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davyd83
06-16-2013, 11:49 PM
Davyd you seem to be on top of things in Marquette. I am glad you know so much. You know how to use google and give me answers.

Used imdb for that one. See Mystery, Alaska. I actually had Corbie as the front runner, Hartzell and Thomas as strong candidates and Fogarty as the wild card.

seaturtle
06-17-2013, 12:00 AM
Word is that Fogarty withdrew from consideration late last week.

Suze
06-17-2013, 01:39 AM
Word is that Fogarty withdrew from consideration late last week.

That doesn't bother me in the least.

XYZ
06-17-2013, 10:38 AM
That doesn't bother me in the least.

It's not like he could have made things any worse...

Alaska Hockey
06-17-2013, 05:45 PM
It's not like he could have made things any worse... Depends if he passed muster with the Ashley Reed.

Suze
06-17-2013, 05:46 PM
It's not like he could have made things any worse...

HA! That's really true, but there were better applicants to choose from if you ask me, and other UAA fans.

Greenbayguy
06-17-2013, 08:39 PM
Salary range appears to be an issue for the top two candidates from the mainland rumor mill. What are the media payouts and other incentives to the base. I've heard the base offer is between $130-140,000. Fairly low for DI.

davyd83
06-17-2013, 08:59 PM
HA! That's really true, but there were better applicants to choose from if you ask me, and other UAA fans.
Who do you feel were the best applicants?

uaafanblog
06-17-2013, 11:21 PM
Salary range appears to be an issue for the top two candidates from the mainland rumor mill. What are the media payouts and other incentives to the base. I've heard the base offer is between $130-140,000. Fairly low for DI.

Maybe one day the powers at UAA will come to understand that at this level you get what you pay for ... But it is not this day.

Unfortunate but very true. This coaching change was a viable opportunity to make a statement and find a "name" that would bring instant credibility and with that the Tier 1 recruits who are the difference makers in Division 1 hockey. The State of Alaska is full on no BS flush with money and it would have been no sweat off anyone's balls to spend 300K for a coach.

But noooooooooo ...

But this is what you get when you put conservative former generals turned conservative ineffectual bureaucrats in charge of stuff. It is the height of anti-creative insipidly boring thinking.

It is the Pat Gambles of this world which have killed everything good and will one day push it into an abyss of darkness and misery never before experienced by humankind.

Jimjamesak
06-17-2013, 11:49 PM
Unfortunate but very true. This coaching change was a viable opportunity to make a statement and find a "name" that would bring instant credibility and with that the Tier 1 recruits who are the difference makers in Division 1 hockey. The State of Alaska is full on no BS flush with money and it would have been no sweat off anyone's balls to spend 300K for a coach.
There's a vast difference between the State having that money and UAA having that money. Just because you keep pointing out that the State has a vast reserve of money (and by the way, try being that politician that proposes to spend that money, go ahead) doesn't mean it's magically going to end up at UAA.

Seawolf Fan
06-18-2013, 12:38 AM
Politics! We've got BILLIONs to give no strings attached to the oil companies. We can build engineering facilities and programs at UA_ and UAA because the oil companies want the engineers they produce.
The oil companies, their subsidiaries and companies that profit from doing business with them are the ones who make the bulk of the contributions to the politicians who control the purse strings of all those state BILLIONs.
Where do you suppose ice rinks rank in the politicians big scheme of getting re-elected?
Exactly, that's why we've got the Carlson and Sully and the oil companies have the BILLIONs no strings attached.
I forgot the practice ice at Wells Fargo.

XYZ
06-18-2013, 01:11 AM
HA! That's really true, but there were better applicants to choose from if you ask me, and other UAA fans.

Certainly possible. I actually don't know enough about the Division I assistants and Hartzell to have an opinion of them, so my comments aren't Fogarty-specific. That said, whenever openings arise such as here or the previous one at Tech, it seems many fans (and administrations, quite frankly) automatically discount Division III guys for reasons that are based in nothing. There are some out there that I have zero doubt would succeed in Division I. A few in particular would excel tremendously and I would hire them in an instant with little fear of failure. As a Wisconsin (sort of) guy, there are a few out there that if hired, I'd confidently bet my life on the fact they could bring more success to Madison than Eaves has.

Only point really is that just because a guy is from Division III doesn't mean he shouldn't be taken seriously. There are some (maybe not a lot, but some) guys that could coach circles around an abundance of DI guys. The next school that figures that out and picks the right one...could very well end up with the next Gwoz.

Suze
06-18-2013, 02:04 AM
Certainly possible. I actually don't know enough about the Division I assistants and Hartzell to have an opinion of them, so my comments aren't Fogarty-specific. That said, whenever openings arise such as here or the previous one at Tech, it seems many fans (and administrations, quite frankly) automatically discount Division III guys for reasons that are based in nothing. There are some out there that I have zero doubt would succeed in Division I. A few in particular would excel tremendously and I would hire them in an instant with little fear of failure. As a Wisconsin (sort of) guy, there are a few out there that if hired, I'd confidently bet my life on the fact they could bring more success to Madison than Eaves has.

Only point really is that just because a guy is from Division III doesn't mean he shouldn't be taken seriously. There are some (maybe not a lot, but some) guys that could coach circles around an abundance of DI guys. The next school that figures that out and picks the right one...could very well end up with the next Gwoz.

That may all be true, but UAA got really, REALLY burned the last time they hired a DIII coach. They may be a bit gun shy this time around because of that.

Alaska Hockey
06-18-2013, 04:02 AM
Politics! We've got BILLIONs to give no strings attached to the oil companies. We can build engineering facilities and programs at UA_ and UAA because the oil companies want the engineers they produce.
The oil companies, their subsidiaries and companies that profit from doing business with them are the ones who make the bulk of the contributions to the politicians who control the purse strings of all those state BILLIONs.
Where do you suppose ice rinks rank in the politicians big scheme of getting re-elected?
Exactly, that's why we've got the Carlson and Sully and the oil companies have the BILLIONs no strings attached.
I forgot the practice ice at Wells Fargo.
You forgot the Patty Center ice in Downtown College, Alaska. the Dumpers are Playing Mercyhurst Oct. 25rh & 26th in Downtown Collage,Alaska if your in _airbanks drive over.

purpleinnebraska
06-18-2013, 08:45 AM
Maybe one day the powers at UAA will come to understand that at this level you get what you pay for ... But it is not this day.

Unfortunate but very true. This coaching change was a viable opportunity to make a statement and find a "name" that would bring instant credibility and with that the Tier 1 recruits who are the difference makers in Division 1 hockey. The State of Alaska is full on no BS flush with money and it would have been no sweat off anyone's balls to spend 300K for a coach.

But noooooooooo ...

But this is what you get when you put conservative former generals turned conservative ineffectual bureaucrats in charge of stuff. It is the height of anti-creative insipidly boring thinking.

It is the Pat Gambles of this world which have killed everything good and will one day push it into an abyss of darkness and misery never before experienced by humankind.

If you want the coach to be well-paid, then get the booster group to supplement the salary. 98% of the taxpayers in any state don't give a darn about a college hockey program. Why stick them with the bill. Put your money where your mouth is.

altazo
06-18-2013, 09:18 AM
Word is that Fogarty withdrew from consideration late last week.

He's got a better gig at Adrian. Probably makes similar money too...

NorthernLite
06-18-2013, 11:17 AM
He's got a better gig at Adrian. Probably makes similar money too...

I know Adrian supporters are very happy with his decision.
Bulldog fans have had more to celebrate in six years than UAA nation have had in twenty.

As an Adrian supporter I was worried we were going to lose him.
The challenges of the UAA position had many similarities to those that Fogarty took on when he started the Adrian program.
The one big exception being... the huge and passionate fan base.

I sincerely hope UAA fans get the coach they want, and that the administration supports him, and enables him to deliver a winning program.

Good luck Seawolves !!

Go Bulldogs !!!!

uaafanblog
06-18-2013, 11:49 AM
If you want the coach to be well-paid, then get the booster group to supplement the salary. 98% of the taxpayers in any state don't give a darn about a college hockey program. Why stick them with the bill. Put your money where your mouth is.

What you fail to grasp is that EXACTLY ZERO of the money the state has came out of ANY citizens pocket. There are no taxpayers up there.

purpleinnebraska
06-18-2013, 12:06 PM
What you fail to grasp is that EXACTLY ZERO of the money the state has came out of ANY citizens pocket. There are no taxpayers up there.

Every tax dollar comes out of the citizens' pockets, whether you have a state income tax or don't. The corporations are taxpayers. Money they pay in taxes is money they don't give to their employees. "Government money" doesn't come from the government - it comes from the people, either directly or indirectly. Now that we've covered Politics 101, the point remains, When did it become the job of government to give you a highly paid coach? Is that in the Alaska State Constitution? If you want your coach to be paid a lot of money, do what countless booster groups around the country do, and get out your own wallet and make it happen.

davyd83
06-18-2013, 01:44 PM
Several sources have Tweeted that UAA will name a coach as early as today. Good luck!