2014 Frozen Four Info Thread

[alnike]

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Just go to the Phillies games.

[QUAlum2004]

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Phillies game on Friday in between the semi finals and finals
Independence Hall and Liberty Bell
Reading Market Terminal
Constitution Museum
American Jewish History Museum (they have a baseball history exhibit going on right now)
Old City


There is way more to do in Philadelphia than there was in Pittsburgh last year. I just wish Quinnipiac has made it to Philadelphia this year because there is plenty to do there.

[SJHovey]

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Reading Market Terminal


There is way more to do in Philadelphia than there was in Pittsburgh last year. I just wish Quinnipiac has made it to Philadelphia this year because there is plenty to do there.

The Reading Market Terminal is spectacular. My wife and the kids and I stayed right across the street a couple of summers ago when we were in Philly. My problem was that it made me want to eat about 6 meals a day.

[mookie1995]

Our superintendent is shooting for a 4/12 opening.

16 and 18 were still ice rinks on Monday
-but the snow all melted this past weeeknd.

Member clean up day is still on or Saturday, but the course really needs some time to drain. Incredibly wet out here

[hobeydog]

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Additions to the list of things to to in Philly...

Philadelphia Museum of Art
Barnes Foundation Collection
Franklin Institute
Society Hill
South Street
Italian Market
Boat House Row
University of Pennsylvania campus

I've lived in the area for 40 years and would be happy to answer questions about Philly(I'll be out on client calls the next couple of hours). It's a great town with lots of super bars and restaurants and fans should have a blast. The action on Friday will be more in Center City, not the Sports Complex area until late afternoon prep for the Phillies game.

[Sean Pickett]

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I don't know if has been mentioned, but Valley Forge is about 25 miles outside Philadelphia. If you don't have a car the Valley Forge National Park website indicates you can reach it by public transportation.

Sean

[Onion Man]

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I was at Valley Forge last summer and it is completely disappointing. I love history but it was a waste of time, there is a casino at Valley Forge that is pretty good. I would suggest the Mutter Museum if you get the chance. Creepy but neat and the Geno's and Pats cheesesteak places (although overrated) is probably a must do

[UnionHockeyManiac]

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For the out of towners...New York City is just an hour and 20 minutes away by train. You'd have a better time spending your Friday there.

[Siouxfaninseattle]

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Additions to the list of things to to in Philly...

Philadelphia Museum of Art
Barnes Foundation Collection
Franklin Institute
Society Hill
South Street
Italian Market
Boat House Row
University of Pennsylvania campus

I've lived in the area for 40 years and would be happy to answer questions about Philly(I'll be out on client calls the next couple of hours). It's a great town with lots of super bars and restaurants and fans should have a blast. The action on Friday will be more in Center City, not the Sports Complex area until late afternoon prep for the Phillies game.

The art museum and Penn campus are self explanatory, but can you tell us more about the other stuff you have listed? Are there certain parts of town to avoid? Is public transportation safe?

[mookie1995]

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Don't forget the AMPs!!!

[UML]

The prices have really skyrocketed. That's got to be a factor. The increase has far exceeded any measure of normal inflation you could possibly find. That prices out families. That prices out a lot of casual observers as well.

I think one thing no one has been mentioning is that the previous half-decade has seen a number of DIII-caliber scrub schools making the Frozen Four. Congrats they earned it (and shame on the big programs for choking), but when we've had Bemidji, RIT, Umass Lowell, Union, Ferris State, Quinnipiac, and SCSU all in the last 5 years. That's 7 of 20 slots. If you're looking at an event that needs to pull in some casual hockey fans from the host city for walk-up ticket sales, this certainly doesn't help. Ooooh ooohh oooooh but these little guys making it to the FF helps the sport!!!! Questionable FF crowds and horrendous regional crowds in the 16-team format might make one rethink that position. I can only imagine some of the tv ratings for some of these games. Last year's FF had a terrible crowd and must have had absurdly low ratings. Grows the sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK.

ps - I'm sorry if you're a fan of a DIII-caliber scrub school that I mentioned above (or perhaps one I didn't mention above).

I walked by a woman last year in Pittsburgh and she said to me "what's a umass lowell?"! Most people don't like hockey let alone the college game so they most definitely will not be interested if the FF doesn't include the big name schools.

[BU2K]

Don't forget the AMPs!!!

Exxxotica convention in Atlantic City starting Friday.

[hobeydog]

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The art museum and Penn campus are self explanatory, but can you tell us more about the other stuff you have listed? Are there certain parts of town to avoid? Is public transportation safe?

The Sports Complex area, where the three sports venues are located, is in South Philly about 5 miles from Center City, accessible via the Broad Street subway line. The Broad Street line is safe and popular with sports fans. That said, I would not venture into North Philly on the Broad Street line (north of the City Hall station) at night. South Philly is a predominately Italian neighborhood.

Center City Philly is the area bounded by the Delaware River on the east, the Schuylkill River on the west, the Vine Expressway on the north and South Street on the south. It's a very active downtown core and also very residential. The Olde City, Society Hill, South Street area is along the Delaware River. The museums are along the Benjamin Franklin Parkway which runs from City Hall(the geographic center of town at Broad and Market) to the Art Museum. Boat House Row is along the Schuylkill behind the Art Museum.

The numbered streets run north/south from the Delaware River(2nd Street to the Amtrak rail station 30th street)just across the Schuylkill River. Broad Street is the equivalent of 14th Street. The main east/west streets are Vine on the north then, Race, Arch, Chestnut, Walnut, Locust, Pine and South.

Philly's Walnut Street from Broad to Rittenhouse Square is their "Fifth Avenue" along with the stretch along 18th Street from the Square to the Four Seasons Hotel at 18th and the Benjamin Franklin Parkway.

I consider both the Sports Complex area and Center City very safe(I haven't had any problem in 40 years). I don't see any compelling reason for you to visit North Philly, West Philly( west of the Penn campus in University City) or Camden,NJ. If the ferries are running from Penn's Landing to the Battleship New Jersey or the Aquarium on the Camden waterfront, that's OK.

If you plug any of those possibilities into a search engine, there should be a good description of their attractions.

[dxmnkd316]

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Subscribed because this is my first F4

[The Hallucination]

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The Sports Complex area, where the three sports venues are located, is in South Philly about 5 miles from Center City, accessible via the Broad Street subway line. The Broad Street line is safe and popular with sports fans. That said, I would not venture into North Philly on the Broad Street line (north of the City Hall station) at night. South Philly is a predominately Italian neighborhood.

Very good - I think we're staying in the Center City area. If you don't mind being our neighborhood/public transit guide... If a game goes late, how late does that particular subway line run, and/or are their later-night public transit options?

Also, I think our hotel is about 3 miles from the arena; if our group is up for a walk, (a) is it reasonably safe to walk down that stretch of Broad Street? and (b) any bar recommendations along the way?

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We're reasonably excited for this trip all things considered. Baseball Wednesday night, and Friday I think we may be renting a vehicle to drive out to the Yeungling brewery. The teams that made it are... shall we say, *not* our favorites. I think we're actually debating the VIP thing for the semis to aid in pre/between game drinking.