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Butch
01-10-2014, 07:32 AM
I see no thread for SHU's season. I think this school has the chance to become another QU, being the second largest Catholic school in New England. I am not a Catholic or Christian but doesn't matter to me. Someone contact Bobby Valentine and get him to go all-in on hockey! Build a 2-3000 seat rink on-campus! And change the **** logo and maybe name. The logo sucks. "Pioneers" doesn't sound right, either, when your state's name is a native American word. Those of us in CT should support SHU, IMO. Go to games. We can use a fourth program and SHU is a perfect candidate. The school is getting donations and is still growing.

As for this season so far, not much good to say! Couldn't even win one vs RMU!

PS: SHU needs a new coach. Someone ante up 200K to hire a Rand Pecknold.

QUAlum2004
01-10-2014, 08:36 AM
Until they get a real rink and put out a real commitment they will never even come close to becoming another QU. I don't even see them taking the next step with a new rink. Total pipe dream for them to ever think they will get on the level of a Quinnipiac.

LTsatch
01-10-2014, 09:21 AM
I am still surprised that SHU is still a D1 program. Maybe little Bobby can figure something out to bring them back up the ladder. Up until three seasons ago they were contending for an Atlantic title, unfortunately that still did not help attendance. As we saw last season, there are already two great strong programs in the greater New Haven/ Bridgeport metro area, along with the Sound Tigers and popular high school hockey, there may just not be enough college hockey fans in the area on a given weekend. I am an avid hockey fan and live 4 miles from SHU's home rink and have still not been to a game.

QUAlum2004
01-10-2014, 09:34 AM
I am still surprised that SHU is still a D1 program. Maybe little Bobby can figure something out to bring them back up the ladder. Up until three seasons ago they were contending for an Atlantic title, unfortunately that still did not help attendance. As we saw last season, there are already two great strong programs in the greater New Haven/ Bridgeport metro area, along with the Sounds Tigers and popular high school hockey, there may just not be enough college hockey fans in the area on a given weekend. I am an avid hockey fan and live 4 miles from SHU's home rink and have still not been to a game.

Who would want to go to the dump that is the Milford Ice Pavilion?

LTsatch
01-10-2014, 10:15 AM
Who would want to go to the dump that is the Milford Ice Pavilion?

Don't forget where you guys came from, another dump of a rink. ;) QU is very lucky to have a dedicated AD with vision, I don't think SHU has the resources to make the quantum leap that QU took, too risky. They could take small steps and try to play more games in Bridgeport, but how many fans are going to show to justify the expense of renting the arena, UConn will have the same problem in Hartford.

FlagDUDE08
01-10-2014, 10:35 AM
Don't forget where you guys came from, another dump of a rink. ;) QU is very lucky to have a dedicated AD with vision, I don't think SHU has the resources to make the quantum leap that QU took, too risky. They could take small steps and try to play more games in Bridgeport, but how many fans are going to show to justify the expense of renting the arena, UConn will have the same problem in Hartford.

Hey now, Northford was a cool place. Having a decent arena with great facilities does help to bring in recruits, though.

LTsatch
01-10-2014, 12:24 PM
Any Division One team that plays in something called an Ice Pavilion deserves to be mocked! Of course they could upgrade to Bridgeport's lovely Wonderland of Ice, where Fairfield Prep draws more than SHU.

Butch
01-10-2014, 01:21 PM
Any Division One team that plays in something called an Ice Pavilion deserves to be mocked! Of course they could upgrade to Bridgeport's lovely Wonderland of Ice, where Fairfield Prep draws more than SHU.
What's funny is I went to Fairfield Prep and I've never been there. Did go to last year's championship game at Ingalls. Someone from ND-WH wanted to beat me up after the game. But that does sound like an excellent idea. I will admit, the food at Milford is good! You should go for the love of hockey; these players need love. The quality of play is good.

New coach is something to consider. QU got where it got because of Pecknold. Man will have a statue of himself erected in Hamden. But we should encourage SHU and local media to focus some more of their resources on helping make SHU a hockey school. Not many schools get such an opportunity and Fairfield County can REALLY use top tier college hockey. Right off the Merritt Parkway. Drive to and from games would be nice. I use CT-15 to get to QU games and I-95 to get to Yale games. It would also help propel SHU in perception amongst their target audience for college students. SHU hockey would be more desirable a product than the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, methinks, with proper maneuvers. AHL tickets here are not cheap. College hockey tickets are. I can get a Nashville Predators ticket or Anaheim Ducks ticket for the price of a college game anywhere here.

LTsatch
01-10-2014, 02:19 PM
Someone from ND-WH wanted to beat me up after the game.

QU got where it got because of Pecknold. Man will have a statue of himself erected in Hamden.

I can get a Nashville Predators ticket or Anaheim Ducks ticket for the price of a college game anywhere here.

Butch, I am sorry but I should have put "lovely" in quotes as the Wonderland of Ice is no better than Milford.

I am a West Haven blue Devil fan, so I feel your pain with the ND boys.

Most credit Quinnipiac President Lahey for having the plan for the expansion.

My 23 year old daughter paid for her own Predators ticket last night, odd hockey town, but she loves it there. Sooo inexpensive

Found an interesting article about area hockey and QU's expansion, makes good reading and gives you an idea about how much SHU would have to put into being another QU

http://deadspin.com/how-quinnipiac-tore-up-and-rewrote-new-havens-hockey-h-472545033

Butch
01-10-2014, 03:36 PM
Butch, I am sorry but I should have put "lovely" in quotes as the Wonderland of Ice is no better than Milford.

I am a West Haven blue Devil fan, so I feel your pain with the ND boys.

Most credit Quinnipiac President Lahey for having the plan for the expansion.

My 23 year old daughter paid for her own Predators ticket last night, odd hockey town, but she loves it there. Sooo inexpensive

Found an interesting article about area hockey and QU's expansion, makes good reading and gives you an idea about how much SHU would have to put into being another QU

http://deadspin.com/how-quinnipiac-tore-up-and-rewrote-new-havens-hockey-h-472545033
I didn't mean such a development like that. The school's Catholic affiliation will help the school take care of itself. I just meant developing the hockey program. It is the second largest Catholic school in New England now as stated before, which was a surprise to me. If they can buy the adjacent golf course, that would make expansion super easy. I only was speaking of Pecknold from a hockey program point of view. I am well aware QU has undergone a huge academic expansion.

Good news, Mr Valentine does appear to be open ears about making SHU a hockey school. Let's go to games! The more people go to games, the more others follow. There are people there who are cheering as is. Can't go wrong with another D1 college hockey program. It's really up to us. More college hockey games can't hurt, right?

SHU plays in Milford because ND-Fairfield plays there.

Jim
01-10-2014, 03:45 PM
Until they get a real rink and put out a real commitment they will never even come close to becoming another QU. I don't even see them taking the next step with a new rink. Total pipe dream for them to ever think they will get on the level of a Quinnipiac. I don't know. Have you ever been to Bentley's Ryan Arena? I was there once a couple of years ago (I was in Boston on business and UConn was playing so I went. About 50 hardy souls there, it was colder inside than out, and the place smelled like a subway mens room...But Bentley is a pretty good AHA team and has knocked off its share of "major" programs over the last few years. Realistically, I think that is more what Sacred Heart can aspire to and more or less what they were a few years ago. A good AHA program that is regularly in the hunt. They aren't going to be Quinnipiac, at least not for a long long while. But they could be Bentle/Canisius type program.

schiegs
01-10-2014, 03:49 PM
As a Bentley fan, I'm just glad to see someone else getting thrown under the bus for a change.

Butch
01-10-2014, 03:50 PM
I don't know. Have you ever been to Bentley's Ryan Arena? I was there once a couple of years ago (I was in Boston on business and UConn was playing so I went. About 50 hardy souls there, it was colder inside than out, and the place smelled like a subway mens room...But Bentley is a pretty good AHA team and has knocked off its share of "major" programs over the last few years. Realistically, I think that is more what Sacred Heart can aspire to and more or less what they were a few years ago. A good AHA program that is regularly in the hunt. They aren't going to be Quinnipiac, at least not for a long long while. But they could be Bentle/Canisius type program.
The AHA is not a bad conference. It has the support of the Army and the Air Force. But a solid hockey program is a GREAT way to advance their school and I think they realize that.

Jim
01-10-2014, 03:52 PM
As a Bentley fan, I'm just glad to see someone else getting thrown under the bus for a change. I do have one question sheigs. Does JAR always smell that way???

schiegs
01-10-2014, 04:10 PM
I do have one question sheigs. Does JAR always smell that way???

Only when UConn comes to town. ;)

Seriously, the place is an institutional embarassment for a school that has an otherwise beautiful campus. There is fleeting sentimentality by some (think the old Curry Hicks Cage at UMass), but I personally don't think it even is deserving of that.

LTsatch
01-10-2014, 04:10 PM
I didn't mean such a development like that. The school's Catholic affiliation will help the school take care of itself. I just meant developing the hockey program. It is the second largest Catholic school in New England now as stated before, which was a surprise to me. If they can buy the adjacent golf course, that would make expansion super easy. I only was speaking of Pecknold from a hockey program point of view. I am well aware QU has undergone a huge academic expansion.

Good news, Mr Valentine does appear to be open ears about making SHU a hockey school. Let's go to games! The more people go to games, the more others follow. There are people there who are cheering as is. Can't go wrong with another D1 college hockey program. It's really up to us. More college hockey games can't hurt, right?

SHU plays in Milford because ND-Fairfield plays there.

We don't dare mix the Catholics and Jesuits ;) I am not sure which arm of the Church is in control of SHU, but if it is the Archdiocese of Hartford, you can forget about spending money on anything. They are downsizing, consolidating parishes and closing schools all over the state. The initiative would have to come from alumni and donors. Maybe UCONN will let you guys have the shell of Frietas for a start. A 2500 seat butler building with decent locker rooms and training facilities would be all that is needed to really upgrade.

schiegs
01-10-2014, 04:19 PM
Most credit Quinnipiac President Lahey for having the plan for the expansion.

My 23 year old daughter paid for her own Predators ticket last night, odd hockey town, but she loves it there. Sooo inexpensive

Found an interesting article about area hockey and QU's expansion, makes good reading and gives you an idea about how much SHU would have to put into being another QU

http://deadspin.com/how-quinnipiac-tore-up-and-rewrote-new-havens-hockey-h-472545033

I've always given Kudos to Lahey and QU. I admire risk takers, as long as we acknowledge this is a risk. A half-billion dollar debt load for a school that size? They better hope rates don't increase.

Butch
01-10-2014, 04:22 PM
We don't dare mix the Catholics and Jesuits ;) I am not sure which arm of the Church is in control of SHU, but if it is the Archdiocese of Hartford, you can forget about spending money on anything. They are downsizing, consolidating parishes and closing schools all over the state. The initiative would have to come from alumni and donors. Maybe UCONN will let you guys have the shell of Frietas for a start. A 2500 seat butler building with decent locker rooms and training facilities would be all that is needed to really upgrade.
I AM a UConn alum. But our program is not nearby. I attend other college hockey games in the state. Primarily Yale and QU. (I think Cavanaugh will do very well at UConn. Muahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.) I love the tradition and rink of Yale.

I think SHU was started with the permission of the Archdiochese of Bridgeport; from what I see, SHU is getting big-time donors, such as Linda McMahon and Jack Welch.

lmg6841
01-10-2014, 05:07 PM
I had the "forture" of getting to see RIT play at SHU. Boy was that rink a dump. Myself and my group of 5 friends from RIT were the loudest and most engaged people there. It just completes the picture of why they're such a sad program.

Butch
01-10-2014, 10:46 PM
Good news for CT and SHU hockey, the administration of the athletic department does realize the value of hockey and has the desire to create a solid program. When it comes to the facilities, in their words, "NO question...a state of the art arena would certainly redefine our men's and women's hockey programs." There you go, SHU has the desire to succeed in hockey and be a hockey school. They do compete at the D-1AA level in football already.

Someone pass it on to the Atlantic Hockey office to remove the 12 scholarship per team limit. That holds programs back.