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DrDemento
09-23-2013, 08:17 PM
I am sure that he knows that he needs to gain weight, as even Melanson is fat compared to him. :)

Having stood close to Melanson years ago at Delbarton High-he is decidely thin but if his current listing is correct at 170, he has put on a bit which might be very helpful against some of the bigger boys he is now facing.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-23-2013, 08:37 PM
Kasdorf's team in the USHL also didn't understand the concept of defence. If he's a rookie, so be it, time to develop. I took a look at the rest of the team's stats before writing that, FWIW. Of course, there's plenty the sheet doesn't say, so obviously something is seen. He's 17. Looking at his team stats from last year, the Wolves scored about 2.7 GPG and almost 4 GPG. Some of that is goaltending sure, but if you're getting outscored every night, chances are the team started taking a lot of chances and hanging their keepers out to dry a lot. (I note that the other starter had a higher GAA than Dillon did, and Alec had 3 SO's in 24 starts.) Bottom line is you pigeonholed the kid without knowing a thing about him, and what Appert sees in him.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-23-2013, 08:50 PM
Nice article with a bit more info on Dillon.

http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/hockey/long-lanky-grizzlies-goalie-alec-dillon-a-tall-talent-1.608155

Ralph Baer
09-23-2013, 09:10 PM
Agree 100%. I have a feeling that if Kasdorf has a great year he will sign. I hope SA gives the new goalie and Diebold some playing time especially in the ooc games early.I think it is crucial to know for sure what we have for tenders in the event he does bolt.Who knows maybe kassy and coach have already had this conversation. I expect that Diebold will get playing time early on. I don't expect to see much time if any at all for Soffer.

Ralph Baer
09-23-2013, 09:13 PM
I also agree but surely it will turn out to be mostly about the money offered. Kasdorf has the world of opportunity ahead of him and an injury in college could stop much of that. If he has a good year and the money is right-how could anyone blame him for taking it. I agree with that, but it also depends a lot as to where Winnipeg thinks he will develop best. here's to hoping that they regard SA as a great developer of goalies.

Ralph Baer
09-23-2013, 09:15 PM
He's 17. Looking at his team stats from last year, the Wolves scored about 2.7 GPG and almost 4 GPG. Some of that is goaltending sure, but if you're getting outscored every night, chances are the team started taking a lot of chances and hanging their keepers out to dry a lot. (I note that the other starter had a higher GAA than Dillon did, and Alec had 3 SO's in 24 starts.) Bottom line is you pigeonholed the kid without knowing a thing about him, and what Appert sees in him.

Thanks for that info. Up to a point, I think that playing for a bad defensive team is good for a goalie's development.

Ralph Baer
09-23-2013, 09:17 PM
Nice article with a bit more info on Dillon.

http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/hockey/long-lanky-grizzlies-goalie-alec-dillon-a-tall-talent-1.608155

I don't think that article says any more than the one linked in post 287. :p

Sorry, I had to say it. :D

Ralph Baer
09-23-2013, 09:19 PM
I'm not really worried about his weight-unless they were exaggerating the 170;) But comparing him to guys several inches shorter like Miller really is not reassuring for me. I suppose I need to see some film of him in action or in person before making any sort of judgement. But for now-i still think he needs some Lasagna or Chicken Parm dinners in the next year or two. The comparison to York however is most accurate.

DrDemento
09-23-2013, 10:32 PM
The comparison to York however is most accurate.

I would change the word most in your post-perhaps using the words more accurate. As you well know, many of the posted hieghts and weights we get early on are shall we say, unreliable? I still need to see some video of this new fellow to better judge. As most here know, I do like the bigger fellows on my team-especially on defense-but i have never really felt one way or the other about goaltenders. As Wicked pointed out earlier-these days the equipment can make even the smallest guy look huge in the crease. There might even be a chance still for you RB;) as long as you can still do the splits.

rsfs04
09-24-2013, 12:03 AM
Seth can't stop, Bradley Bell, D 17yo. Says very clearly he will be here for 14-15

https://twitter.com/Canuckscout/status/382352619194171392

https://twitter.com/bradleybell_/status/382279713802051584

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 01:43 AM
Thanks rsfs04 for keeping up with this overnight. We seem to be overloading with left defensemen.

I am getting more convinced that the years that are being assigned to recruits are almost always fluid. I have a hard time thinking that someone playing in the NOJHL will be ready to play as an 18 year old, but ...

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 01:59 AM
Western College Hockey Blog article on Bell's commitment which states that he was an 3rd-round OHL draft choice. http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2013/9/23/4764888/rpi-engineers-rensselaer-seth-appert-ecac-bradley-bell-sudbury-nickel-barons-nojhl

Heisenberg shows Bell as a potential 2015 recruit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AoPLTHefMmmTdHkwbDlIemR5c2dGSXZveWF3OWNJZ VE&gid=8.

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 02:04 AM
Bell's NOJHL page http://www.nojhl.com/roster_players/3357819?subseason=113759.

His Elite Prospect page http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=125025. He won the NOBHL (Bantam) best d-man award in 2011.

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 02:04 AM
# Name Ps commitm. Team (League) Year DOB Ht Wt Hometown Gm- G- A- P- PM Next Gm
28 Bradley Bell LD 09/23/13 Sudbury Nickel Barons (NOJHL) 2014 05/26/96 5'11" 185 Sudbury, ON 7- 0- 2- 2- 6 09/25/13
16 Carlos Fornaris C 02/13/13 Cedar Rapids Roughriders (USHL) 2014 02/17/95 5'08" 156 Miami, FL 0- 0- 0- 0- 0 09/27/13
22 Charlie Manley LD 12/19/11 Austin Bruins (NAHL) 2014 07/16/96 5'09" 175 Orchard Park, NY 2- 0- 0- 0- 0 09/27/13
27 Drew Melanson #* LW 01/28/11 Omaha Lancers (USHL) 2014 01/10/95 5'10" 160 Paramus, NJ 0- 0- 0- 0- 0 09/27/13
23 Meirs Moore LD 05/20/13 Sioux City Musketeers (USHL) 2014 12/04/94 5'09" 175 Duluth, MN 1- 0- 0- 0- 0 09/28/13
77 Michael Prapavessis LD 02/02/13 Toronto Lakeshore Patriots(OJHL)14/15 01/07/96 6'01" 180 Oakville, ON 6- 0- 5- 5- 2 09/28/13
15 Evan Tironese LW 05/01/12 Green Bay Gamblers (USHL) 2014 08/02/95 5'09" 163 Qualicum Beach, BC 2- 1- 2- 3- 0 09/27/13
27 Jared Wilson LD 09/19/13 Alberni Valley Bulldogs (BCHL) 2014 08/27/94 6'03" 190 Calgary, AB 7- 3- 5- 8- 24 09/27/13
31 Alec Dillon G 09/22/13 Victoria Grizzlies (BCHL) 2015 05/05/96 6'05" 170 Victoria BC 2- 0- 2-0-4.00-.862 09/27/13


Women
21 Amanda Kimmerle D 08/15/13 Anoka H.S. (Northwest Suburban) 2014 xx/xx/9x x'xx" xxx Anoka, MN 0- 0- 0- 0- 0
? Shayna Tomlinson F 04/08/13 St Pauls School 2014 xx/xx/95 x'xx" xxx Wolfeboro, NH 0- 0- 0- 0- 0
18 Assabet Valley U19 0- 0- 0- 0- 0
total 0- 0- 0- 0- 0

* In the RPI directory
# Known to have signed Letter of Intent

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 03:02 AM
Some comments from Bell when he was selected in the 2012 OHL draft http://www.thesudburystar.com/2012/04/09/good-day-for-locals-at-ohl-priority-selection.


Bradley Bell, a defenceman from the Copper Cliff minor midgets, was the first local player chosen when he was taken by the Mississauga St. Michaels Majors with the 15th pick of the third round.

"It's a big accomplishment and I've been looking forward to it all year," Bell said.

"I hope to show them my best and try to make the team next year."

Bell was pleased to go to a perennial challenger in the Eastern Conference.

"Obviously, it's a good team right in the middle of Toronto and my cousins live there, so that should be fun," he said. "They play here against the Wolves lots, too, so I will get to have lots of friends and family come watch me play."

Bell was relieved to get the draft out of the way so he can return his focus to preparing for the jump to the OHL.

"It feels good that it's finally over and I can get back to training," he said. "It gives me more motivation."

I wonder what made him decide to go the college route, or if he is using RPI as leverage for Mississauga. Perhaps he just didn't make the team the last two years or decided that a 5'11" dman is better off going to college.

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 07:13 AM
I wonder what made him decide to go the college route, or if he is using RPI as leverage for Mississauga. Perhaps he just didn't make the team the last two years or decided that a 5'11" dman is better off going to college.

Partially answering my own question http://www.timminspress.com/2013/09/03/puck-set-to-drop-on-nojhl-season.


The Nickel Barons will also have a lot of experience back on the blue line, which Blanchard feels could be a strength of the team.

“We have Bradley Bell coming back,” he said.

“We didn’t think he would be coming back because he had made an OHL team, but he has decided to go the NCAA route.

“So he will be one of the top D-men in the league, which is nice to have him back for a year.

Still not clear why he didn't go to the OHL, but he did make the team. My reason is as good as any.

FlagDUDE08
09-24-2013, 08:35 AM
That's a lot of D, and almost certainly a number would be deferred to 2015, maybe even one to 2016.

We currently have on D a total of two seniors (LeBœuf, Dolan), two juniors (Curadi, Leonard), three sophomores (Bokenfohr, Hampton, Bradley), and one freshman (Reno). Gotta think that Moore and Wilson would be 2014 merely due to age (although Laliberté did come in as a 21-year-old), while the other three are 96ers.

As for them playing LD in juniors, that doesn't mean they can't move over to right. Granted, with the exception of Meirs Moore, all of our D recruits shoot left-handed (Moore doesn't shoot with either hand according to eliteprospects). I'm not going to complain about their dexterity being a natural southpaw myself, perhaps one of them will play opposite side similar to what Patrick Cullen (although a forward) did for a while at RPI, or it will be something similar to what we had in the 2011-12 season when we had only two regular playing right-handed D.

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 08:52 AM
That's a lot of D, and almost certainly a number would be deferred to 2015, maybe even one to 2016.

We currently have on D a total of two seniors (LeBœuf, Dolan), two juniors (Curadi, Leonard), three sophomores (Bokenfohr, Hampton, Bradley), and one freshman (Reno). Gotta think that Moore and Wilson would be 2014 merely due to age (although Laliberté did come in as a 21-year-old), while the other three are 96ers.

As for them playing LD in juniors, that doesn't mean they can't move over to right. Granted, with the exception of Meirs Moore, all of our D recruits shoot left-handed (Moore doesn't shoot with either hand according to eliteprospects). I'm not going to complain about their dexterity being a natural southpaw myself, perhaps one of them will play opposite side similar to what Patrick Cullen (although a forward) did for a while at RPI, or it will be something similar to what we had in the 2011-12 season when we had only two regular playing right-handed D.

That agrees with my thoughts with the addition possibility that one or more of our existing defensemen might leave early or Bokenfohr might stick to golf.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-24-2013, 10:10 AM
Seth can't stop, Bradley Bell, D 17yo. Says very clearly he will be here for 14-15

https://twitter.com/Canuckscout/status/382352619194171392

https://twitter.com/bradleybell_/status/382279713802051584

Great news - Seth is having himself quite a week ! Now if he can bag a Francophone and NE prep school kid, the trip will be a home run.:D

Ralph Baer
09-24-2013, 10:55 AM
Great news - Seth is having himself quite a week ! Now if he can bag a Francophone and NE prep school kid, the trip will be a home run.:D

Hopefully large forwards. :)