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FlagDUDE08
03-10-2015, 12:13 PM
So basically they're taking from friends and family $10/game while the rest of us decide not to bother paying for a video feed we've gotten for free the entire year.

When will these leagues and schools understand that they get far more eyeballs on their product when putting it up for free. Far more people watch, which exposes those people to your product, which probably increases demand on tickets. It's a win-win.

Quinnipiac understands this, RPI understands this, I think a couple other teams in our league understand this. But the ECAC doesn't. It's a shame.

But don't worry, I'm sure the semi's and finals will be on FOX College Sports again, a network that about 12 people in the entire country get.

Big difference between the regular season and playoffs: The schools fund one of those, while the league funds the other. I'm sure you can figure out which is which. The league is contracting the video providers for a game feed, while during the regular season, no live account of the game is even required; just an official box score to be sent to the league offices. The league believes that a free video will detract from the money they could receive from gate revenue, so they make it PPV. That's their prerogative, and given the playoffs happen around the time of Spring Break, it's understandable. Sure, the ECAC could advertise better with a free video product (and heck, mandate TV timeouts for the playoff games and have the video producers run some ads to earn back the revenue), but since it does not accomplish their goals, they don't.

Ivy League obviously creates some sort of contract with the participating schools. As for #26 Union, well, they probably need the cash to pay off the refs so they get their exorbitantly and relatively high number of power plays. :p:D

ZYanksRule
03-10-2015, 12:55 PM
Big difference between the regular season and playoffs: The schools fund one of those, while the league funds the other. I'm sure you can figure out which is which. The league is contracting the video providers for a game feed, while during the regular season, no live account of the game is even required; just an official box score to be sent to the league offices. The league believes that a free video will detract from the money they could receive from gate revenue, so they make it PPV. That's their prerogative, and given the playoffs happen around the time of Spring Break, it's understandable. Sure, the ECAC could advertise better with a free video product (and heck, mandate TV timeouts for the playoff games and have the video producers run some ads to earn back the revenue), but since it does not accomplish their goals, they don't.

Ivy League obviously creates some sort of contract with the participating schools. As for #26 Union, well, they probably need the cash to pay off the refs so they get their exorbitantly and relatively high number of power plays. :p:D

I understand all that, I still think it's an awful decision. Is there any reason to believe less people come to the games because of free video? Quinnipiac sells out almost every single home game and does a free feed. It doesn't seem to add up to me. Free video increases interest in the long-term. It's a promotional vehicle for the league. That's my point.

I live about an hour away from Quinnipiac. I can't make it up there a lot. If there was free video, I'd be watching every game. I'm not paying $10/game to watch, though. Just not doing it. So instead of living and dying with every second of playoff hockey, I'll just be following the updates on Twitter. It's a mistake by the league to push me away from my team on the off chance they can make a few hundred dollars. How many people, aside from players' families, do you think are actually going to pay for these games? I'd guess it's not a large number.

FlagDUDE08
03-10-2015, 01:00 PM
I understand all that, I still think it's an awful decision. Is there any reason to believe less people come to the games because of free video? Quinnipiac sells out almost every single home game and does a free feed. It doesn't seem to add up to me. Free video increases interest in the long-term. It's a promotional vehicle for the league. That's my point.

Cost of tickets are more (in most cases; Cornell's are already higher than the league mandate, RPI's is the same, not sure about you guys), the cost to produce the video (the league sets this at $10,000 based upon the fine RPI-TV incurred a few years ago and the TV contract cost), and all revenue up to the mandate goes directly to the league, not the school. There's a reason I nickname them the EZ$$.

FlagDUDE08
03-10-2015, 01:08 PM
I live about an hour away from Quinnipiac. I can't make it up there a lot. If there was free video, I'd be watching every game. I'm not paying $10/game to watch, though. Just not doing it. So instead of living and dying with every second of playoff hockey, I'll just be following the updates on Twitter. It's a mistake by the league to push me away from my team on the off chance they can make a few hundred dollars. How many people, aside from players' families, do you think are actually going to pay for these games? I'd guess it's not a large number.

You'd be surprised in this day and age how many would watch. Granted, it's not to the level of TV ratings, but streaming video has certainly increased over the last few years. Granted, you can also figure out internet patterns and "hack" the thing to view it (what a couple of RPI alums figured out; the preview is easy but I won't divulge anything further for obvious reasons). I also assume they can't get advertisers to sponsor the games and avert some of the cost because the ratings would be too low (not to mention, potential favoritism, which is why the NC$$ doesn't allow ads on the boards during the national playoffs).

DownOnTheFarm
03-11-2015, 12:04 AM
Them charging $10 a game to listen to some blockhead play by play and probably mediocre coverage of a College Hockey game is just insane. Ivy League Digital Network already charges $10 a month and you can watch every single game. So to me it is disgusting that they would do that to the loyal fans of every ECAC team. I moved out to CA for a new job at the end of January and subscribed to ILDN just so I could watch the games... minus majority of the play by play being just awful and ear bleeding, the coverage was great. So I wasted $10 this month to watch 1 weekend of hockey, to me that is disgusting business practice and something I would expect from Xfinity Comcast rather than the ECAC.

I guess I am just a cheap ******* for not wanting to pay for crap coverage.

FlagDUDE08
03-11-2015, 07:10 AM
Them charging $10 a game to listen to some blockhead play by play and probably mediocre coverage of a College Hockey game is just insane. Ivy League Digital Network already charges $10 a month and you can watch every single game. So to me it is disgusting that they would do that to the loyal fans of every ECAC team. I moved out to CA for a new job at the end of January and subscribed to ILDN just so I could watch the games... minus majority of the play by play being just awful and ear bleeding, the coverage was great. So I wasted $10 this month to watch 1 weekend of hockey, to me that is disgusting business practice and something I would expect from Xfinity Comcast rather than the ECAC.

I guess I am just a cheap ******* for not wanting to pay for crap coverage.

It's not as bad as B2, which created craptastic versions of streams (they always had trouble with RPI-TV's awesomeness); they will do some higher resolutions halfway decently. But yeah, welcome to the EZ$$ believing that providing a free stream means that people will not attend the games in person, despite how untrue that really is.

QUAlum2004
03-11-2015, 12:41 PM
Quinnipiac recruit G Keith Petruzzelli is invited to the NTDP evaluation camp.

http://www.usantdp.com/news_article/show/488432?referrer_id=666974

Got 6, Want More
03-11-2015, 04:07 PM
It's not as bad as B2, which created craptastic versions of streams (they always had trouble with RPI-TV's awesomeness); they will do some higher resolutions halfway decently. But yeah, welcome to the EZ$$ believing that providing a free stream means that people will not attend the games in person, despite how untrue that really is.

Less than half of the games last weekend had more than 2000 fans attend, and some were officially below 1000. It would appear fans are staying away. I don't like being charged to view playoff games (and I'll watch games when my team is not playing), but the fact I got all the home RS games for free balances that out. I do think it's a joke that the ECAC mandates this but my guess is the money goes to them and is then distributed. The league needs at least $5 a week to pay all the refs what they are worth!!

FlagDUDE08
03-11-2015, 04:12 PM
Less than half of the games last weekend had more than 2000 fans attend, and some were officially below 1000. It would appear fans are staying away. I don't like being charged to view playoff games (and I'll watch games when my team is not playing), but the fact I got all the home RS games for free balances that out. I do think it's a joke that the ECAC mandates this but my guess is the money goes to them and is then distributed. The league needs at least $5 a week to pay all the refs what they are worth!!

It is true that the league is the host of the tournament, and therefore receives all monies associated thereof. I believe they also pay for reasonable travel expenses for all visiting teams (though RPI kind of got away with one in 2012, lodging for the Union quarterfinal series).

MarkEagleUSA
03-11-2015, 04:15 PM
The league needs at least $5 a week to pay all the refs what they are worth!!$5 for the season would be about 10 times more than they're worth! :mad:

vicb
03-12-2015, 03:24 PM
A bit more than 26 hours to get your picks in. Remember 7PM Friday is the deadline.

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.ph...-Playoffs-2015

BobNY
03-12-2015, 08:36 PM
ECAC Hockey tournament: Quinnipiac knows Union isn’t typical 10th seed
http://www.middletownpress.com/sports/20150311/ecac-hockey-tournament-quinnipiac-knows-union-isnt-typical-10th-seed

MarkEagleUSA
03-13-2015, 03:50 AM
Huge weekend ahead. Union is a formidable opponent and we will need to play our best games. This is what it's all about and it's time to get it done.

Go Q!

#GameDayGold

vicb
03-13-2015, 04:46 AM
A bit more than 13 hours to get your picks in. Remember 7PM Friday is the deadline.

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.ph...-Playoffs-2015

DownOnTheFarm
03-13-2015, 07:28 PM
Like always, these refs are awful. How do you call a goalie interference on a man that is being checked into the goalie. There have been an abundance of interference and tripping penalties missed on both sides. Then with Q down a man they want to call a penalty shot!!!! Toews did not eve have a step on the man, that should have been a 2 minute tripping call.

PSA posting while ****ed off and drinking is not a good idea! But figured I would vent to people that understand my frustration because all I get from my lady is, "everything will be okay." comments hahaha.

ZYanksRule
03-13-2015, 09:52 PM
And now we've reached the scenario why it's so idiotic to put these games behind a paywall.

General hockey fans are interested in our game now. Hockey fans LOVE overtime, but no one is paying $10 to watch the third overtime. So instead of getting all the free buzz from a multiple-OT game, no one is paying any attention.

hockeyplayer1015
03-13-2015, 09:54 PM
Mayhem. Multiple OT's as often as possible, 3 games for all series, get the crazy out of the way in the 1st round ;)


Ya know, since Union and y'all like bonus hockey so much, go out and reclaim the #1 spot next weekend ;)

Just gonna bring these back to the forefront. #prophet.

QUAlum2004
03-13-2015, 10:02 PM
Quinnipiac wins 4-3

DownOnTheFarm
03-13-2015, 10:07 PM
Garteig is the reason for this win. I am so glad to see this kid come alive! Anas' two goals with under a minute left were just disgusting. the 3rd period play as a whole was on point.

From Cali... amazing job boys!

Quinn57
03-13-2015, 10:26 PM
Great W.

Completely unreasonable to want to get these games for free but $10 per game is too much. Complete cash grab.