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Wholin1
03-07-2014, 03:34 PM
Clarkson 2-0
Yale 2-1
Dartmouth 2-0
SLU 2-1

Maine-iac
03-07-2014, 04:10 PM
Clarkson 2-0
Yale 2-1
Dartmouth 2-1
St. Lawrence 2-0

I want a total goals tie-breaker ! 55. :D

Kepler
03-07-2014, 04:17 PM
As far as anybody from ESPN goes, Buccigross is probably the most knowledgeable about college hockey

This does not rebut what I said.

Buccigross may be more knowledgeable about HE or the West, but whenever he has talked about the ECAC he has sounded like a Senator who just memorized five lines given to him by an aide 10 minutes before airtime, misremembering three of them.

DrDemento
03-07-2014, 04:45 PM
I suspect my house cat has a more profound knowledge of the ECAC than John Buccigross.

Never underestimate a cat. Dogs are trainable-that does not make them smart in my mind. Cats think-that earns my ultimate respect.;)

Kepler
03-07-2014, 05:01 PM
Never underestimate a cat. Dogs are trainable-that does not make them smart in my mind. Cats think-that earns my ultimate respect.;)

I don't really like dogs but the fact that they're trainable and that cats aren't isn't about intelligence, it follows naturally from their evolution. Dogs descend from pack animals who cooperate on hunts -- the ones who are able to work together better have an evolutionary advantage; they also need to be able to suck up more so that weaker or sick individuals aren't driven from the pack (apes work the same way, which is why dog behavior seems familiar to us). Cats descend from solitary hunters where selection favored the suppression of signaling -- if you find the only source of mice in the field, don't go telling everybody. Likewise, the ability to pick up on other cats' signaling wasn't that important. And of course pack animals fall naturally into pecking orders (hence, trainability) while solitary hunters don't (hence the ability of a cat to take your food and ignore you).

Basically, dogs are MBAs and cats are PhDs. Well, I suppose that does underscore the idea that cats are smarter, though. :)

vicb
03-07-2014, 07:01 PM
OK, the contest is closed to new prognosticators. With 62 contestants, the final stats for Round 1 are:

<pre>
5-12 Winner % 2-0 2-1
Clark 61 98.39% 55 6
Prin 1 1.61% 0 1
6-11
Yale 57 91.94% 32 25
Harv 5 8.06% 0 5
7-10
RPI 30 48.39% 7 23
Dart 32 51.61% 6 26
8-9
SLU 37 59.68% 14 23
Brn 25 40.32% 2 23
</pre>

hockeyplayer1015
03-07-2014, 10:15 PM
Princeton must have missed our memo that they weren't supposed to win a game ;)

ColSkate65
03-07-2014, 10:16 PM
I don't really like dogs but the fact that they're trainable and that cats aren't isn't about intelligence, it follows naturally from their evolution. Dogs descend from pack animals who cooperate on hunts -- the ones who are able to work together better have an evolutionary advantage; they also need to be able to suck up more so that weaker or sick individuals aren't driven from the pack (apes work the same way, which is why dog behavior seems familiar to us). Cats descend from solitary hunters where selection favored the suppression of signaling -- if you find the only source of mice in the field, don't go telling everybody. Likewise, the ability to pick up on other cats' signaling wasn't that important. And of course pack animals fall naturally into pecking orders (hence, trainability) while solitary hunters don't (hence the ability of a cat to take your food and ignore you).

Basically, dogs are MBAs and cats are PhDs. Well, I suppose that does underscore the idea that cats are smarter, though. :)

Cornell Vet School by chance?

Big win for Princeton tonight. I'm not as dumb as some would believe. SLU in OT win....in fact 2 OTs. Shaping up to be an exciting first round.

DrDemento
03-08-2014, 07:43 AM
Cornell Vet School by chance?

Big win for Princeton tonight. I'm not as dumb as some would believe. SLU in OT win....in fact 2 OTs. Shaping up to be an exciting first round.

Princeton TIGERS won because cats are indeed smart. They usually find a way to survive, even when they shold not have-hence the adage about 9 lives.

DrDemento
03-08-2014, 07:50 AM
I don't really like dogs but the fact that they're trainable and that cats aren't isn't about intelligence, it follows naturally from their evolution. Dogs descend from pack animals who cooperate on hunts -- the ones who are able to work together better have an evolutionary advantage; they also need to be able to suck up more so that weaker or sick individuals aren't driven from the pack (apes work the same way, which is why dog behavior seems familiar to us). Cats descend from solitary hunters where selection favored the suppression of signaling -- if you find the only source of mice in the field, don't go telling everybody. Likewise, the ability to pick up on other cats' signaling wasn't that important. And of course pack animals fall naturally into pecking orders (hence, trainability) while solitary hunters don't (hence the ability of a cat to take your food and ignore you).

Basically, dogs are MBAs and cats are PhDs. Well, I suppose that does underscore the idea that cats are smarter, though. :)

All true-and well stated. I had a friend once who bragged about how smart his dog was(Jen and I used to raise German Shepherds and Dobermans). I asked him how long it took him to train his smart dog not to poop on the rug in the house-and he said about 1-2 months. I think it took my mom about a year or two to train me(and I still have a few accidents). We have taken totally feral cats inside after years outdoors-put down a box with litter and voila! In 10 seconds, done-with no mistakes again ever. I know, it proves nothing-but a nice little anecdote anyway.

It all depends on what definition of intelligence you want to use. If you let a cat and dog out in the woods-which one will find and kill food to live? Or which one will come when you call him? The pack mentality is a fine distinction as you are correct that cats are solitary animals(we have litters here that as kittens play with each other all day-but as soon as they mature want to kill each other). But how does that explain female lions in a pride? They are probably the only cats that do exist with a pack mentality.

Just a little diversion here since we have another day or two before this stage of the playoff picking ends and we begin anew.

slu fan
03-08-2014, 08:08 AM
All true-and well stated. I had a friend once who bragged about how smart his dog was(Jen and I used to raise German Shepherds and Dobermans). I asked him how long it took him to train his smart dog not to poop on the rug in the house-and he said about 1-2 months. I think it took my mom about a year or two to train me(and I still have a few accidents). We have taken totally feral cats inside after years outdoors-put down a box with litter and voila! In 10 seconds, done-with no mistakes again ever. I know, it proves nothing-but a nice little anecdote anyway.

It all depends on what definition of intelligence you want to use. If you let a cat and dog out in the woods-which one will find and kill food to live? Or which one will come when you call him? The pack mentality is a fine distinction as you are correct that cats are solitary animals(we have litters here that as kittens play with each other all day-but as soon as they mature want to kill each other). But how does that explain female lions in a pride? They are probably the only cats that do exist with a pack mentality.

Just a little diversion here since we have another day or two before this stage of the playoff picking ends and we begin anew.

I've had Doberman's for the last 25 years --not an ugly one among them, what a bad rap they get. She does get a little upset with me if I don't bring her some fries home from the Saint's hockey games, and last night being late because of the double overtime but she was o.k. along as we won-----

vicb
03-09-2014, 09:08 AM
2 series go the distance tonight, Dartmouth@RPI and Princeton @Clarkson. Round 2 will begin sometime tonight after these games are over.

sshablak
03-09-2014, 10:16 AM
Clarkson 2-0
Yale 2-0
SLU 2-1
RPI 2-1 I'd watch out for Dartmouth, they are playing well now(upset special).

Watch out for Dartmouth !!

vicb
03-09-2014, 09:57 PM
OK Our leader after Round 1 is bcarlisle with a perfect score of 16. Here is the standings.
<pre>
Total
Points
Contestant 1st Rnd
1 bcarlisle 16
2 kdiff77 15
Muskieman 15
rdf8585 15
5 Brian Sullivan 14
Dutchfan 14
GoldenBear 14
hockeyplayer1015 14
Maine-iac 14
QU2201 14
Rjm7272 14
Spaceman 14
13 ajh258 13
Brett Gobe 13
Dutchman 13
johnk 13
17 97osu 12
aweise 12
burgie12 12
cudmud 12
DrDemento 12
FlagDUDE08 12
Go Puckman 12
Jack T. Ripper 12
JennyRN 12
LTsatch 12
Mike Hutter 12
RPIHFH 12
Saints#1 12
sshablak 12
TchrBill 12
TheValleyRaider 12
UnionHockeyManiac 12
vicb 12
Wholin1 12
36 arickeo 11
BigAl 11
goldenbriggsy 11
hawthr 11
hockeyenthusiast 11
llugnut92 11
PutItBackOn 11
Rainman 11
Ralph Baer 11
ufanbill 11
46 drshoen 10
Green14 10
ibanezist00 10
Kepler 10
Nyhockeyguy 10
QUAlum2004 10
red133883 10
REDRocket 10
ShirtlessBob 10
55 bothman 9
FreshFish 9
rfs04 9
StayPuftMMcu 9
UnionTDX04 9
Waite21 9
61 Hopkinja 8
62 ColSkate65 7
</pre>

vicb
03-09-2014, 10:01 PM
OK Round 2 is ready for action. Round 2 is played EXACTLY LIKE Round 1.

You get a point for picking the correct winner of the series and a point for each correct total wins for each team. Max 2nd round point total per series is 4.

If Union wins 2-0 and you pick them to win 2-0 you get 4 points, 1 for Union as the winner, 2 for each Union win and 1 for picking Dartmouth to not win a game.
If Union wins 2-1 and you pick them to win 2-0 you get 3 points
If Union wins 2-0 and you pick Dartmouth to win 2-1 you get 1 point
If Union wins 2-0 and you pick Dartmouth to win 2-0 you get 0 points.

So here are the 2nd round matchups: PLEASE KEEP YOUR PICKS IN THIS EXACT ORDER AS IT IS EASIER FOR ME TO ENTER THESE IN MY EXCEL SPREAD SHEET TO KEEP SCORE.

#10 Dartmouth at #1 Union
#8 SLU at #2 Colgate
#6 Yale at #3 Quinnipiac
#5 Clarkson at #4 Cornell

Example Pick

Union 2-1
Colgate 2-0
Yale 2-0
Clarkson 2-1

You have until 7PM Friday night to get your picks in. Good luck.

FlagDUDE08
03-09-2014, 10:03 PM
#10 Dartmouth at #1 Union: You know what, there's a bit of a continuation factor. Dartmouth in 3.
#8 SLU at #2 Colgate: Clogate in 3.
#6 Yale at #3 Quinnipiac: Q-Pac in 3.
#5Clarkson at #4 Cornell: Cornell in 3.

DrDemento
03-09-2014, 10:04 PM
Vic: Although we are both in decent positions with 12 points-and jen and i are tied-we are withdrawing from the contest this year for personal reason. Has absolutely nothing to do with any of the game results. We look forward to participating every year(even though she has beaten me almost every time) but this year, our hearts are just not into it. Thank you for everything you do. DrD and Jen

hockeyenthusiast
03-09-2014, 10:06 PM
#10 Dartmouth at #1 Union- Union 2-0
#8 SLU at #2 Colgate- Colgate 2-1 (L-W-W...the Colgate way)
#6 Yale at #3 Quinnipiac- Yale 2-1 (W-L-W)
#5 Clarkson at #4 Cornell- Clarkson 2-1 (W-L-W)

QUAlum2004
03-09-2014, 10:18 PM
#10 Dartmouth at #1 Union- Union 2-0
#8 SLU at #2 Colgate- Colgate 2-1
#6 Yale at #3 Quinnipiac- Quinnipiac 2-1
#5 Clarkson at #4 Cornell- Cornell 2-0

Dutchman
03-09-2014, 10:21 PM
#10 Dartmouth at #1 Union: - Union 2-0
#8 SLU at #2 Colgate: - Colgate 2-1
#6 Yale at #3 Quinnipiac: - Quinnipiac 2-1
#5 Clarkson at #4 Cornell: - Cornell 2-1