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boblav1
12-04-2014, 11:52 AM
Makes sense. No disrespect and I always appreciate perseverance, but c'mon recruiting can be better than this.

If you look back through the prior posts there are many on this thread that feel the same way.

UMLFan
12-04-2014, 11:55 AM
Like the perseverance of the kid. Have to hope the best for him.

UMLFan
12-10-2014, 01:46 PM
One person's view of next year's Hockey East recruiting (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2014/12/10/7361239/2015-hockey-east-recruiting-rankings-boston-college-boston-university-providence-vermont-notre-dame).

Patronick
12-10-2014, 11:54 PM
One person's view of next year's Hockey East recruiting (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2014/12/10/7361239/2015-hockey-east-recruiting-rankings-boston-college-boston-university-providence-vermont-notre-dame).

Nothing to worry about!

leswp1
12-11-2014, 03:29 PM
We suck. Disaster. Nothing good will ever happen. We have no good recruits coming. We have no recruits coming. Anyone ever get tired of looking at what should happen and saying how bad we should be? This is a rebuilding year so we should really suck. We have no goalies who are any good. We look terrible on paper. I wonder if next years team will get the memo this years team forgot to read. It isn't about a player. It is about the system.

Patronick
12-11-2014, 08:54 PM
We suck. Disaster. Nothing good will ever happen. We have no good recruits coming. We have no recruits coming. Anyone ever get tired of looking at what should happen and saying how bad we should be? This is a rebuilding year so we should really suck. We have no goalies who are any good. We look terrible on paper. I wonder if next years team will get the memo this years team forgot to read. It isn't about a player. It is about the system.

Oops, I forgot. Lowell fans aren't allowed to voice opinion or concern about any aspect of the program, because doing so means you've given up on the team, think they suck and believe the coach needs to be fired. Hear that, everyone? Being anything less than 110% optimistic about Lowell hockey is an attack on Lowell hockey and won't be tolerated.

Is this a hockey discussion board or North Korea?

Stop with the asinine hyperbole and learn to deal with opinions that don't mirror your own.

UMLFan
12-12-2014, 08:58 AM
We suck. Disaster. Nothing good will ever happen. We have no good recruits coming. We have no recruits coming. Anyone ever get tired of looking at what should happen and saying how bad we should be? This is a rebuilding year so we should really suck. We have no goalies who are any good. We look terrible on paper. I wonder if next years team will get the memo this years team forgot to read. It isn't about a player. It is about the system.
Are you saying that the system would fail if we brought in some bigger name recruits?

I don't understand this. No one is saying everything is a disaster. It actually is feasible to pay attention to the now and also keep an eye on the future.

There are SOME people that also like to see what's coming in for the future. If you don't care, then honestly, ignore this thread. As I've said, recruiting is the lifeblood of a program. It appears that Bazin basically wants the older players, and that's working, no question. But it's not like he hasn't gotten early commitments before. I (and some others) are noting that we really don't have much for the future right now. I also find it fun to see some kids commit to us, it's a different part of the program.

There are other schools (not at the BC/BU level) that have a system. They're also recruiting their style players. But they're getting commitments.

I just don't understand that sarcastic responses to something that others care about. Again, if you don't care ... then don't worry about this thread. That's why there's a separate thread.

leswp1
12-12-2014, 11:34 AM
Are you saying that the system would fail if we brought in some bigger name recruits?

I don't understand this. No one is saying everything is a disaster. It actually is feasible to pay attention to the now and also keep an eye on the future.

There are SOME people that also like to see what's coming in for the future. If you don't care, then honestly, ignore this thread. As I've said, recruiting is the lifeblood of a program. It appears that Bazin basically wants the older players, and that's working, no question. But it's not like he hasn't gotten early commitments before. I (and some others) are noting that we really don't have much for the future right now. I also find it fun to see some kids commit to us, it's a different part of the program.

There are other schools (not at the BC/BU level) that have a system. They're also recruiting their style players. But they're getting commitments.

I just don't understand that sarcastic responses to something that others care about. Again, if you don't care ... then don't worry about this thread. That's why there's a separate thread.

I am not saying we would be bad if we got big recruits. TO get them would show we are getting respect, which would be nice. BC and BU have decades of tradition. No matter how incredible this team is, it will take some time for parents/players to buy in. Look at the reaction of the other fan bases. We are the longest flash the pan ever. The parents who are shopping their kids around to find where they should play grew up knowing about the 'big' teams. Consistency and tincture of time is really the only thing that will solve that IMHO..

I enjoy reading who is coming and what other people think of their talent, etc. It just seems that for all the years I have been watching it is unusual for the predictions about what a team will be like to be accurate. People say how bad it will be and then they manage to do OK for themselves. Or they are supposed to be good and YICK!. A few yrs ago they were stacked and everyone expected great things. They were awful.

I am not saying everything is perfect. After 30 yrs of watching what they look like on paper is not what they look like on ice a great deal of the time. The team has had some really talented players over the yrs who were not good team players. Some of the best teams (ours and other teams) I ever watched didn't have any amazing players but a lot of selfless players with less talent who bought in to the team ethos. Talent is good but chemistry will beat talent alone. I guess I am in a tiny minority of one in the 'wait and see rather than predict' school of thought. I will, chastened, keep my wait and see attitude to myself.

Patman
12-12-2014, 07:29 PM
I would hate to think that better talented players want to come to lowell but they're being bypassed for the sake of a certain system... it just seems limiting.

On the other hand, it seem to take a lot for players to consider things outside of the established schools. I mean, Maine has been on, more or less, a decade long flameout and yet they bring people in.

boblav1
12-12-2014, 11:48 PM
Recruit Nick Master was named the first star tonight with a hat trick as Tri City defeated Youngstown.
http://ushlstats.stats.pointstreak.com/boxscore.html?gameid=2469808

Guillaume Leclerc is on the France entry roster for the IIHF Ice Hockey U20 World Championship DIV I GROUP B tournament. The tournament starts this weekend in Hungry. http://www.iihf.com/competition/453/statistics.html

Patronick
12-13-2014, 12:28 AM
I would hate to think that better talented players want to come to lowell but they're being bypassed for the sake of a certain system... it just seems limiting.

On the other hand, it seem to take a lot for players to consider things outside of the established schools. I mean, Maine has been on, more or less, a decade long flameout and yet they bring people in.

During the Maine game the announcers were quoting either Cavanaugh or Donato, I don't remember which one and I just deleted the game from the DVR. Anyway, they said that Lowell is like a team of clones. All roughly the same size kids who skate hard, fight for pucks, play a physical game and fully buy into the system.

Of course there are exceptions, but Lowell is recruiting to fit a mold. I don't think they'd turn down a blue chip recruit because he doesn't fit the ideal perfectly, but who knows.

On you second point, I agree. It's mindboggling that Amherst can bring in any talent, considering their track record and a coach that's doomed for the unemployment line within the next two years. Northeastern has a similar story, except they have a lot more to offer a recruit - Bean Pot, quality education, playing in Boston, etc., although their coach is equally worthless.

UMLFan
12-13-2014, 09:57 AM
During the Maine game the announcers were quoting either Cavanaugh or Donato, I don't remember which one and I just deleted the game from the DVR. Anyway, they said that Lowell is like a team of clones. All roughly the same size kids who skate hard, fight for pucks, play a physical game and fully buy into the system.

Of course there are exceptions, but Lowell is recruiting to fit a mold. I don't think they'd turn down a blue chip recruit because he doesn't fit the ideal perfectly, but who knows.

On you second point, I agree. It's mindboggling that Amherst can bring in any talent, considering their track record and a coach that's doomed for the unemployment line within the next two years. Northeastern has a similar story, except they have a lot more to offer a recruit - Bean Pot, quality education, playing in Boston, etc., although their coach is equally worthless.
Just as an example, UMass has a commit from Kurt Keats, one of the top scorers in the BCHL and called up to Team Canada West.

riverchief1
12-13-2014, 12:28 PM
Just as an example, UMass has a commit from Kurt Keats, one of the top scorers in the BCHL and called up to Team Canada West.

Maybe the recruit was confused about which UMass he committed to? Could happen.:D

bottomdweller
12-13-2014, 11:39 PM
Lowell had only two official visits, and both were already committed to coming here prior to the visit. I'm not well versed in the recruiting flow, so I'm not sure if official visits happen before signing, after signing, doesn't matter, etc. Both players were up for the Penn State weekend, so good thing they were already planning on coming here.

boblav1
12-14-2014, 12:21 AM
From the College Hockey Source. BCHL Hockey Report : Top Uncommitted Prospects and League Report. (http://carldelucia.com/2014/12/12/bchl-hockey-report-top-uncommitted-prospects-and-league-report/)

boblav1
12-14-2014, 12:58 PM
I am hearing rumblings that a '97 goaltender is choosing between RIT, Merrimack and UMass Lowell. Will update when I get more information.
Any update?

boblav1
12-14-2014, 01:00 PM
Maybe the recruit was confused about which UMass he committed to? Could happen.:D
Amherst also picked up a goaltender for next season.


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Okotoks Oilers G Nic Renyard has committed to @UMassHockey for 2015. Leads the AJHL in Wins (19), 2nd in Save % (.943) and GAA (1.86)

UMLFan
12-14-2014, 01:11 PM
Lowell had only two official visits, and both were already committed to coming here prior to the visit. I'm not well versed in the recruiting flow, so I'm not sure if official visits happen before signing, after signing, doesn't matter, etc. Both players were up for the Penn State weekend, so good thing they were already planning on coming here.
You can make an official visit anytime you want, during your final season prior to playing college.

riverchief1
12-14-2014, 01:12 PM
Amherst also picked up a goaltender for next season.

Gets on campus and wonders where the canals, mills, and championship banners are and is confused as all he sees are cows and rioting students, lighting things on fire and tipping cars over.

Patman
12-14-2014, 03:54 PM
Gets on campus and wonders where the canals, mills, and championship banners are and is confused as all he sees are cows and rioting students, lighting things on fire and tipping cars over.

COW RIOT!!!

:p :) :D