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Irishdave
01-09-2015, 08:43 PM
Well tonight ASU plays Centrial Oklahoma (it is #1 vs #2 ) after last night I don't know which team is one or two so will chat later

dxmnkd316
01-09-2015, 08:52 PM
Big ten doesn't do associate members. Not for big four sports.

darker98
01-09-2015, 09:04 PM
Big ten doesn't do associate members. Not for big four sports.

Sorry. I don't know how to use smileys.

gfmorris
01-09-2015, 10:39 PM
(as you know almost all DI football programs are self-sufficient and then some )

That's a laugher.

GFM

Red Cows
01-09-2015, 10:53 PM
There are a number of "polls" on the numbers but it seems ASU is at the top on more of them till you start using different filters undergrad, online, etc BUT with bodies on campus Undergrad and Grad ASU is the largest

How about posting even a single link that buttresses this statement?

When I type "largest colleges and universities" into Google, ASU isn't #1 in a single list I found.

Irishdave
01-09-2015, 11:27 PM
How about posting even a single link that buttresses this statement?

When I type "largest colleges and universities" into Google, ASU isn't #1 in a single list I found.

http://about.asu.edu/facts.html
https://ikm.ucf.edu/files/2015/01/UCF-Current-Facts-01.05.15.pdf
http://enrollmentplanning.osu.edu/report.pdf

I first started with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_university_campuses_by_enrol lment#cite_note-5
And then looked up the places where they got the info (you know sometimes you can't trust Wikipedia) there were 48 Reference notes that were above reproach since they came from non Wikipedia sources.
There are online schools and brick & mortar, online schools that have a larger enrollments but with traditional brick, mortar and Ivy universities ASU has been #1 for a few years.

Red Cows
01-09-2015, 11:27 PM
There is a lot of behind the scenes action going on.
First ASU is going to develop the land that is the on Campus golf course (soon to be closed) into a business and commerce district where the profits go straight into the athletics department for use by lesser sports (as you know almost all DI football programs are self-sufficient and then some )
The donation given to the hockey program is THE LARGEST donation to any sport in ASU's history (since 1885).
Even through the semester does not start till the 12th the crowd last night was good size.
The "logistics concerns" was merely holding the cards close to the chest which is something Westerners have been doing since the OK corral days.
Being an alumni with very small ties to the booster club I was sworn to silence until the announcement. At first My feeling was it is still too soon but after what I have seen I am coming around to believing that ASU will be competitive.

Sorry, but you are completely out of your gourd.

From the NCAA, itself:

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/growth-division-i-athletics-expenses-outpaces-revenue-increases

Only 20 FBS teams made money on football in 2013.

Secondly, "The District at ASU" involves far more land than just the golf course you mentioned:

http://www.thedistrictatasu.com/

And, the stated primary purpose of establishing this "district" is to improve existing facilities since they seem to be having a hard time finding the money to do this any other way. That makes me even more skeptical that officials are going to be falling all over themselves, anytime soon, to build what will probably need to be at least a 90 million dollar hockey facility. The biggest stated purpose of taking this approach is to facilitate the replacing Sun Devil Stadium, which the article says is currently suffering from over 80 million dollars of deferred maintenance needs! If you can't even maintain what you already have, where is all this money coming from to build a hockey arena?

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20120830asu-plans-athletic-facilities-district-fund-stadium-fixes.html

Red Cows
01-09-2015, 11:32 PM
Will a new rink be in place by the time ASU becomes D1 hockey team?


Please outline to us all how a "new rink" could possibly be in place by October of this year, when the new hockey season starts, which is also when ASU is going D-1.

Inquiring minds are just dying to know.

Red Cows
01-09-2015, 11:35 PM
http://about.asu.edu/facts.html
https://ikm.ucf.edu/files/2015/01/UCF-Current-Facts-01.05.15.pdf
http://enrollmentplanning.osu.edu/report.pdf

I first started with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_university_campuses_by_enrol lment#cite_note-5
And then looked up the places where they got the info (you know sometimes you can't trust Wikipedia) there were 48 Reference notes that were above reproach since they came from non Wikipedia sources.
There are online schools and brick & mortar, online schools that have a larger enrollments but with traditional brick, mortar and Ivy universities ASU has been #1 for a few years.

Not single one of these links purports ASU to have the largest enrollment of all U.S. colleges and universities.

I must be missing something here.

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 12:06 AM
Sorry, but you are completely out of your gourd.

From the NCAA, itself:

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/growth-division-i-athletics-expenses-outpaces-revenue-increases

Only 20 FBS teams made money on football in 2013.

Secondly, "The District at ASU" involves far more land than just the golf course you mentioned:

http://www.thedistrictatasu.com/

And, the stated primary purpose of establishing this "district" is to improve existing facilities since they seem to be having a hard time finding the money to do this any other way. That makes me even more skeptical that officials are going to be falling all over themselves, anytime soon, to build what will probably need to be at least a 90 million dollar hockey facility. The biggest stated purpose of taking this approach is to facilitate the replacing Sun Devil Stadium, which the article says is currently suffering from over 80 million dollars of deferred maintenance needs! If you can't even maintain what you already have, where is all this money coming from to build a hockey arena?

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20120830asu-plans-athletic-facilities-district-fund-stadium-fixes.html

Ok Red you caught me I only gave the Readers Digest version of the district. Much like politics you have to read between the lines.
But I think you lost your Murder of crows (no need for a gourd here).
Don't drink The Kool aid, as most NCAA reports are, it is written to sound good, BTW the HOCKEY Donation was $32 million
BTW Red where do you come from? I live 2 min from ASU's Tempe Campus and 7 min (if the lights are against me) from OceanSide Ice Arena. It is called Oceanside because it is next door to Big Surf (designated as an ASME Historic Mechanical Engineering Landmark, First inland surfing facility in North America)

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 12:20 AM
Not single one of these links purports ASU to have the largest enrollment of all U.S. colleges and universities.

I must be missing something here.

Yes just read the reports and do the math
ASU 62,599
UCF 60,810
OSU 42791

BTW I do have to say this is the stupidest argument I have seen in a while what are you a frustrated Social Studies teacher This is not a term paper, if you don't believe my figures look for yourself I don't know how you are missing the figures I use google too. You believe what you want to believe I'll believe the figures I got from a S___ load of research I did before you questioned it. I have better things to do then argue with some nitpicker
BTW ASU Won tonight 7-2 so they may still be the #1 CLUB team when the ACHA ranking come out later tonight or tomorrow.

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 12:29 AM
Bunch of 27 year old Canadian freshman, I bet. How despicable. What kind of school would do that?

I have seen a bunch, A lot at DIII

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 12:51 AM
Are there any fans of ASU who post here?

Yes
I started out as a DIII Oswego Fan (still am)

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 12:57 AM
They play in a rink that seats 500 (no I'm not missing a zero, five hundred). Multiply that times 10 and you MIGHT have a team that hangs around a while in that area. Paying $5 to watch a club team is not the same as paying $20-$25 to watch a D-I hockey team. How many of those fans are going to come to games at 5 times the cost just because they're suddenly playing teams they don't play in any other sports. $20+ is what they'll be charging if they don't want the team to be a drain on the university - then again, maybe they don't care, there will be another 20,000 new tuition paying students each year they can always drain fees from. Hockey survives at small schools with small budgets because at most of them hockey is the biggest sport and has all the attention.
Ryan J

Point of information it is $12 ticket at ASU

Red Cows
01-10-2015, 12:57 AM
Yes just read the reports and do the math
ASU 62,599
UCF 60,810
OSU 42791

BTW I do have to say this is the stupidest argument I have seen in a while what are you a frustrated Social Studies teacher This is not a term paper, if you don't believe my figures look for yourself I don't know how you are missing the figures I use google too. You believe what you want to believe I'll believe the figures I got from a S___ load of research I did before you questioned it. I have better things to do then argue with some nitpicker
BTW ASU Won tonight 7-2 so they may still be the #1 CLUB team when the ACHA ranking come out later tonight or tomorrow.

Uh, O.K.

Your eloquence, as well as your excellently supported rationale and "facts", have overwhelmed me and I will therefore slink away in shame.

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 01:22 AM
In northern Arizona they built an arena for $36 million multipurpose facility located in Prescott Valley, Arizona. The arena seats approximately 5,100 for hockey,
The costs can be trimmed down from $90 Million
The Hockey team ceased operations this year but it did prove an arena could be built (just in the wrong place) for less.

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 01:24 AM
I was asking IrishDave that question?

I don't think it could be built that quickly but money does funny things

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 01:59 AM
UAH is a solid school but if you compare ASU vs UAH party wise, its not even close.
ASU has been ranked as " one of the easiest colleges to get laid "

Wait a minute I don't see it that way (wait it is time for my pills I am 63) but when I was a student I could say it was a true statement.

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 02:00 AM
Is this the Arizona Sundogs teams ice rink?

Yes

Irishdave
01-10-2015, 02:39 AM
...but they're receptive to the idea of flying out to Arizona?

Phoenix Is a Hub for a couple of Airlines (ASU is in the flight pattern for Sky harbor Airport) It will be an easy trip for any team 20 min bus ride. NAU was not easy to get to once you landed in Phoenix, (According to Ron White, Geese fly faster to Flagstaff) it is a 155 mile bus trip up hill and it isn't any faster coming back.
Back in the Day every Football team wanted to play Hawaii when they were an independent they never had problems filling in home games. So I do not think ASU will have any problems getting games.