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JB
03-31-2015, 04:25 PM
UNH lines:

I think first you have to look at the system and structure. Like it or not there is a defensive focus UNH has had since the 98-99 season. Before 98-99 there was some serious run and gun hockey going on, fun to watch.

Now this is from memory watching the games but I think part of the second half was getting a set of lines that fit the structure and could generate a forecheck. I looked at some line charts on Hockey East online and those charts seem to say what I remember might be B.S. or a slight system change not as much the lines. What I recall is the centers playing more time high in the offensive zone and deep in the defensive zone early in the year. Second half if Downing went in offensively Thrush would rotate high in the zone and then play behind the net if the play transitioned, same with Poturalski and Correale. This allowed those two lines to provide a more consistent forecheck while still having the 3rd man on defense.

So I look at the line up with this in mind. You need forward lines with at least one wing that can go in the corners and do some dirty work and is also defensively responsible to help the center. With that in mind I am not sure:

Blackburn - Poturalski – Kelleher

will work as a line. Doing this will force Poturalski to stay high in the zone and will really diminish the forecheck pressure as I don’t think Umile will trust Kelleher or Blackburn to play low if the puck transitions. Also who does the dirty work in the corners? I like Poturalski & Kelleher together and need a dirty work defensively responsible player to compliment and think that leaves me Correale or MacDonald or maybe Gaudreault.

Same thinking as I liked Foegele and Eiserman together. Eiserman made space and I hope Foegele develops into a scorer. Now I need a play maker to go with them at center. My understanding is Blackburn is a center so maybe later in the year. But I might try McNicholas.

Using that thinking I would look at:

Correale - Poturalski – Kelleher
Foegele – McNicholas – Eiserman
Blackburn – Smith – Hill
Salvaggio – Gaudreault- Vela

Lastly I think you have to throw some players in the fire. You are going to lose a bunch of games early until the Freshman come up to speed. If you are going to lose anyway at least get some growth out of it.

Umile has always been too loyal to upper class players. I think some of that cost UNH a shot at high end players as they want/need to play out of the gate. It is also why the typical UNH season starts fast and finishes slow. Early other teams are taking lumps getting the talented Freshman time and later they are reaping what was sown early. Next year needs to be another growth year.

Chuck Murray
03-31-2015, 05:16 PM
Skipped a day and look at what I missed. :eek: Best quality speculation AND insight (hard sometimes to tell which is which) posted on here in a LONG time. Continue, please. :)

JB
03-31-2015, 07:19 PM
Skipped a day and look at what I missed. :eek: Best quality speculation AND insight (hard sometimes to tell which is which) posted on here in a LONG time. Continue, please. :)

It has been awhile for good stuff hasn't it.

Snively65
03-31-2015, 10:17 PM
UNH lines:

I think first you have to look at the system and structure. Like it or not there is a defensive focus UNH has had since the 98-99 season. Before 98-99 there was some serious run and gun hockey going on, fun to watch.

Now this is from memory watching the games but I think part of the second half was getting a set of lines that fit the structure and could generate a forecheck. I looked at some line charts on Hockey East online and those charts seem to say what I remember might be B.S. or a slight system change not as much the lines. What I recall is the centers playing more time high in the offensive zone and deep in the defensive zone early in the year. Second half if Downing went in offensively Thrush would rotate high in the zone and then play behind the net if the play transitioned, same with Poturalski and Correale. This allowed those two lines to provide a more consistent forecheck while still having the 3rd man on defense.

So I look at the line up with this in mind. You need forward lines with at least one wing that can go in the corners and do some dirty work and is also defensively responsible to help the center. With that in mind I am not sure:

Blackburn - Poturalski – Kelleher

will work as a line. Doing this will force Poturalski to stay high in the zone and will really diminish the forecheck pressure as I don’t think Umile will trust Kelleher or Blackburn to play low if the puck transitions. Also who does the dirty work in the corners? I like Poturalski & Kelleher together and need a dirty work defensively responsible player to compliment and think that leaves me Correale or MacDonald or maybe Gaudreault.

Same thinking as I liked Foegele and Eiserman together. Eiserman made space and I hope Foegele develops into a scorer. Now I need a play maker to go with them at center. My understanding is Blackburn is a center so maybe later in the year. But I might try McNicholas.

Using that thinking I would look at:

Correale - Poturalski – Kelleher
Foegele – McNicholas – Eiserman
Blackburn – Smith – Hill
Salvaggio – Gaudreault- Vela

Lastly I think you have to throw some players in the fire. You are going to lose a bunch of games early until the Freshman come up to speed. If you are going to lose anyway at least get some growth out of it.

Umile has always been too loyal to upper class players. I think some of that cost UNH a shot at high end players as they want/need to play out of the gate. It is also why the typical UNH season starts fast and finishes slow. Early other teams are taking lumps getting the talented Freshman time and later they are reaping what was sown early. Next year needs to be another growth year.

Very astute post, JB. I like the idea of having Correale on the first line to create some space for Poturalski, and also allow Kelleher to use his speed to shake loose from defenders. I agree that the challenge will be finding a center for Foegele and Eiserman on the second line early on.

NCAA watcher
04-01-2015, 11:07 AM
Stuck on train with phone battery dying, so I sketched out on pad the UNH rosters already in place for the next years. This is the crew that Umile will finish his career with. At this point the recruiting is mainly for 2018 and later.
-----------------
2015-16
So. Eiserman - So. Poturalski - Jr.Kelleher
So.Foegele -- So.McNicholas - Sr.Correale
Sr.Smith---Fr.Blackburn -- Fr.Vela
Fr.BVR --So.Salvaggio -- Sr.Gaudreault
Fr.Kalinowski -- Sr.Hill -- Sr.MacDonald
Jr.Bourque - Fr.Miller
D
Jr.Cleland -- Fr.Masonius
Jr.Maller --- So.Marks
So.Furgele -- Sr.Quast
So.Chanter --So.Boyd

2016-17
Jr. Eiserman - Jr. Poturalski - Sr.Kelleher
Jr.Foegele -- So.Blackburn -- So.Vela
Fr.Nazarian--Jr.McNicholas - Fr.Fregona
So.BVR --Jr.Salvaggio -- Fr.C.Kelleher
So.Kalinowski --Fr.Grasso- So.Miller
Sr.Bourque -- Fr.Cefalu

D
Sr.Cleland -- So.Masonius
Sr.Maller --- Jr.Marks
Jr.Furgele -- Jr.Chanter
Jr.Boyd -- Fr.Darcy
Fr.Nonis

2017-18
Sr. Eiserman - Sr. Poturalski -- Jr.Vela
Sr.Foegele -- Jr.Blackburn - So.Fregona
So.Nazarian--Sr.McNicholas -- So.C.Kelleher
Jr.BVR --Sr.Salvaggio --So.Grasso
Jr.Kalinowski - Fr.Cipollone -- Fr.J.O'Neill
So.Cefalu---Jr.Miller -- Fr.A.O'Neill

D
Fr.Ryczek -- Jr.Masonius
Fr. _______--- Sr.Marks
Sr.Furgele -- Sr.Chanter
Sr.Boyd -- So.Darcy
So.Nonis

2018-19
Jr.Nazarian -- Sr.Blackburn - Sr.Vela
Sr.BVR- Jr.C.Kelleher--Jr.Fregona
Fr.Farabee-- So.J.O'Neill --Jr.Grasso
Fr.____ -So.Cipollone-- Fr.Esposito
Sr.Kalinowski--Sr.Miller -- So.A.O'Neill
Jr.Cefalu-

D
So.Ryczek -- Sr.Masonius
So. _______--- Fr.____
Jr.Darcy---- Fr._____
Fr.______ ---Jr.Nonis

chickod
04-01-2015, 11:18 AM
Stuck on train

C'mon...really? Keolis runs the finest transportation system in North America... :D

JB
04-01-2015, 12:46 PM
Is there are way to "rate" these players based on there skill set? Including where they should project on a NCAA tournament team?

I am thinking a table - clueless how to post here. Categories Scorer, Assist Guy, Space Maker, Grinder, Defensive Specialist & Projection (Top 6, Bottom 6, Bench Warmer)

Eiserman he is not likely to be a top end assist guy or scorer. However he is still a top 6 forward based on speed and size - Space Making.

Poturalski is a assist guy that can finish, Top 6

Kelleher is a finisher, Top 6

Blackburn is an assist guy, Top 6

Gaudreault is a grinder, Bottom 6

Add in natural position.

A summary table, subjective yes but could lead to some interesting discussion. I think we will see too many grinders and space makers not nearly enough finishers.

e.cat
04-01-2015, 06:44 PM
Stuck on train with phone battery dying, so I sketched out on pad the UNH rosters already in place for the next years. This is the crew that Umile will finish his career with. At this point the recruiting is mainly for 2018 and later.
-----------------
2015-16
So. Eiserman - So. Poturalski - Jr.Kelleher
So.Foegele -- So.McNicholas - Sr.Correale
Sr.Smith---Fr.Blackburn -- Fr.Vela
Fr.BVR --So.Salvaggio -- Sr.Gaudreault
Fr.Kalinowski -- Sr.Hill -- Sr.MacDonald
Jr.Bourque - Fr.Miller
D
Jr.Cleland -- Fr.Masonius
Jr.Maller --- So.Marks
So.Furgele -- Sr.Quast
So.Chanter --So.Boyd

2016-17
Jr. Eiserman - Jr. Poturalski - Sr.Kelleher
Jr.Foegele -- So.Blackburn -- So.Vela
Fr.Nazarian--Jr.McNicholas - Fr.Fregona
So.BVR --Jr.Salvaggio -- Fr.C.Kelleher
So.Kalinowski --Fr.Grasso- So.Miller
Sr.Bourque -- Fr.Cefalu

D
Sr.Cleland -- So.Masonius
Sr.Maller --- Jr.Marks
Jr.Furgele -- Jr.Chanter
Jr.Boyd -- Fr.Darcy
Fr.Nonis

2017-18
Sr. Eiserman - Sr. Poturalski -- Jr.Vela
Sr.Foegele -- Jr.Blackburn - So.Fregona
So.Nazarian--Sr.McNicholas -- So.C.Kelleher
Jr.BVR --Sr.Salvaggio --So.Grasso
Jr.Kalinowski - Fr.Cipollone -- Fr.J.O'Neill
So.Cefalu---Jr.Miller -- Fr.A.O'Neill

D
Fr.Ryczek -- Jr.Masonius
Fr. _______--- Sr.Marks
Sr.Furgele -- Sr.Chanter
Sr.Boyd -- So.Darcy
So.Nonis

2018-19
Jr.Nazarian -- Sr.Blackburn - Sr.Vela
Sr.BVR- Jr.C.Kelleher--Jr.Fregona
Fr.Farabee-- So.J.O'Neill --Jr.Grasso
Fr.____ -So.Cipollone-- Fr.Esposito
Sr.Kalinowski--Sr.Miller -- So.A.O'Neill
Jr.Cefalu-

D
So.Ryczek -- Sr.Masonius
So. _______--- Fr.____
Jr.Darcy---- Fr._____
Fr.______ ---Jr.Nonis

Thats good stuff watcher from you and JB. My concern is, who will be leaving early from this crowd?

wildcatdc
04-01-2015, 07:10 PM
Stuck on train with phone battery dying, so I sketched out on pad the UNH rosters already in place for the next years. This is the crew that Umile will finish his career with. At this point the recruiting is mainly for 2018 and later.
-----------------
2015-16
So. Eiserman - So. Poturalski - Jr.Kelleher
So.Foegele -- So.McNicholas - Sr.Correale
Sr.Smith---Fr.Blackburn -- Fr.Vela
Fr.BVR --So.Salvaggio -- Sr.Gaudreault
Fr.Kalinowski -- Sr.Hill -- Sr.MacDonald
Jr.Bourque - Fr.Miller
D
Jr.Cleland -- Fr.Masonius
Jr.Maller --- So.Marks
So.Furgele -- Sr.Quast
So.Chanter --So.Boyd

2016-17
Jr. Eiserman - Jr. Poturalski - Sr.Kelleher
Jr.Foegele -- So.Blackburn -- So.Vela
Fr.Nazarian--Jr.McNicholas - Fr.Fregona
So.BVR --Jr.Salvaggio -- Fr.C.Kelleher
So.Kalinowski --Fr.Grasso- So.Miller
Sr.Bourque -- Fr.Cefalu

D
Sr.Cleland -- So.Masonius
Sr.Maller --- Jr.Marks
Jr.Furgele -- Jr.Chanter
Jr.Boyd -- Fr.Darcy
Fr.Nonis

2017-18
Sr. Eiserman - Sr. Poturalski -- Jr.Vela
Sr.Foegele -- Jr.Blackburn - So.Fregona
So.Nazarian--Sr.McNicholas -- So.C.Kelleher
Jr.BVR --Sr.Salvaggio --So.Grasso
Jr.Kalinowski - Fr.Cipollone -- Fr.J.O'Neill
So.Cefalu---Jr.Miller -- Fr.A.O'Neill

D
Fr.Ryczek -- Jr.Masonius
Fr. _______--- Sr.Marks
Sr.Furgele -- Sr.Chanter
Sr.Boyd -- So.Darcy
So.Nonis

2018-19
Jr.Nazarian -- Sr.Blackburn - Sr.Vela
Sr.BVR- Jr.C.Kelleher--Jr.Fregona
Fr.Farabee-- So.J.O'Neill --Jr.Grasso
Fr.____ -So.Cipollone-- Fr.Esposito
Sr.Kalinowski--Sr.Miller -- So.A.O'Neill
Jr.Cefalu-

D
So.Ryczek -- Sr.Masonius
So. _______--- Fr.____
Jr.Darcy---- Fr._____
Fr.______ ---Jr.Nonis

When's the last time we even had the possibility of keeping our first two lines (forwards and blue liners) together two years in a row?

Seems like a nice situation to be in.

HockeyRef
04-01-2015, 09:35 PM
NEWS FLASH! Willows continues to kill it in Worcester...4 points in 3 games...scores tying goal tonight...super amateur video by yours truly :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYXmNgHHTU

Snively65
04-02-2015, 05:13 PM
Bump, just in case anyone missed this run of Willows in his pro debut.

HockeyRef
04-02-2015, 05:22 PM
Bump, just in case anyone missed this run of Willows in his pro debut.

Annnnnddd our Danny Tirone was named "STOP IT GOALTENDER OF THE MONTH" by Hockey East! Good stuff...

HockeyRef
04-02-2015, 05:47 PM
Bump, just in case anyone missed this run of Willows in his pro debut.

The announcer was so surprised this goal went in...but hey, a goal is a goal! He and Unions Daniel Ciampini are doing very well in their rookie debuts! BTW if you do play the vid do it twice; it loads up weird...need lessons from the pro C-H-C!!! :D

FWIW dept: pulling for Zane McIntyre for the Hobey...

HockeyRef
04-02-2015, 06:47 PM
Article about Brett Pesce and his adjustment to the pro's:

http://www.gocheckers.com/articles/1162-brett-pesce-follows-path-to-pro-debut

HockeyRef
04-04-2015, 07:52 AM
Poor TvR can't catch a break...he hurt his wrist in a recent game, surgery Tuesday, out for 8 weeks...tough first year for him!

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/04/03/blackhawks-trevor-van-riemsdyk-out-for-wrist-surgery/

Snively65
04-04-2015, 08:25 AM
Poor TvR can't catch a break...he hurt his wrist in a recent game, surgery Tuesday, out for 8 weeks...tough first year for him!

At least TVR got paid for his injuries this year. I am sure that Brett Pesce was paying attention to TVR's injuries, both during his last year at UNH and his first year as a pro.

And, speaking of UNH alums, Chara sent Trevor Smith to locker room with blood streaming from his head early in the Bs last game at the Garden for this season. JvR's line with Kessel and Bozak has the worst +/- in the NHL.

EDIT: JvR ties up game 1-1 with his 26th goal of season.

Chuck Murray
04-05-2015, 02:00 PM
When do we find out who next year's captains will be? And whether or not all of Coach Umile's staff will be returning for next season?

It's going to be a looooooooong six months before we get the season started again.

Snively65
04-05-2015, 02:30 PM
When do we find out who next year's captains will be? And whether or not all of Coach Umile's staff will be returning for next season?

It's going to be a looooooooong six months before we get the season started again.

And, why no inklings yet about OOC games for next season, other than Dartmouth, of course?

Felger
04-05-2015, 02:55 PM
And, why no inklings yet about OOC games for next season, other than Dartmouth, of course?

Saw Clarkson mentioned on the schedules thread, but that's all so far.

Unrelated subject, but is Blasi or Hakstol the new Umile?

Snively65
04-05-2015, 03:12 PM
Saw Clarkson mentioned on the schedules thread, but that's all so far.

Unrelated subject, but is Blasi or Hakstol the new Umile?

So, how many FFs without a NC does each have?

Maybe St Lawrence also, as they are travel partners with Clarkson.

Also unrelated, Downing recorded 2 SOG in his first game with the Iowa Wild.