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Runsub5
11-23-2014, 02:12 PM
I think all but Peccaro and Romeo are Red recruits

You are correct. Peccararo and Romeo were Tim's recruits. Others de-committed. Andrew Tegeler and Nugnes are Red's recruits and they haven't played yet as I recall.

Ma#1ne Hky
11-23-2014, 02:24 PM
You are correct. Peccararo and Romeo were Tim's recruits. Others de-committed. Andrew Tegeler and Nugnes are Red's recruits and they haven't played yet as I recall.Tegeler has played one game to date,while Nugnes was injured during training camp and has since been said to have skated some,but with no word if still not ready for play.

Runsub5
11-23-2014, 02:59 PM
http://bangordailynews.com/sports/

About freakin time he boiled over !

I realize how frustrating it is to lose multiple consecutive games. However, in my opinion throwing your team "under the bus" may not be the most productive strategy. He threatens to bench players and substitute them with others. He then says I still believe in you and we will stick with it. Which is it? I trust that he knows his team well enough before launching a public attack. Could it possibly be the opposition is just better?

walrus
11-23-2014, 04:15 PM
Tegeler has played one game to date,while Nugnes was injured during training camp and has since been said to have skated some,but with no word if still not ready for play.

Nugnes has been on the pregame roster at Alfond so he must be ready

walrus
11-23-2014, 04:16 PM
I realize how frustrating it is to lose multiple consecutive games. However, in my opinion throwing your team "under the bus" may not be the most productive strategy. He threatens to bench players and substitute them with others. He then says I still believe in you and we will stick with it. Which is it? I trust that he knows his team well enough before launching a public attack. Could it possibly be the opposition is just better?
Yeah, I think his temper got the better of him on that. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Drew S.
11-23-2014, 04:29 PM
I realize how frustrating it is to lose multiple consecutive games. However, in my opinion throwing your team "under the bus" may not be the most productive strategy. He threatens to bench players and substitute them with others. He then says I still believe in you and we will stick with it. Which is it? I trust that he knows his team well enough before launching a public attack. Could it possibly be the opposition is just better?

I think there is a big difference between losing the two Union games and Saturday night UVM game versus the Friday night UVM game and two BU games. In the first three games I mentioned Maine was second best and you have to tip your hat to the opposition. In the second three games Maine was ahead in all of them, two of them in the third period, and should have gotten something out of them. I still can't believe how poor last night's game was all the way around. I'm sure York was thrilled with the win, but he must have been thinking to himself 'W T F is this rubbish, no way this can be Maine-BC.' The fact there were only three penalties taken during the game shows the lack of intensity on both sides.

It's true Maine needs more talent and that has been the reason behind a lot of losses. At the same time though Maine has completely thrown away great positions in a few games. They only have one league game in the next couple of months and hopefully can re-group for the rest of the league games. I would like to see Musil get some more games and maybe let Hayes have some games on D. I'm not sure the story on Nugnes but at some point he deserves a look in.

rufus
11-23-2014, 04:58 PM
If people arenít going to do what is required, they wonít be in the lineup.

Would have been nice for the reporter(Larry) to ask a follow-up here and get the details on what Red's talking about, but since Larry probably wasn't even there, and is just quoting this from a videoed press conference, I guess that's all we can expect.

I can assume Red's not too happy with his team's work ethic and intensity on the ice. Especially if DoubleA's take on the games is accurate. Appears they just phoned in their effort in the BC game.

blackbear80
11-23-2014, 06:51 PM
Especially if DoubleA's take on the games is accurate. Appears they just phoned in their effort in the BC game.
We were at both games. DoubleA's take on the games is accurate.



I think there is a big difference between losing the two Union games and Saturday night UVM game versus the Friday night UVM game and two BU games. In the first three games I mentioned Maine was second best and you have to tip your hat to the opposition. In the second three games Maine was ahead in all of them, two of them in the third period, and should have gotten something out of them. I still can't believe how poor last night's game was all the way around. I'm sure York was thrilled with the win, but he must have been thinking to himself 'W T F is this rubbish, no way this can be Maine-BC.' The fact there were only three penalties taken during the game shows the lack of intensity on both sides.

It's true Maine needs more talent and that has been the reason behind a lot of losses. At the same time though Maine has completely thrown away great positions in a few games. They only have one league game in the next couple of months and hopefully can re-group for the rest of the league games. I would like to see Musil get some more games and maybe let Hayes have some games on D. I'm not sure the story on Nugnes but at some point he deserves a look in.
Watching the Friday night game unfold I was thinking that Maine was working really hard at the beginning of the game. By the third period, though, that hard work had tired them out and they really couldn't respond well when BU started to turn it on. I don't think it's necessarily conditioning; I think it's mostly overall skating ability. BU looked like their skating is natural and most of the players generate speed without a lot of effort. Maine's players were scrambling; it paid off early but it took its toll. Overall it was an exciting hockey game and we came away frustrated with the loss but thinking if they play this way against other teams wins will come.

Saturday, though, was rubbish; don't know what JY was talking about. All 4 in our group thought it was one of the least inspired games we've ever seen. I think most spectators felt the same based on the level of buzz in the arena - they should refund the tickets! My thought after the game was "the only team that played well was the BC Pep Band!"


I realize how frustrating it is to lose multiple consecutive games. However, in my opinion throwing your team "under the bus" may not be the most productive strategy. He threatens to bench players and substitute them with others. He then says I still believe in you and we will stick with it. Which is it? I trust that he knows his team well enough before launching a public attack. Could it possibly be the opposition is just better?
I thought Red's Friday's press conference was spot on: http://hockey.dailyfreepress.com/2014/11/21/video-postgame-comments-after-bus-ot-win-over-maine/
Does anyone have a link to the Saturday press conference? I'm thinking he's referring to the "gliders," but words matter and he should be more precise.

blackbearbandie
11-23-2014, 07:37 PM
My thought after the game was "the only team that played well was the BC Pep Band!"

They sounded pretty good over the radio too!

all bear
11-23-2014, 07:42 PM
Maine went through the motions Saturday simple as that. They don't have the intestinal fortitude to play back to back good games. You best believe one of walshys team would have come out like their hair was on fire saturday night after a tough Friday loss. You simply cannot afford to give away points in this league

blackbearbandie
11-23-2014, 07:52 PM
Maine went through the motions Saturday simple as that. They don't have the intestinal fortitude to play back to back good games. You best believe one of walshys team would have come out like their hair was on fire saturday night after a tough Friday loss. You simply cannot afford to give away points in this league

UVM on Saturday after losing to UCONN the previous night came back and thumped UMass-Amherst 11-1. Things won't get any easier for Maine this weekend with Vermont up for a few games in Orono.

Pucknut
11-24-2014, 11:37 AM
I'm just hoping that the hockey program wins again someday before I die.

You might want to check with your physician to see how much longer you have, it may be a bit of a wait after what we witnessed on Saturday night.

DoubleA
11-24-2014, 12:55 PM
We were at both games. DoubleA's take on the games is accurate.


Watching the Friday night game unfold I was thinking that Maine was working really hard at the beginning of the game. By the third period, though, that hard work had tired them out and they really couldn't respond well when BU started to turn it on....

Exactly my point. Maine needs to work 120-130% harder than a BU or other top team to a) be competitive and b) win the game. And that 120-130% takes its toll by the third period. These kids are as well conditioned as any other team, I believe. They just don't have the depth or have not developed the potential talent they have yet. And again, he's trying really hard, but #94 is not playing the same brand of hockey that he was playing last year. No way.

Nick Papagiorgio
11-24-2014, 02:55 PM
I know some others have already mentioned it but it is tough to imagine Maine looking any worse than they did on Saturday night. Dreadful performance. I am shocked because I keep hearing about all these blue chippers coming in to Orono from BBDiehard and DrewS but boy they play more like cow chips than blue chips.

BBDiehard14
11-24-2014, 03:26 PM
I hate to say it but the departure of Lomberg may have impacted these guys mentally a little bit. He was a tough one to replace

Drew S.
11-24-2014, 03:30 PM
I know some others have already mentioned it but it is tough to imagine Maine looking any worse than they did on Saturday night. Dreadful performance. I am shocked because I keep hearing about all these blue chippers coming in to Orono from BBDiehard and DrewS but boy they play more like cow chips than blue chips.

See my earlier comments, hard to believe that was Maine and BC playing. BC played some good defense, but other than that the game was pretty dreadful. There was just very little intensity on either side. I will say that I was pretty impressed with Tuch, not much quality up front for BC other than that.

walrus
11-24-2014, 05:35 PM
I know some others have already mentioned it but it is tough to imagine Maine looking any worse than they did on Saturday night. Dreadful performance. I am shocked because I keep hearing about all these blue chippers coming in to Orono from BBDiehard and DrewS but boy they play more like cow chips than blue chips.

You should be used to fan boys by now.

blackbearbandie
11-24-2014, 05:44 PM
I hate to say it but the departure of Lomberg may have impacted these guys mentally a little bit. He was a tough one to replace

I think that does play into things a little bit. Someone posted here a week ago too that Shore, Hutton and Lomberg are all from Ontario on top of being in the same class year together. I wonder if Maine has a team sports psychologist.

blackbearbandie
11-24-2014, 06:57 PM
Latest from BDN:

UMaine hockey coach says struggling team is close to being successful

By Larry Mahoney, BDN Staff
Posted Nov. 24, 2014, at 6:39 p.m.
http://bangordailynews.com/2014/11/24/sports/umaine-hockey-coach-says-struggling-team-is-close-to-being-successful/?ref=regionstate

rufus
11-24-2014, 07:36 PM
All five of the losses have come at the hands of teams currently ranked in the top 13 in the United States College Hockey Online poll: two apiece to No. 1 Boston University (3-1 and 3-2 in overtime) and No. 13 Vermont (4-3 in overtime, 4-1) and one to No. 12 Boston College (4-1).

It's facts like this that really have me questioning the sky is falling fair weather posters on this board. Losing to teams like this is no shame, and a break here or there, and there could have been three wins out of this bunch just as easily.

I'd like to see lines of

Leen Shore Swavely
Vesey Brown Pecararo
Morgan Higgins Byron

And I don't know about a fourth line. I like what I've seen of Hayes as a winger, and the team badly needs his size and grit. Is Lecroix the only center who can play there, or is there someone else? Maybe a line of Merchant, Campbell and Hayes, or maybe work Tegeler in there? Have a big, bumping fourth line like Walsh used to play, with guys like Tepper, Lacouture, Widmeyer. Or maybe put Lecroix on the third between Morgan and Byron and drop Higgins to the fourth?

No true second and third lines anyway, the Brown line could be third, while Morgan and Byron and whoever's centering be the second. Not a whole lot of difference.

Not having seen the games in person, I'm not as down on the defense as some are. I thought they played pretty well the first game against BU, a game I was able to see. Maybe pair Hamilton with Hutton, and Riley with Rutt? Love the Schuhamer-Renouf pair.

Romeo seems like he's played pretty well, well enough to earn the starting job. Work Morris and Nugnes in when you can against lesser opponents Don't overwork him like Ouellette was last year.