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UnionHockeyManiac
01-28-2014, 01:09 PM
Old thread here: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?105782-2013-2014-Union-Dutchmen-Can-U-Three-Peat/page57

Since the last 20+ pages of the old thread were not about hockey, let's start of this thread with a hockey-related question: How does everyone expect Union to fare in the North Country without Coach Bennett and Bodie for two games and without Eli and Ciampini for one game? A weekend sweep would be huge for this team to move on from last weekend and get back on the right track.

Dutchman
01-28-2014, 01:21 PM
Old thread here: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?105782-2013-2014-Union-Dutchmen-Can-U-Three-Peat/page57

Since the last 20+ pages of the old thread were not about hockey, let's start of this thread with a hockey-related question: How does everyone expect Union to fare in the North Country without Coach Bennett and Bodie for two games and without Eli and Ciampini for one game? A weekend sweep would be huge for this team to move on from last weekend and get back on the right track.

I think we are going to have a very difficult time. Even if we were at full strength we would have a fight on our hands. Being without Bodie against these teams is going to put great stress on our forwards to come back and help out. I don't like it. Bodie does all those little things that make this a great team. Clarkson is 8-2 at home including wins over Yale and Brown. St. Lawrence is one of the top scoring teams in the country. If their goalie has a hot night we are in trouble.

uniontrack
01-28-2014, 02:13 PM
I think it will be a challenge this weekend, however, I have stated before that the Union system is built upon back-ups stepping into vacancies left by either injured or "naughty" starters. Also, I feel this applies to the coaching staff. RB was very emphatic during the presser on Monday that he felt OK about having his assistants run the show...Playing away is always tough, especially with weather and being in a hostile arena, but I would be surprised if we failed to come home with at least two points...

Nottme
01-28-2014, 02:17 PM
Old thread here: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?105782-2013-2014-Union-Dutchmen-Can-U-Three-Peat/page57

Since the last 20+ pages of the old thread were not about hockey, let's start of this thread with a hockey-related question: How does everyone expect Union to fare in the North Country without Coach Bennett and Bodie for two games and without Eli and Ciampini for one game? A weekend sweep would be huge for this team to move on from last weekend and get back on the right track.

Expect 4 pts.

Nick Papagiorgio
01-28-2014, 02:38 PM
Even if we were at full strength we would have a fight on our hands.

No more fighting!

UnionFan4Life
01-28-2014, 03:31 PM
I like our chances vs. St. Lawrence, apparently they have a weak defense and goalie, but they do have some scorers we have to watch. Clarkson will be a battle, but I'm hoping for a positive outcome as always. We have a deep team, guys will have to step up, but after this weekend I think we come back a better and closer team with everybody back.

ADK11
01-28-2014, 03:43 PM
No more fighting!LOL.. thanks, that's the first time I've laughed in a couple days.

A lot of unknowns going into next weekend. Will have 3 freshmen on D all weekend, and I'm assuming Mark Bennett, Coatta & maybe Gonye will have to step up on Friday. More unknown is just what the mental makeup of the team will be. They were very loose and sloppy last weekend and lucky to get 2 points from Harvard. SLU is very good offensively and Clarkson has good defense/goaltending. The question is whether the boys can get back to playing physical disciplined hockey that wins in the ECAC.. the other question (at least in my mind) is how the refs will respond to Union after THE FRACAS.

rdf8585
01-28-2014, 03:48 PM
Free HD broadcast of Friday's game at St. Lawrence:

http://www.saintsathletics.com/sports/2013/9/17/MHOCKEY_0917132022.aspx?path=mhockey

Dutchman
01-28-2014, 04:43 PM
Two years ago we did very well on the road. Last year we were more of a home team, especially down the stretch. This year we are outstanding on the road:
9-1-2, with our only loss at QU (Times Union was neutral). Compare this to RPI, 4-7 on the road. Clealry playing away from Achilles has not hurt us. St. Lawrence has a great power play and we will have to face the Carey Brothers. The Saints are going to be smarting from the Colgate Loss and will have something to prove, but we faced that at N.H, who, despite all those injuries, later split with Maine.

Dutchman
01-28-2014, 04:57 PM
WINS & TIES AGAINST RANKED OPPONENTS:
I know that SLU has been struggley but:
WINS:
North Dakota
Maine (2)
Ferris
Northeastern
TIES:
Yale
Cornell

Got 6, Want More
01-28-2014, 05:02 PM
Two years ago we did very well on the road. Last year we were more of a home team, especially down the stretch. This year we are outstanding on the road:
9-1-2, with our only loss at QU (Times Union was neutral). Compare this to RPI, 4-7 on the road. Clealry playing away from Achilles has not hurt us. St. Lawrence has a great power play and we will have to face the Carey Brothers. The Saints are going to be smarting from the Colgate Loss and will have something to prove, but we faced that at N.H, who, despite all those injuries, later split with Maine.

We've had something to prove all season and we are still waiting to prove it. Fact is our last league win was in mid-November against Dartmouth and we started out trying to find a way to lose that game too with two majors in the first. Our last win was after Thanksgiving at North Dakota.

If Union can keep the play in our zone, where we are a disaster as apparently our guys have forgotten playing defense is also a part of winning hockey, you will take the pressure of a depleted D corps and we make it easy to score. If SLU can get the forecheck working and win some neutral zone puck possession battles, we have a chance. If this season is to have any hope for us, it has to start this weekend. If not, we sure wish you well in the NCAA's.

Got 6, Want More
01-28-2014, 05:04 PM
WINS & TIES AGAINST RANKED OPPONENTS:
I know that SLU has been struggley but:
WINS:
North Dakota
Maine (2)
Ferris
Northeastern
TIES:
Yale
Cornell

We started 6-2-2 and could beat anyone then. Cornell was our first point since 11/29. How did we build on that? We got hammered by a team we have owned giving them several easy 3rd period goals.

hockeyplayer1015
01-28-2014, 05:10 PM
WINS & TIES AGAINST RANKED OPPONENTS:
I know that SLU has been struggley but:
WINS:
North Dakota
Maine (2)
Ferris
Northeastern
TIES:
Yale
Cornell

SLU has had a single tie (Cornell) since Thanksgiving out in North Dakota where they split. Also split against lowly RIT before that. Swept by Clarkson, 2 losses to Vermont, 2 losses to Brown and Yale, and another against Colgate. Also haven't given up less than 4 goals since Thanksgiving.

5 of the 7 games you mention came from the first 4-5 weeks of the season, where SLU was playing pretty good hockey. Since then, it is truly a completely different attitude on the ice.

Wholin1
01-28-2014, 08:20 PM
My hope is that the team has RB's back and comes out playing a lot harder than they did last weekend. Leadership will be crucial and there are character guys aplenty on this team who can fill in for their absent captain. Joe Dumais and Jason Tapp are savvy guys who spend a lot of practice time on ice with the boys and I'm sure they will respond positively. For that matter I'm also hearing good things about Jon Ronan so there will be plenty of bench leadership. I think I'm more concerned about whether the week's ordeal will leave the team emotionally drained. I'm guessing not. A credo of this team is responding to adversity and they've had plenty of that to deal with. I think they will circle the wagons and come home with 3 or 4 more points.

Dutchman
01-28-2014, 09:38 PM
Did anyone listen to USCHO live?

aweise
01-29-2014, 08:11 AM
My hope is that the team has RB's back and comes out playing a lot harder than they did last weekend. Leadership will be crucial and there are character guys aplenty on this team who can fill in for their absent captain. Joe Dumais and Jason Tapp are savvy guys who spend a lot of practice time on ice with the boys and I'm sure they will respond positively. For that matter I'm also hearing good things about Jon Ronan so there will be plenty of bench leadership. I think I'm more concerned about whether the week's ordeal will leave the team emotionally drained. I'm guessing not. A credo of this team is responding to adversity and they've had plenty of that to deal with. I think they will circle the wagons and come home with 3 or 4 more points.

I'd like to say that I get the feeling they'll bounce back from Saturday, but I'm also starting to think that's more of a "hope" than anything else. :o

That said, the boys were sloppy again for the first 30 minutes of the game, but started getting momentum midway through the second period. Not scoring on the 5x3 and subsequent 5x4 hurt a little, but I thought they played much better overall. They might have been able to pull out a win if it wasn't for Diebold's strong 2nd & 3rd periods. I'm hoping that momentum, plus playing for Bennett AND their captain this weekend will inspire them. This team has faced adversity before, but this is a different type of adversity. Let's see how they come out of it.

Goaliefan
01-29-2014, 09:03 AM
Old thread here: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?105782-2013-2014-Union-Dutchmen-Can-U-Three-Peat/page57

Since the last 20+ pages of the old thread were not about hockey, let's start of this thread with a hockey-related question: How does everyone expect Union to fare in the North Country without Coach Bennett and Bodie for two games and without Eli and Ciampini for one game? A weekend sweep would be huge for this team to move on from last weekend and get back on the right track.
Thank you.

About this weekend, all I can say is I'm cautiously optimistic.

Wholin1
01-29-2014, 09:33 AM
Did anyone listen to USCHO live?I listened to the podcast. Ken Schott was interviewed and added little new but did say that he felt Rick Bennett should have received a longer suspension from the ECAC.

Dutchman
01-29-2014, 10:24 AM
Chance for Carr (A) and Gostisbehere (A) to step up and lead with Hatch, Ikkala and Sullivan and the rest of the upperclassmen. Can they play this weekend for their Coach? For their other teammates who will not be their Friday? Can they play for themselves and for a ECAC Title?

For St. Lawrence:
Top Power Play (#1) in the USA (USCHO)
Top 10 offense in the USA
Outstanding Forwards

For US:
Outstanding Defense - Last 6 games - 1.5 gpg. Loses were tight 1-2 affairs
9-1-2 on the road
Veteran Team

Can we play UNION Hockey?
Stevens will be really challenged (again).

rdf8585
01-29-2014, 05:55 PM
Breaking news.... ECAC issues additional suspensions....

Bennett gets 2 from the league, now gone for the next 4 games.

Appert is suspended for Friday.