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Rightnut
02-03-2015, 11:30 AM
With the announcement that 5 AHL teams will play in California next season, with a couple more likely to follow in a year or two, California is arguably the new State of Hockey. I know that will make all the Minnesotans' heads pop off but at least with regard to pro hockey, does any one state have more (8) professional teams (I haven't looked). Anyway - does all this professional hockey in California have a positive or negative impact on getting more college hockey programs in the west or is it completely a different animal so it will have no effect?

Nick Papagiorgio
02-03-2015, 11:37 AM
With the announcement that 5 AHL teams will play in California next season, with a couple more likely to follow in a year or two, California is arguably the new State of Hockey.

Yea a few AHL teams moving there will now make it the state of hockey. Yep. OK.

SanTropez
02-03-2015, 12:32 PM
With the announcement that 5 AHL teams will play in California next season, with a couple more likely to follow in a year or two, California is arguably the new State of Hockey. I know that will make all the Minnesotans' heads pop off but at least with regard to pro hockey, does any one state have more (8) professional teams (I haven't looked). Anyway - does all this professional hockey in California have a positive or negative impact on getting more college hockey programs in the west or is it completely a different animal so it will have no effect?

Warning - You have awoken something you really don't want to wake.

Rightnut
02-03-2015, 12:41 PM
Warning - You have awoken something you really don't want to wake.

Ha- I know. Was trolling a little bit there!

hockeyplayer1015
02-03-2015, 01:01 PM
I know that will make all the Minnesotans' heads pop off but at least with regard to pro hockey, does any one state have more (8) professional teams (I haven't looked).

NY has more, currently and going forward.

NHL: Rangers, Islanders, Sabres
AHL: Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Albany, Utica, Glens Falls (obviously they will move west next year, but they are supposed to get an ECHL team instead)
ECHL: Elmira

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2015, 01:17 PM
With the announcement that 5 AHL teams will play in California next season, with a couple more likely to follow in a year or two, California is arguably the new State of Hockey. I know that will make all the Minnesotans' heads pop off but at least with regard to pro hockey, does any one state have more (8) professional teams (I haven't looked). Anyway - does all this professional hockey in California have a positive or negative impact on getting more college hockey programs in the west or is it completely a different animal so it will have no effect?

Even with the re-alignment, NY will have the Sabres, Rangers, Islanders (NHL); Albany Devils, Binghamton Senators, Comets, Crunch, and Amerks (AHL); Glens Falls will pick up Stockton's ECHL team, Elmira Jackals (ECHL), amongst others.

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2015, 01:19 PM
NY has more, currently and going forward.

NHL: Rangers, Islanders, Sabres
AHL: Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Albany, Utica, Glens Falls (obviously they will move west next year, but they are supposed to get an ECHL team instead)
ECHL: Elmira

Doesn't Watertown have a team in the league below ECHL, or are we considering that a beer league? :p

Tipsy McStagger
02-03-2015, 02:11 PM
With the announcement that 5 AHL teams will play in California next season, with a couple more likely to follow in a year or two, California is arguably the new State of Hockey. I know that will make all the Minnesotans' heads pop off but at least with regard to pro hockey, does any one state have more (8) professional teams (I haven't looked). Anyway - does all this professional hockey in California have a positive or negative impact on getting more college hockey programs in the west or is it completely a different animal so it will have no effect?

Yes. The NHL putting 3 teams in the most populous state in the country already proved that it is the true state of hockey. The 5 AHL teams cements it. Clearly there is no state more hockey crazy than California. Just look at all 30 of the players in the history of the NHL that were born in California.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=US&province=&state=CA

Rightnut
02-03-2015, 02:33 PM
Yes. The NHL putting 3 teams in the most populous state in the country already proved that it is the true state of hockey. The 5 AHL teams cements it. Clearly there is no state more hockey crazy than California. Just look at all 30 of the players in the history of the NHL that were born in California.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=US&province=&state=CA

Its hilarious how bent the Minnesotans get. But it seems that NY has more teams so can lay claim to the title. I hereby anoint NY the new State of (pro) Hockey.

But the real point of the thread was the question about whether these AHL teams will have any impact on getting additional schools (like ASU did) to offer hockey? My guess is there is no effect although I am hoping I am wrong.

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2015, 02:38 PM
Its hilarious how bent the Minnesotans get. But it seems that NY has more teams so can lay claim to the title. I hereby anoint NY the new State of (pro) Hockey.

But the real point of the thread was the question about whether these AHL teams will have any impact on getting additional schools (like ASU did) to offer hockey? My guess is there is no effect although I am hoping I am wrong.

Do native Californians even know that ice doesn't always come in a glass? :D

hockeyplayer1015
02-03-2015, 03:42 PM
Doesn't Watertown have a team in the league below ECHL, or are we considering that a beer league? :p

There is a team in that Federal Hockey League... which I guess is technically a step below the Coast. Alexandria Bay had a team in the league as well until this season.

Tipsy McStagger
02-03-2015, 03:55 PM
Its hilarious how bent the Minnesotans get. But it seems that NY has more teams so can lay claim to the title. I hereby anoint NY the new State of (pro) Hockey.

But the real point of the thread was the question about whether these AHL teams will have any impact on getting additional schools (like ASU did) to offer hockey? My guess is there is no effect although I am hoping I am wrong.

It is a ridiculous premise, even if California had more teams than New York. Just because I pointed out how stupid your claim was doesn't mean I am "bent" about it. It can't even be taken seriously, how could I be mad about it?

BigAl
02-03-2015, 04:15 PM
I am a native Californian who was introduced to hockey 3 years when I started attending Quinnipiac. While it is great news that these teams are heading west we must remember there have been teams in Bakersfield and Stockton for some time now and it hasnt moved the needle much. Growing up in California I never once watched an NHL game on TV. The problem is there are almost no kids playing ice hockey. For the game to grow significantly in the state, I believe it will have to come from the bottom up. The Kings can win the Cup every two years but until there are a good amount of kids playing the sport the needle wont move much IMO

Rightnut
02-03-2015, 04:29 PM
It is a ridiculous premise, even if California had more teams than New York. Just because I pointed out how stupid your claim was doesn't mean I am "bent" about it. It can't even be taken seriously, how could I be mad about it?

Of course its a ridiculous premise. It was intended to be. That's why I said all the Minnesotans' heads would pop off. Which yours apparently has. Which shows how bent you got, which is funny. You got so upset you missed the entire point of the thread, which was about college hockey out west, which reinforces your bent-ed-ness, which is also funny. Relax, just poking a little fun. San Tropez was so right on his post!

northeastern
02-03-2015, 04:33 PM
..we must remember there have been teams in Bakersfield and Stockton for some time now and it hasnt moved the needle much. Growing up in California I never once watched an NHL game on TV. The problem is there are almost no kids playing ice hockey. For the game to grow significantly in the state, I believe it will have to come from the bottom up. The Kings can win the Cup every two years but until there are a good amount of kids playing the sport the needle wont move much IMO

whole state has like 40 odd ice sheets.. that is another issue.. accessability to facilities. these teams moving out west will def help with the increase in facilities, fan base, interest as a whole.. which in term will tie into.. if you build it.. they will (might?) come. My personal opinion is California & hockey have a great future ahead.

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2015, 04:39 PM
whole state has like 40 odd ice sheets.. that is another issue.. accessability to facilities. these teams moving out west will def help with the increase in facilities, fan base, interest as a whole.. which in term will tie into.. if you build it.. they will (might?) come. My personal opinion is California & hockey have a great future ahead.

Have they even seen ice on the ground out there?

Jimjamesak
02-03-2015, 04:41 PM
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Tipsy McStagger
02-03-2015, 05:15 PM
Of course its a ridiculous premise. It was intended to be. That's why I said all the Minnesotans' heads would pop off. Which yours apparently has. Which shows how bent you got, which is funny. You got so upset you missed the entire point of the thread, which was about college hockey out west, which reinforces your bent-ed-ness, which is also funny. Relax, just poking a little fun. San Tropez was so right on his post!

The rest of your post was just as stupid. Hmm... let's see. The Kings have been around for almost 50 years. The Sharks have been around for 25 and the Ducks for 20. How many college teams you have now? Zero. A couple of AHL teams is gonna change that? Really?

Ronnieb
02-03-2015, 05:32 PM
I am a native Californian who was introduced to hockey 3 years when I started attending Quinnipiac. While it is great news that these teams are heading west we must remember there have been teams in Bakersfield and Stockton for some time now and it hasnt moved the needle much. Growing up in California I never once watched an NHL game on TV. The problem is there are almost no kids playing ice hockey. For the game to grow significantly in the state, I believe it will have to come from the bottom up. The Kings can win the Cup every two years but until there are a good amount of kids playing the sport the needle wont move much IMO


6th highest USA Hockey registration in US. More than 30,000 players and that's just kids.

Rightnut
02-03-2015, 05:47 PM
The rest of your post was just as stupid. Hmm... let's see. The Kings have been around for almost 50 years. The Sharks have been around for 25 and the Ducks for 20. How many college teams you have now? Zero. A couple of AHL teams is gonna change that? Really?

Exactly. That was the question. Will they have any impact? Apparently you say no although I shouldn't have to impute your answer from your rant.