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FlagDUDE08
05-12-2014, 09:55 PM
Breaking: Princeton head coach Bob Prier has resigned..... https://twitter.com/MikeMcMahonCHN

Third year with no progress. When will we decide to follow suit? Of course, it all depends upon your definition of "progress".

Ralph Baer
05-13-2014, 12:36 AM
Today is 13 May 2014. There are 144 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 4 October 2014 for the start of next season.

engineerhockeyfan
05-13-2014, 08:47 AM
Third year with no progress. When will we decide to follow suit? Of course, it all depends upon your definition of "progress".

I think it has more to do with your definition of "resigned".

johnk
05-13-2014, 10:37 AM
Perhaps it's just me, but the only times I really see attendance figures below 3000 these days is when the students are on break. The last two years of Fridgen, 2500 was commonplace. We've been hitting 3100-3200 quite a bit lately. Sure, it isn't the 4000 that I'm sure certain people whose primary concern was attendance would like to see, but it is relative.

You're not going to get any argument from me about this team's mediocrity. My point is that, assuming no blind faith, support has to be given for some reason.

Attendance Fridgens last 2 years

2004-2005 3,169
2005-2006 3,128

RPI attendance last 5 years

2009-2010 2,859
2010-2011 3,158
2011-2012 3,435
2012-2013 3,132
2013-2014 3,255

Support is no different now than it has been for basically the last 15 years so I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.

ServinisScores
05-13-2014, 11:04 PM
The last sentence is ignorant in that it completely ignores today's reality In the NHL -both for teams looking to build rosters in the era of collective bargaining AND for players looking to get their clock ticking toward their first pro free agent contracts where they can cash in, if they've had success in the A. The minors are littered with kids who arguably "left too early" to chase pro money. Anyone seen TJ Fox lately??

You start out by claiming my last statement is ignorant, then you agree with me...?

I don't care about the general NHL - I'm talking about why are the high-end recruits Seth gets lauded for landing are leaving so soon? Is D'Amigo well-positioned for an NHL FA contract? Haggerty? Zalewski?

Ralph Baer
05-14-2014, 01:18 AM
Today is 14 May 2014. There are 143 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 4 October 2014 for the start of next season.

Ralph Baer
05-14-2014, 01:19 AM
You start out by claiming my last statement is ignorant, then you agree with me...?

I don't care about the general NHL - I'm talking about why are the high-end recruits Seth gets lauded for landing are leaving so soon? Is D'Amigo well-positioned for an NHL FA contract? Haggerty? Zalewski?

High-end recruits leaving early is certainly not limited to RPI.

FreshFish
05-14-2014, 09:49 AM
High-end recruits leaving early is certainly not limited to RPI.

Most people go to college in hopes of finding a well-paying job after they graduate. These guys found a well-paying job before they graduated, thanks to going to college. We can be disappointed that we won't have them around, hard to see how "disappointment" morphs into "criticism" however. :confused: An injury suffered while remaining in college after an offer has been made might foreclose that future paycheck.

hockeymascot
05-14-2014, 10:02 AM
High-end recruits leaving early is certainly not limited to RPI.

Very few leave after their freshman or sophomore years, especially when they are not ready!

Ralph Baer
05-14-2014, 10:39 AM
Very few leave after their freshman or sophomore years, especially when they are not ready!

"Ready" is a bit of an undefined term. We have had three players leave after either their first or second year. IMHO, D'Amigo wasn't ready, but Pirri was. One can say anything yet about Zalewski.

This happens at all levels of hockey. People want to advance. Alberni Valley wasn't exactly thrilled when Evan Tironese (and SLU recruit Ryan Lough) went to Green Bay in the USHL. I assume that Melanson's HS coach wasn't happy with his leaving after his junior year either.

turk181
05-14-2014, 11:42 AM
High-end recruits leaving early is certainly not limited to RPI.I’ld be more concerned if they start leaving early before even arriving.

hockeymascot
05-14-2014, 12:13 PM
This happens at all levels of hockey. People want to advance. Alberni Valley wasn't exactly thrilled when Evan Tironese (and SLU recruit Ryan Lough) went to Green Bay in the USHL. I assume that Melanson's HS coach wasn't happy with his leaving after his junior year either.

The "leaving" reference was from College hockey (education, development, scholarship) as a frosh, sophomore to professional hockey, specifically the NHL or AHL (for a short period of time). Not to Major Junior or the East Coast.

Ralph Baer
05-14-2014, 12:52 PM
The "leaving" reference was from College hockey (education, development, scholarship) as a frosh, sophomore to professional hockey, specifically the NHL or AHL (for a short period of time). Not to Major Junior or the East Coast.

I realize that was what you were referencing in particular, but there isn't a significant difference. Going from HS before one graduates to junior hockey isn't really any different. At least that is my opinion.

ServinisScores
05-14-2014, 10:06 PM
High-end recruits leaving early is certainly not limited to RPI.

I would bet that given RPI's poor record over the last 10 years, and within the ECAC, the numbers are unusually high at RPI - i/t/o players leaving/per win and players leaving/year within the ECAC. It's not like they're leaving after achieving something....

Ralph Baer
05-15-2014, 12:49 AM
Today is 15 May 2014. There are 142 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 4 October 2014 for the start of next season.

FlagDUDE08
05-15-2014, 05:53 AM
I would bet that given RPI's poor record over the last 10 years, and within the ECAC, the numbers are unusually high at RPI - i/t/o players leaving/per win and players leaving/year within the ECAC. It's not like they're leaving after achieving something....

Also notice that it's almost always a forward. Goaltenders leave early after achieving something, because as a goaltender coach, there's trust there. Even though someone like Allen York only got a couple games in the big one, that's much better than most goaltenders out there.

Diesel, although not quite as good as Pirri at the time but has the chance to be, will have a great pro career. Even if he wasn't the most prolific scorer for us, all of the little things he was doing to create those opportunities is what has made him successful, and why there was belief from here that he was the best player on our team.

drshoen
05-15-2014, 09:14 AM
7 months of drivel?? Ha, it's only been 9 weeks and 4 days, and the thread will probably be locked before the day is out!

FreshFish
05-15-2014, 10:40 AM
I would bet that given RPI's poor record [in the ECAC playoffs] over the last 10 years,

Is this closer to what you meant?

johnk
05-15-2014, 11:15 AM
Is this closer to what you meant?


No I think he was pretty clear. He said RPI's poor record OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. Unless you think 50 games under .500 isn't poor.

jericho
05-15-2014, 02:28 PM
7 months of drivel?? Ha, it's only been 9 weeks and 4 days, and the thread will probably be locked before the day is out!

No one can argue that we win the National Championship of Drivel.