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Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 01:10 PM
As I discussed in the Top 25 Greatest Teams of the NCAA Era thread, I have put together a tournament for the Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA Era (according to my formula). I figured a new thread would probably work best.

Here is the bracket...

http://www.collegehockeyweekly.com/Top-100-Tournament-2013.html

I haven't really decided yet how many games I'll run through the simulator at a time (or when I'll start), but I figured I might as well start a thread and get the discussion going.

Also, if there are odd pairings (for example, the bracket is set up to pair the #9 and #15 teams in the Round of 32), let me know and I'll correct it. Also, if there are any duplicate teams, let me know.

Hopefully this can be a fun thread, dedicated to the great teams that have played college hockey in the past. If it turns into a flame fest, I'll probably just quit doing the tournament.

Anyway...Enjoy!

KnowItAll
02-21-2013, 01:20 PM
As I discussed in the Top 25 Greatest Teams of the NCAA Era thread, I have put together a tournament for the Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA Era (according to my formula). I figured a new thread would probably work best.

Here is the bracket...

http://www.collegehockeyweekly.com/Top-100-Tournament-2013.html

I haven't really decided yet how many games I'll run through the simulator at a time (or when I'll start), but I figured I might as well start a thread and get the discussion going.

Also, if there are odd pairings (for example, the bracket is set up to pair the #9 and #15 teams in the Round of 32), let me know and I'll correct it. Also, if there are any duplicate teams, let me know.

Hopefully this can be a fun thread, dedicated to the great teams that have played college hockey in the past. If it turns into a flame fest, I'll probably just quit doing the tournament.

Anyway...Enjoy!


cool, this should be fun
the 94-95 Maine team is not set up to play the 94-95 BU team after a triple overtime loss to Michigan this time.

Priceless
02-21-2013, 01:35 PM
These threads are always fun. You should wait and do this in the dog days of summer.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 01:40 PM
These threads are always fun. You should wait and do this in the dog days of summer.

I've thought about that, but I honestly don't know how much free time I'm going to have then. Dog Days of Summer = middle of Summer Internship/Externship.

hockeyplayer1015
02-21-2013, 01:44 PM
Kind of surprised to not see the 87-88 SLU team listed. Do you have the rankings past 100, if so, how close were they?

Looking forward to this as well.

aparch
02-21-2013, 01:47 PM
NMU's best team out of 100 is the first CCHA title winners, not the repeat team from 81-82 or the WCHA 91 NC team?

Interesting choice.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 01:55 PM
Kind of surprised to not see the 87-88 SLU team listed. Do you have the rankings past 100, if so, how close were they?

Looking forward to this as well.

The '87-'88 SLU squad ranked #153 All-Time. They totaled 118.6044 points, about 20 points behind the #100 squad ('02-'03 UNH). To put it into perspective, the #152 team is the '88-'89 LSSU squad, and the #154 team is the '09-'10 BC squad.


NMU's best team out of 100 is the first CCHA title winners, not the repeat team from 81-82 or the WCHA 91 NC team?

Interesting choice.

'90-'91 NMU is #5. I had to use "No. Michigan" for NMU. I did not rank the '81-'82 NMU squad. They were 15-21-0, and missed the NCAA Tournament. Perhaps it was a different squad that you were thinking of?

aparch
02-21-2013, 02:19 PM
Ah, missed them scrolling through on my smartphone.

And I mistyped. Meant 80-81. 79-80 was the only NMU team I saw.

Driftryder
02-21-2013, 02:20 PM
Good stuff FS23

Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 02:25 PM
Ah, missed them scrolling through on my smartphone.

And I mistyped. Meant 80-81. 79-80 was the only NMU team I saw.

No worries. It's a gigantic page, so I can see where scrolling on a smartphone would present challenges.

As for the '80-'81 squad, they finished #242 (89.3969 Points). #241 was '55-'56 SLU, and #243 was '07-'08 BC.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 03:21 PM
The #64-#65 matchup ('90-91 Maine vs. '81-82 North Dakota) will start soon...

#64 – 1990-1991 Maine Black Bears vs. #65 – 1981-1982 North Dakota Fighting Sioux
February 21, 2013
Boston Garden

Maine Goalie: Garth Snow
North Dakota Goalie: Darren Jensen

Maine with a 50.18% chance of winning.
North Dakota with a 49.82% chance of winning.

EDIT: Puck to drop at 4:05 (Eastern)

I'll do all the updates within this post to make it easier to track for those interested.

EDIT: Puck has been dropped, and we're underway from the Boston Garden here. North Dakota is in Green, Maine in White.

1st Period:
- Garth Snow with a huge save on Phil Sykes. Sykes was in with Cary Eades on a 2x1. Eades made a nice dish over to Sykes who was going for the top corner, but Snow proved too much. 0-0 early on
- Patrice Tardif taken down by Sioux D-man James Patrick, and Maine will head to the Powerplay. 16:39 left to play in the 1st.
- Scott Pellerin hits the post!! Maine nearly take the lead...still on the powerplay. 15:55 left to play (1:16 left on the powerplay).
- And Jean-Yves Roy scores!! North Dakota fails to clear the zone as the Black Bear powerplay was winding down. Jim Montgomery makes a great play, and finds a streak Roy who goes 5-hole on Jensen. 1-0 Maine with 14:50 left in the 1st.
- Brian Downey nearly makes it 2-0 for Maine, but Jensen comes up with an enormous glove save. Just under 13:00 left in the 1st.
- Things getting a little chippy here, and we have matching minors: Roughing on Cary Eades (UND) and Roughing on Stephen Tepper (Maine). We'll skate 4x4 for 2:00. 11:49 left in the 1st.
- And North Dakota will go on the Powerplay, as Keith Carney crosschecks Troy Murray. UND will have 1:26 of a 4x3, and then :34 of a 5x4.
- Phil Sykes scores!! With a ton of ice, North Dakota moves the puck well, and Sykes takes a pass from Murray, then roofs it over Snow to tie the game at 1. 10:55 left in the 1st.
- North Dakota buzzing right now. Snow standing strong to keep this a 1-1 game. 9:00 left in the 1st.
- Now North Dakota rips one off the pipe. Craig Ludwig launches a bomb from the blue line, and a screened Snow had no chance, but it rings off the crossbar. Still 1-1 with under 7:00 left in the 1st.
- Firewagon hockey right now. Moments after Ludwig's post, Jean-Yves Roy takes a puck behind the net, and nearly scores on a wraparound opportunity. Montgomery then grabs the rebound and shoots wide. 1-1 with 5:00 left in the 1st.
- Cary Eades scores!! North Dakota comes in on a 3x2 and Rick Zombo threads a beauty to Eades who scores low to the blocker. 2-1 North Dakota. 4:31 left in the 1st.
- North Dakota nearly grabs a 3-1 lead, but Snow is up to the task. Then, Ludwig takes a roughing penalty, so Maine will have a powerplay. 3:05 left in the 1st
- Maine struggling to keep the puck in the zone...only about 20 seconds left on the powerplay
- North Dakota kills the powerplay, and we have less than a minute left in the 1st.
- That's the end of the 1st. North Dakota leads 2-1 thanks to goals by Sykes and Eades. Maine's goal scored on the powerplay by Roy.

2nd Period:
- Puck drops and we're back at it in Boston...
- Slow start to the 2nd by both squads...not much going on. Shots on Goal in the First: Maine - 9, North Dakota - 12
- Tony Link with a big hit on Sykes in the neutral zone. That has the Maine bench up and cheering. 16:00 left in the 2nd, still 2-1 Sioux.
- Maine will get a powerplay, as Jim Archibald gets called for roughing. 12:24 left in the 2nd
- Once again, Maine with nothing to show for it on the man advantage. 10:00 left in the 2nd
- Maine will go back on the man advantage. Cary Eades gets called for Goaltender Interference. 8:42 left in the 2nd.
- Scott Pellerin Scores!! Beautiful passing on the powerplay, as Downey puts it across to Carney who finds a streaking Pellerin backdoor for an easy tap in goal. 2-2. 7:41 left in the 2nd.
- What a save by Jensen! An innocent shot from the point by Downey deflects off Ludwig and appears to have eyes for the open corner. Going back across his body, Jensen flashes the glove to keep this a 2-2 game. 5:00 left in 2nd.
- Maine on the attack right now. Pellerin with two great chances, but they both find the glove of Jensen. 3:55 left in the 2nd.
- Sykes nearly puts North Dakota up 3-2. Murray made a great pass to Sykes in the slot, who puts a one-timer just side. 1:33 left in the 2nd.
- That's the end of the 2nd period. Pellerin's powerplay goal ties the game at 2 heading into the third.
- Shots on Goal in the 2nd: Maine - 9, North Dakota - 6

3rd Period:
- Puck has dropped for the third...game all tied at 2
- Maine flying to start the third, but their shots are not finding the net.
- Montgomery stoned on a breakaway!! Ludwig had pinched in as the Sioux were looking to go ahead, and he gets caught. Roy springs Montgomery on the breakaway, but Jensen comes up with a huge save. 15:00 left in the 3rd.
- Now North Dakota is carrying play, but we're still tied a 2. 13:00 left in the 3rd.
- North Dakota will head to the powerplay. The Sioux had a 2x1 developing when a backchecking Jim Montgomery hauls down Jim Archibald. 10:50 left in the 3rd. Tied 2-2
- North Dakota manages nothing with the man advantage, not even registering a shot. 8:50 left in the 3rd. Tied 2-2
- Maine with a nice rush, but Roy's shot goes high from the slot. 7:00 left in the 3rd.
- Sykes Scores!! David Tippett lets a slapshot go from the blue line, and Snow is unable to handle the rebound. Sykes is sitting on the doorstep and jams it home. North Dakota leads 3-2 with 5:59 left.
- Maine comes back strong and draws a penalty as James Patrick gets called for Roughing. Black Bear powerplay coming up with 4:41 left in the 3rd
- Roy hits the Post!! Off the draw, Downey fires one in that deflects right to Roy who rings one off the pipe. We're under 4:00 left in the 3rd.
- And North Dakota kills off the penalty. 2:41 left in the 3rd
- Maine draws another penalty, this time Mike Stone hauls down Randy Olson trying to stop an odd man rush, and Maine will go back on the Powerplay with 1:47 left in the third.
- Coach Walsh takes his timeout. 3-2 North Dakota
- Snow pulled, and Maine has an empty net and a 6x4 advantage.
- Maine with a lot of possession, but unable to get anything on Jensen as of yet...clock is ticking down, and we're under 1:00 left to play
- Dusty Carroll Scores!! The shorthanded, empty netter gives North Dakota a 4-2 advantage with just 27 seconds left to play. It would take a miracle for Maine to win this one now.
- And that's the game. North Dakota wins 4-2, and the 1981-1982 National Champion Sioux squad will advance to take on the #1 seeded 1992-1993 Maine Black Bears.
- Final Shots on Goal: Maine - 31, North Dakota - 26

gopher wes
02-21-2013, 04:03 PM
Cool stuff, FS23. Thanks for sharing!

FreshFish
02-21-2013, 05:50 PM
As I discussed in the Top 25 Greatest Teams of the NCAA Era thread, I have put together a tournament for the Top 100 Greatest Teams of the NCAA Era (according to my formula).

um, the '84-'85 Rensselaer team was so dominant that your formula underweighted their strength of schedule as a result (or at least that's how your explanation seemed to read...) and so they are seeded too low. ;) Nothing to do about that now though. They are locked into their spot. So it goes.

Thanks for doing all this work. It should be a fun tournament. :)



PS just out of curiosity, where do you find all this computational power? Whenever I have to run Monte Carlo simulations for work, I pretty much hit "start" and then go off for coffee....I'm limited to a notebook and we don't run them very often....though I suspect this is a Microsoft program memory limitation and not a computer / chip limitation.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 06:32 PM
um, the '84-'85 Rensselaer team was so dominant that your formula underweighted their strength of schedule as a result (or at least that's how your explanation seemed to read...) and so they are seeded too low. ;) Nothing to do about that now though. They are locked into their spot. So it goes.

Thanks for doing all this work. It should be a fun tournament. :)



PS just out of curiosity, where do you find all this computational power? Whenever I have to run Monte Carlo simulations for work, I pretty much hit "start" and then go off for coffee....I'm limited to a notebook and we don't run them very often....though I suspect this is a Microsoft program memory limitation and not a computer / chip limitation.

The '84-'85 RPI squad was certainly one of the greats. You are correct in that their SOS wasn't as strong as some of the others in the top 10. We'll see how they do in this tournament. I would imagine they should put anyone they play to the test.

As for your computational power question, I'm not quite sure how to respond. It takes time for me to put all the data into the program and then to get the "box score" back. I don't have any sort of super-computer to help me :)

UncleRay
02-21-2013, 06:38 PM
#64 1990-1991 Maine Black Bears vs. #65 1981-1982 North Dakota Fighting Sioux

- And that's the game. North Dakota wins 4-2, and the 1981-1982 National Champion Sioux squad will advance to take on the #1 seeded 1992-1993 Maine Black Bears.
- Final Shots on Goal: Maine - 31, North Dakota - 26First game, and the fix is in already!!! Ro!!ported!!!!!

Fighting Sioux 23
02-21-2013, 06:42 PM
First game, and the fix is in already!!! Ro!!ported!!!!!

Just wait until their next game! Mua ha ha :p:D:D

I might do the next game (#58 - 2000-2001 MSU vs. #71 - 1988-1989 Minnesota) tonight or tomorrow.

HumRsky
02-21-2013, 09:47 PM
At least when St. Cloud State loses to Michigan in the first round of this tournament it won't be a total choke job. My feelings toward the 2000-2001 Huskies are very similar to my feelings toward the 1998 Vikings.

Siouxfaninseattle
02-22-2013, 12:41 AM
I don't know about this simulator - penalties to Eades, Archibald, Ludwig and Patrick? Those guys were choirboys!:D

brassbonanza
02-22-2013, 01:00 AM
- and that's the game. North dakota wins 4-2

timmay!

Fighting Sioux 23
02-22-2013, 10:22 AM
Today's game features the 2000-2001 Michigan State Spartans (#58) taking on the 1988-1989 Minnesota Golden Gophers (#71). The Spartans, led by Hobey Baker Winner Ryan Miller, went 33-5-4 in their season, and finished with a loss in the National Semifinals to North Dakota. The Gophers, led by Hobey Baker Winner Robb Stauber, went 34-11-3 in their season, and finished with a loss in the National Championship to Harvard. This East Regional First Round matchup will be played at historic Lake Placid, NY on the 1980 Rink - Herb Brooks Arena. The crowd is rowdy and starting to filter in, as the puck will drop at 11:05am Eastern Time.

#58 - 2000-2001 Michigan State Spartans vs. #71 - 1988-1989 Minnesota Golden Gophers

Starting Goalies:
Michigan State - Ryan Miller
Minnesota - Robb Stauber