids wondering why they'd choose Wisconsin.

I cannot believe what has transpired in the past season and I'm ****ed off and saddened beyond belief. Wisconsin hockey is now a once-was sport, pure and simple. Anyone (mcbadgerton I'm looking at you) who thinks this program is on any kind of footing to compete against teams #11-50 right now are fooling themselves. Forget about Top 10, they have to actually crack the Top ****ing 50 first...ya know? Climb that mountain, whatever.

Fire Eaves, just do it Barry or the Kohl Center on hockey nights will have less than 7k per game next year.

Almington
04-09-2015, 07:11 PM
He had not ruled out Wisconsin at that point?

Does it really matter? The fact that UW didn't even appear to try by just showing up is disgraceful and pathetic.

Wisko McBadgerton
04-09-2015, 08:21 PM
Holy ****, Boeser is 12? That would make him the Doogie Howser of hockey.

In all seriousness, I have to agree that it's much more plausible that no one coming to see him at the Coliseum was the straw that broke the camel's back

It's possible he's 12 I suppose. As I doubt being in 6th grade actually disqualifies a kid from playing for the Nodak's.

As to the rest, if you're saying that straw moved him from 98% to 100% not going to UW, then I guess that's plausible. Is it the reason he's not coming to UW? No.

Gandalf the Red
04-09-2015, 10:20 PM
Being the new guy around here, I would really like to say something positive once in a while. But these two quotes from Eaves in the news article are funny.

"I’ve not heard any of this venom,” he said, leaning back in his chair. “Nobody’s come up to me and shared this venom with me. I would love the opportunity to hear some of it."
then later in the article:

Eaves said there’s nothing he can do about those angry voices, so he tunes them out.

Hmmmm

Even if the two quotes are not related (as Shirtless Guy suggested), the fact that he denies hearing "any of this venom" changes my mind on Eaves. He shouldn't be fired, he should be committed to a mental hospital because he is bat sh*t crazy and completely delusional about the situation.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-09-2015, 10:26 PM
"I told him that some alums were mocking his 13-year tenure — which includes an NCAA title in 2006 and a runner-up finish in 2010 — and some were going so far as to nudge elite recruits elsewhere."

Holy hell. I had only read Chuck's article.

But now I'm reading this and I just don't know how to process this.

How can this possibly be allowed to stand?

I'm officially done spending money on UW athletics. If I could ask for BTN-free cable right now (AKA if such a thing existed legally right now), I would.

Eaves needs to be gone, and probably Alvarez too, before I come back.

bucky15
04-10-2015, 08:26 AM
I went from attending 15-20 home games in 2010 to 1 last year to 0 next year.

BA and Eaves, are steering the UW program into what will be looked back on as the dark period. What is the realistic over/under for wins next season? 10? Mich St and Penn St are not the for sure wins that we thought they would be when the B1G started. Realistically, what would be a successful season 15 wins?

The most pathetic stat of the season (that I feel doesn't get brought up enough) is that this team only scored 59 goals. That ties the NCAA record for most scored by ONE individual. That falls on Eaves, his style, his lack of scouting of players and his recruiting tactics.

He canned the two asst's that he hired. Bad hires by a coach who appears to have lost his touch with the current state of college hockey....or people are finally figuring out who/what he is.

bucky15
04-10-2015, 09:59 AM
I just read Andy Baggot's article. Has Eaves lost his mind? He likened the season to a space mission?!?!?!?

Some crazy mission leading puppies on a ship across an ocean with space debris falling from the sky....when you finally land you have to climb a huge mountain with puppies that have to pee and poop every hour. No wonder they only won 4 games.

When I read the words "Apollo 13" in this UW hockey article I almost spit my coffee out from laughter.