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slowe
03-11-2015, 10:13 PM
It's not even the off season and yet it's time to let the speculation begin. The article has a fair amount of baseless enthusiasm about several possibilities. I've pulled out what I felt were a few more interesting quotes.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/296003651.html

"At least three Big Ten schools are considering, quietly in most cases, adding hockey, and the conference has had talks with Arizona State about a hockey-only alliance."

“What has been most exciting is, since the Arizona State announcement, the number of people that have contacted us … about what needs to be done to have [hockey] happen at ‘our school,’ ” said Mike Snee, executive director of College Hockey Inc., a company funded by USA Hockey and a grant from the NHL with a mission to promote the sport. “There is enough percolating out there to keep us motivated and believing that we can make this contagious if it isn’t already.”

"A source told the Star Tribune multiple Big Ten schools are quietly exploring adding the sport."

“I think being in a conference with like institutions is important,” Heppel said. “[Arizona State] is going to have to think about that from an institutional and sport perspective. The Big Ten and Pac-12 have a historic relationship."

"Battista would not comment on talks he has had, honoring the discretion of such a process, but he did say at least four schools are very close to making a decision on whether to add the sport."

Spartanforlife4
03-11-2015, 10:41 PM
If I had to guess, I would go with Nebraska and Illinois as two for sure schools. The third, I'm not sure. Iowa? Hockey seems popular there but they currently play at a mall. Northwestern? Big private money but Chicago seems dead for college hockey. Indiana? Cuban could donate some big bucks but Im not sure now big hockey is there.

Really outside of UNL and Illinois I can't think of another.

The Rube
03-11-2015, 10:46 PM
http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/business/coralville-eyeing-possible-7000-seat-area-for-iowa-river-landing-20150311

No more mall hockey for U of Iowa?

brassbonanza
03-11-2015, 11:04 PM
A 7K arena 1.5 miles from campus? Hmm. IU and/or Purdue would probably also be candidates.

Red Cows
03-11-2015, 11:33 PM
If I had to guess, I would go with Nebraska and Illinois as two for sure schools. The third, I'm not sure. Iowa? Hockey seems popular there but they currently play at a mall. Northwestern? Big private money but Chicago seems dead for college hockey. Indiana? Cuban could donate some big bucks but Im not sure now big hockey is there.

Really outside of UNL and Illinois I can't think of another.

And, as I have pointed out in other threads on this topic, the University of Nebraska, at a point in the construction where they could still make the addition, added the necessary piping for ice making at Pinnacle Bank Arena, the construction of which was completed in time for last year's basketball season:

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2013/06/04/Facilities/Pinnacle-Bank-Arena.aspx

And, on just this past December 12th, the university began construction of the Breslow Center Ice Arena, right next door to Pinnacle Bank Center in Lincoln:

http://facilities.unl.edu/projects/john-breslow-ice-hockey-arena

So, the Huskers can play in Pinnacle Bank Arena, where I would guess they would rival North Dakota right out of the box in average attendance, and practice right next door at the Breslow Center, since Pinnacle Bank Arena is a multipurpose facility, as the basketball team also plays there and concerts are held there. And, they have built-in rival 50 miles away in Omaha.

UNL AD Shawn Eichorst has given some lip service to there not being any plans for Husker Hockey in the foreseeable future. He also said this not long after he took the AD job and I wonder if really understands that this is not going to be up to him, really, on any level. If the right boosters want this to happen, its happening whether Shawn Eichorst likes it not, He is the tail, not the dog down there. Money talks and Shawn Eichorst is going to do what it tells him do.

Think Huskerfan has not noticed the magnificent new edifice that UNO is nearing completion of in Aksarben Village in Omaha? Or that, try as they might, they are never going to be a basketball power in men's basketball no matter what they do?

Think Huskerfan doesn't know that the Big 10 Hockey Conference, at 6 teams, doesn't "work"?

I think UNL playing Big 10 hockey is inevitable and I think Huskerbooster movers and shakers are having p*nis envy now that they are getting a look at what UNO is up to and I think this may very well move this along faster than I thought it might. The article link posted above in an earlier post seems to buttress that thinking.

The University of Nebraska has removed one of the giant hurdles to doing this. The necessary facilities. That is the single most expensive facet of this for any school.

The next roadblock for Nebraska is Title IX. UNL is already upside down on men's vs. women's scholarships. My guess (just my gut feel and not really based on anything I have heard) is that they will add womens' hockey as well, since that would make the whole undertaking apples-to-apples.

And, dollars and cents are not an issue in this matter at UNL at all. The NU Foundation is sitting on a warchest of over a billion dollars. Endowing the necessary scholarships at UNL is chicken feed.

My bet is men's hockey is a revenue sport at UNL starting the day they play their first game.

There is no other school in the entire country that is farther down the infrastructure road than Nebraska is as far as adding a hockey program.

The biggest negative that I can see is that I doubt the USHL Lincoln Stars would survive a UNL foray into hockey, much less, them adding both men's and women's hockey. I think there is just so many hockey dollars in Lincoln and I think many Stars fans would abandon that team in droves for a Husker Hockey team.

The Rube
03-11-2015, 11:35 PM
That's a LOT of Kool-Aid to drink.

Red Cows
03-11-2015, 11:52 PM
"At least three Big Ten schools are considering, quietly in most cases, adding hockey, and the conference has had talks with Arizona State about a hockey-only alliance."

My thoughts, already expressed, about the Big 10 adding "affiliates" in college hockey:

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?111266-Arizona-State-Moving-To-D1&p=6046932&viewfull=1#post6046932

I'll believe it, when I see it. It would be completely and totally unnecessary.

aparch
03-11-2015, 11:57 PM
If I had to guess, I would go with Nebraska and Illinois as two for sure schools. The third, I'm not sure. Iowa? Hockey seems popular there but they currently play at a mall. Northwestern? Big private money but Chicago seems dead for college hockey. Indiana? Cuban could donate some big bucks but Im not sure now big hockey is there.

Really outside of UNL and Illinois I can't think of another.
Was an ice plant included in the Assembly Hall renovation? Last I knew, it wasn't and their current ice rink is like 150' x 250' or some weird dimension like that and only seats 500.

Doubt Illinois is one of the teams.

And Chicagoland is an absolute college hockey wasteland. Notre Dame has tried repeatedly to host games in the area with poor attendance, and the Hockey City Classic hasn't been warmly received.

pgb-ohio
03-11-2015, 11:58 PM
http://www.kcrg.com/subject/news/business/coralville-eyeing-possible-7000-seat-area-for-iowa-river-landing-20150311

No more mall hockey for U of Iowa?Mall games might be a thing of the past if and when the new facility is built. But as per your link, the new building would take on a heavy schedule of multiple sports at multiple levels, plus concerts. Methinks Mall practices would continue.

There is a serious side to this. I've actually seen the rink at the Coralville Mall, and it's not a bad facility. And having practice at a Mall isn't unprecedented. IIRC, the Oilers used to practice occasionally at the rink in the West Edmonton Mall. (the original megamall that inspired the Mall of America) But I've got to believe that elite level coaches are going to occasionally insist on holding closed practices. Tough to do at the Mall unless you schedule practices well outside retail operating hours.

Though if the Iowa program stays at the club level, this is probably a non-issue...

The Rube
03-11-2015, 11:59 PM
Practice is one thing. ;)

Edit: I've also seen the rink in person.

slowe
03-12-2015, 12:12 AM
We already know that Northwestern is one of the three per a comment from Mike Eaves. I'll guess the other two are Illinois and Nebraska. Illinois is more hope than guess I suppose.

"According to Eaves, former UW defenseman Chris Chelios is involved in the group studying the feasibility of adding men’s hockey at Northwestern."

http://m.jsonline.com/sports/blogs/274926991.html

The Rube
03-12-2015, 12:18 AM
We already know that Northwestern is one of the three per a comment from Mike Eaves. I'll guess the other two are Illinois and Nebraska. Illinois is more hope than guess I suppose.

"According to Eaves, former UW defenseman Chris Chelios is involved in the group studying the feasibility of adding men’s hockey at Northwestern."

http://m.jsonline.com/sports/blogs/274926991.html
If you trust Eaves...just saying.

aparch
03-12-2015, 01:05 AM
We already know that Northwestern is one of the three per a comment from Mike Eaves. I'll guess the other two are Illinois and Nebraska. Illinois is more hope than guess I suppose.

"According to Eaves, former UW defenseman Chris Chelios is involved in the group studying the feasibility of adding men’s hockey at Northwestern."

http://m.jsonline.com/sports/blogs/274926991.html

No on campus venue. Other than 1500 seat municipal rinks, only arenas in the area are the United Center, Allstate Arena, and the Sears Center.

If I were to put a crisp $20 on which Chicagoland school makes the D1 jump, I would put it on NIU.

SunDevilBob
03-12-2015, 01:41 AM
Rocky Wirtz being a Northwestern grad is definitely something to consider on that front. But someone told me that apparently Illinois State is considering moving up, although I wouldn't say it was a reliable source.

thebrain
03-12-2015, 01:43 AM
I'm not sure if Iowa has the fan base for a hockey team. The Roughriders attendance is okay, I've been there when they've sold out but have been there when it's half full.

The first thing I thought of when I saw the Coralville Arena story was Big 10 Hockey in Iowa.

There's a nice Marriott and Backpocket Brewing right in the area of the arena. On the flip side, I've been told Coralville is in a lot of debt because they built this area, the Marriott, Von Maur and so forth.

5mn_Major
03-12-2015, 02:20 AM
Northwestern makes sense. Sure Chicago may seem like a hockey wasteland...but aren't W Lafayette and Champaign? Besides, it doesn't take much of a percent of northern Chicago to turn those numbers around. Beyond them, I'd have to figure it would be on the western side of the B1G.

I've also come out saying I didn't think there was any way the B1G would take ASU. I suppose there's some additional eyes out there, no rivalries though. But Heppel is the B1G cheese...and it appears she's telegraphing here.

MavHockey14
03-12-2015, 02:41 AM
A 7K arena 1.5 miles from campus? Hmm. IU and/or Purdue would probably also be candidates.

Coralville is essentially Iowa City.. The concerts at the River a Landing currently usually have non stop University busses to and from campus. Loooooooong way to go, but it could be feasible.

If I win the lottery I'll open up a brand new rink on campus.:)

MavHockey14
03-12-2015, 02:47 AM
Was an ice plant included in the Assembly Hall renovation? Last I knew, it wasn't and their current ice rink is like 150' x 250' or some weird dimension like that and only seats 500.

Doubt Illinois is one of the teams.

And Chicagoland is an absolute college hockey wasteland. Notre Dame has tried repeatedly to host games in the area with poor attendance, and the Hockey City Classic hasn't been warmly received.

Jimmy John, or whatever his real name is, was the rumored donor thinking of helping kick start the Illini, correct? I don't think anything is imminent, but if he wants it to be, the money could be there.

MavHockey14
03-12-2015, 02:53 AM
I'm not sure if Iowa has the fan base for a hockey team. The Roughriders attendance is okay, I've been there when they've sold out but have been there when it's half full.

The first thing I thought of when I saw the Coralville Arena story was Big 10 Hockey in Iowa.

There's a nice Marriott and Backpocket Brewing right in the area of the arena. On the flip side, I've been told Coralville is in a lot of debt because they built this area, the Marriott, Von Maur and so forth.

With the popularity of hockey in Des Moines, Waterloo, and Cedar Rapids continuing to grow, as well as how much Hawkeye fans love the University of Iowa, I could see the fan base getting into the program quickly; Iowa fans are very similar to Nebraska fans, UNL just doesn't have an NSU, so there are more of them.

It is indeed a fantastic area, and I'd love it if the Hawkeyes added hockey, but it's not even close to coming to fruition.

aallenpollreisz
03-12-2015, 04:21 AM
If I had to guess, I would go with Nebraska and Illinois as two for sure schools. The third, I'm not sure. Iowa? Hockey seems popular there but they currently play at a mall. Northwestern? Big private money but Chicago seems dead for college hockey. Indiana? Cuban could donate some big bucks but Im not sure now big hockey is there.

Really outside of UNL and Illinois I can't think of another.Nebraska's new hoops arena has enough floor space for an ice rink - and the right plumbing, too. Basically, they just need to buy an ice plant, a Zamboni, dasher boards, and set aside enough money to endow 18 scholarships for the men and another 18 for the ladies. (Yeah, I know, that's an over-simplification.)

The third? Beats me. I can't imagine Northwestern would make the jump. UIC kind of killed college hockey for everybody in that town once that program went under, I would guess. Maryland is broke, and Rutgers is super-broke, so I doubt it'll be either of the two Johnny-come-latelies. I think that leaves Purdue, Indiana and Iowa. So, Iowa?

Regardless, this is a tremendous time to be alive and a fan of college hockey.