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purpleinnebraska
12-20-2013, 05:16 PM
Concentrate on what he did with the growth of the Final Five into college hockey's second biggest event? 8 national championships? 10 Hobey Bakers? Or "The Guy Who Failed to Save College Hockey's Best Conference"?

I don't think anyone could have kept MN and WI on board. They're Big 14 in every other sport, and their membership in that conference pre-dates even their WCHA membership. Now, the other 6 who left...I have to think there was more he could have done. Those schools traded Kato, BSU, Tech, and UAA as conference opponents for Miami and Western Michigan. That's not a deal so delicious that nothing could have been done.

Oh well. Remember the good stuff, right?

Squarebanks
12-20-2013, 07:50 PM
I think the writing was on the wall once the nWCHA transition was complete. Best of luck wherever life takes him.

That said, the nWCHA has a good opportunity to bring in a dynamic leader. It'll be interesting to watch the transition unfold.

Also, does this mean the WCHA will move its office away from Denver?

huskyfan
12-20-2013, 07:53 PM
remember the good stuff.

I don't think it was his fault. MN and WI had to leave and DU and UND were hell bent on making a "superior" league. which is pretty ironic as that was what we already had.

huskyfan
12-20-2013, 07:55 PM
Also, does this mean the WCHA will move its office away from Denver?

finally.

Squarebanks
12-20-2013, 07:59 PM
finally.

What's a likely destination? Minneapolis perhaps? Probably depends somewhat on who they hire.

Squarebanks
12-20-2013, 08:06 PM
Also, I'd say remember the good stuff. The Big 10 schools were contractually obligated to play in a B1G league once that conference decided to sponsor hockey...nothing could have been done.

UND and DU were lost causes...all they really have to show for it now is a similar conference schedule and a tv deal on an obscure sports network that most people don't get.

The WCHA was a heck of a league for a long time under his watch...almost like the SEC of college hockey in many ways.

purpleinnebraska
12-20-2013, 08:12 PM
What's a likely destination? Minneapolis perhaps? Probably depends somewhat on who they hire.

4 schools in Michigan, 1 in Ohio, why not Grand Rapids? Although I think the Xcel should still host every other tournament

Jimjamesak
12-20-2013, 08:29 PM
4 schools in Michigan, 1 in Ohio, why not Grand Rapids? Although I think the Xcel should still host every other tournament
Well at least one, maybe two, of the Michigan schools are actually closer to Minnesota. And travel connections for pretty much the whole conference is easier from Minnesota.

JohnsonsJerseys
12-20-2013, 09:18 PM
What's a likely destination? Minneapolis perhaps? Probably depends somewhat on who they hire.
Houghton, MI - Lot's of low cost office space available.
On a serious note, I could see Green Bay being chosen if they don't pick a city that houses a league member.

As for how Bruce is remembered, regardless of what the WCHA won under his watch, his legacy will be what was lost.
Ryan J

Biddco
12-20-2013, 09:26 PM
Now that he is leaving, I just have a feeling that the WCHA's social media presence will be much better.

I will always wonder how he acted like he didn't know that the NCHC was forming when Schlossman had a report (and other people reported his report about a new super league). Did he talk to people and they lied to him? Or did he sit pat and thought nothing would happen?

He obviously led the league through its best days but no doubt his legacy will have a large "but" at the end of it.

Squarebanks
12-20-2013, 10:02 PM
4 schools in Michigan, 1 in Ohio, why not Grand Rapids? Although I think the Xcel should still host every other tournament

Travel is a lot easier from MSP than Grand Rapids (or Green Bay). If HQ goes to michigan, I'd bet on Detroit or possibly Lansing.

If it's a centralized location they're after, Chicago would also work.

Tipsy McStagger
12-21-2013, 01:30 AM
Why does McLeod get credit for the power of the WCHA in his heyday or the strength of the Final Five? Shouldn't the credit go to the member schools?

Same for the blame of the schools leaving. I think unless he got some powerful school to join the conference or had a great idea that changed the game, he was largely a figurehead. That is what most commissioners are.

HarleyMC
12-21-2013, 06:44 AM
Now that he is leaving, I just have a feeling that the WCHA's social media presence will be much better.

I will always wonder how he acted like he didn't know that the NCHC was forming when Schlossman had a report (and other people reported his report about a new super league). Did he talk to people and they lied to him? Or did he sit pat and thought nothing would happen?

He obviously led the league through its best days but no doubt his legacy will have a large "but" at the end of it.

I disagree, I don't see any reason to slap an asterisk next to Bruce McLeod's legacy. Most will remember him as a dedicated individual and leader in the sport who made significant contributions to the expansion of the college hockey during his notable and successful 20 year tenure as WCHA commissioner (http://www.wcha.com/men/wcha/commissioner.php).

This subject has been discussed ad infinitum/ad nauseam, but I think it's important to reiterate the facts here. It's not as if McLeod acted as if he didn't know about the potential formation of a new league. In actual fact, UND AD Brian Faison and Gwoz who were the prime movers in initiating the breakup, made absolutely no attempt to contact him, negotiate nor include him in the information loop whatsoever! Keep in mind, WCHA member schools had already discussed the possibility of adding additional members to bolster the league's profile and add a recruiting edge in their annual meeting that year to offset the imminent departure of Mn and Wis.


“I’m not sure why or whatever; I’m not privy to those conversations. I’ve never had a conversation with North Dakota or Denver about their plans that they’re pushing,” McLeod said. “At this point, I haven’t thought about Plan B at all. I’m still working on the assumption that we’re together as 10 [teams after Minnesota and Wisconsin leave for the Big Ten] and, as unanimously directed by the group in Florida [at league meetings in April], can consider extending an invitation to anybody that could strengthen the league. And that’s our plan.”

It's clear McLeod is not to be blamed for the defection of current NCHC teams from the WCHA. Mn and Wis had no choice but to affirm their allegiance to the Big Ten...that's a no brainer. But what UND and Denver (primarily Faison and their UND boosters) did was nothing more than a power grab to become more competitive financially and in recruiting by choosing the "six cutest girls at the prom" that would ultimately compete with the BTHC in recruiting and TV revenue by inking a big media package comparable to BTN thus providing national exposure and equally profitable dividends (NBCSN). How self absorbed were they? When Notre Dame, after a long deliberation, finally decided their preference was to join the NCHC with their NBCSN media package in tow, UND said "sorry we don't want you" because ND had more executive clout with NBCSN than UND and of course UND was far too self absorbed to acquiesce to anyone at that point. The onus in the end was they signed a relatively insignificant media deal with CBS Sports.


Faison said the new conference enables UND to take care of two big concerns. "From a scheduling standpoint and recruiting standpoint," he said, "we knew we had to compete with the Big Ten Conference. A group coalesced with the same perspectives, issues and concerns."

Then in an untimely and presumptuous manner with fervent speculation looming large throughout the ranks of college hockey, jack***** egomaniac Faison hints to the press that he has "concerns" about the administration of the WCHA, which essentially deflected the blame for the breakup on Bruce McLeod. What a crock of ****.:D


Faison told the Herald that he has concerns with “the administrative side of the WCHA.”


North Dakota athletic director Brian Faison told the Herald. “At the end of the day we have to do what’s in the best interest of UND hockey, and that’s what we’re going to do. It’s an emotional decision. It’s a business decision.”

I thought it was comical that when the decisive moment finally arrived to announce the NCHC to the world, a 20-minute press conference was held to unveil the big plan for the league to challenge the Big Ten, but it was spent mostly discussing the historical tradition of the room the meeting was held in, not the earth shaking impact that the NCHC "super conference" was hoping to create.:D In retrospect, despite their grandiose expectations and agenda for self preservation, most would agree there's NOTHING "super" at all about the so-called "super conference", it was pure greedy BS. Merry Christmas.:D

willythekid
12-21-2013, 09:57 AM
To all that it may concern,
The NCHC is purely about greedy b.s. nothing more...
Sincerely, the big ten conference

revfnb
12-21-2013, 10:42 AM
McLeod saved the present WCHA and I will always be gratefully for that. He is leaving a winner. Good for him.

gfmorris
12-21-2013, 09:02 PM
He helped create a home for UAH back in the day (College Hockey America), to the point that our 7>6>5>4-team league named our postseason championship after him. The last one was won by UAH, and after a couple of years out in the cold, it's pretty clear to me that he was a big part of the process of us coming into the nWCHA. I'm very grateful.

GFM

uaafanblog
12-21-2013, 11:44 PM
I think it's hard to say exactly how effective Bruce was. The league obviously prospered for many years before the ButtHurt teams started their crap (and CC A.D. Ken Ralph was more of a player than he's being "credited" for here) but a Commish's job at this level is to be the focal point for communications amongst the AD's (who have the power). There was more than a fair bit of "us vs. them" voting over the years in the WCHA with the "haves" and "have nots" usually on opposite sides of the table. Could he have done something more to find common ground between the competing factions? I think a really creative and ambitious Commish might have ... Bruce has for a long while been in the swan song of his hockey career and hence probably not full of creativity and ambition as he once was. That's ok. He still did his job with integrity.

It wasn't an easy job for the guy but he was always a delight to speak with ... had a very friendly manner and always tried to be open about goings on. With so much of what he did occurring behind the scenes then it's hard to gauge his success. A new commish will have some of the same challenges as there are already some schools in the conference who will probably be thorns in the side of the other league members.

The thing about the WCHA's old boys from Fort Frances ... they all gave much of themselves to the WCHA. Best of luck to Bruce.

Pink Pony
01-13-2014, 02:58 PM
DU and UND were hell bent on making a "superior" league. which is pretty ironic as that was what we already had.

You are right. If it is not broken don't fix it. McLeod could have prevented this from happening. He didn't.

Pink Pony
01-13-2014, 03:43 PM
Now that he is leaving.

I will always wonder how he acted like he didn't know that the NCHC was forming when Schlossman had a report (and other people reported his report about a new super league). Did he talk to people and they lied to him? Or did he sit pat and thought nothing would happen?



I would like to know more on this. Was he sitting on his hands when this took place.

A lack of leadership, he lead the ship to reef.

Pink Pony
01-14-2014, 09:15 AM
McLeod saved the present WCHA

He also saved UMD athletics.