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mav0035
02-21-2013, 09:22 AM
The question was asked, "Should college continue outdoor game?" Absolutely yes! Should college hockey play an outdoor game on a Sunday at a neutral site ie Notre Dame/Miami, Minnesota/Wisconsin. heck no!

Maybe it worked out commercially and the networks made their money but it no way should they have played those games at a neutral site. Look at the games that have worked out commercially and also packed in the fans. Michigan vs Wisconsin, the Michigan Michigan St games. Ridiculous crowds and great atmosphere.

Future Outdoor Games that could do well in both categories

UND @ Minnesota
Wisconsin @ Minnesota
Minnesota @ Wisconsin
Michigan @ Notre Dame
Michigan @ Penn State
Michigan @ Michigan St. This should be an annual game.

these games will bring in big money from crowds, tv, advertisements etc.

The Hockey City classic at soldier field may have been a success commercially for the networks, advertisements etc but for the players the atmosphere matters. Yeah I am sure it was amazing playing an outdoor game at soldier field but it would've been that much better in front of 80,000+ fans at Camp Randall for the players and fans or 80,000+ at Notre Dame Stadium with Michigan in town not Miami of Ohio.

Just my thoughts on if college hockey should continue outdoor games. They should but at venues that will draw the attendance and still please the investors.

bluevox
02-21-2013, 11:07 AM
The Hockey City classic at soldier field may have been a success commercially for the networks, advertisements etc but for the players the atmosphere matters. Yeah I am sure it was amazing playing an outdoor game at soldier field but it would've been that much better in front of 80,000+ fans at Camp Randall for the players and fans or 80,000+ at Notre Dame Stadium with Michigan in town not Miami of Ohio.

When Michigan played Wisconsin at Camp Randell, the atendance was around 55,000. For Minnesota, it probably would have been more. Just sayin'.

ericredaxe
02-21-2013, 11:17 AM
Meh... I went to the first Fenway games. The best part was the novelty. Personally I would hope BU does not do an outdoor game more than once every 4 years or so.

Spartanforlife4
02-21-2013, 12:01 PM
I don't want MSU to do another one, especially with the current state of the program. Frankly I don't care if they ever have another outdoor game. To me, nothing has, nor do I think anything will, ever top the Cold War.

SanTropez
02-21-2013, 12:07 PM
As long as the Gophers don't play in another one I don't care.

fellowes
02-21-2013, 12:08 PM
Future Outdoor Games that could do well in both categories

UND @ Minnesota
Wisconsin @ Minnesota
Minnesota @ Wisconsin
Michigan @ Notre Dame
Michigan @ Penn State
Michigan @ Michigan St. This should be an annual game.

these games will bring in big money from crowds, tv, advertisements etc.


So basically, if your program is not in or closely associated with the Big 10, mav0035 doesn't want you to have an outdoor game. Dang.

MUhawks628
02-21-2013, 12:27 PM
So basically, if your program is not in or closely associated with the Big 10, mav0035 doesn't want you to have an outdoor game. Dang.

Silence. When mav0035 speaks, we listen.

SteveP
02-21-2013, 12:28 PM
So basically, if your program is not in or closely associated with the Big 10, mav0035 doesn't want you to have an outdoor game. Dang.

I'd pay for a ticket to see DU and CC at Mile High or CC and Air Force at Falcon Stadium.

FWIW, Penn State acting AD Dave Joyner said at the team banquet last Saturday that there will be an outdoor game at Beaver Stadium sometime in the future. However, Bettman has said there's no plan for the NHL to hold the Winter Classic there. :(

mnstate0fhockey
02-21-2013, 01:17 PM
As long as the Gophers don't play in another one I don't care.

When Minnesota gets it's Winter Classic, I'd be ok with the Gophers playing an outdoor game in conjunction with it. You know the ice would be much better than it was at Soldier Field.

mav0035
02-21-2013, 01:59 PM
I didnt mean for it to be just Big Ten teams or close ties to Big Ten. I was just rattling off a few games that could do well in both aspects.

BC vs BU would obviously be a great match-up. What I was trying to say in my first post is I dont think Outdoor games should go away. I didnt like the fact it was at a neutral site and on a Sunday. If it was on a Saturday and at a home teams football field the attendance would have made the experience much better.

Either way there should be one game a year outdoors. Great for the game and thats where we will started to skate, outdoors!!!!

Maybe throw in a Anchorage/Fairbanks match up on the Kenai River!

Thecalkid
02-21-2013, 02:07 PM
Maybe throw in a Anchorage/Fairbanks match up on the Kenai River![/QUOTE]

At the mouth of it to, that way the Indians can come!

brassbonanza
02-21-2013, 02:10 PM
Maybe throw in a Anchorage/Fairbanks match up on the Kenai River!

At the mouth of it to, that way the Indians can come![/QUOTE]

No, make them go away, or at least relegated to very, very infrequently. The novelty is gone, it's no longer special, the matchups are getting dull, the weather at many of these places is becoming unpredictable and hurting the integrity of the game played.

Tiggsy
02-21-2013, 02:40 PM
When Minnesota gets it's Winter Classic, I'd be ok with the Gophers playing an outdoor game in conjunction with it. You know the ice would be much better than it was at Soldier Field.

Maybe but why would that matter since it didn't affect the outcome of the game? :D :p

mnstate0fhockey
02-21-2013, 02:45 PM
Maybe but why would that matter since it didn't affect the outcome of the game? :D :p

:p;)

I don't like to use the quality of ice as an excuse because both teams had to play on the same ice and the Gophers certainly could have adapted better. But I think if you asked all four teams that played (winners and losers), they would say they would have liked a better quality ice surface. If for nothing else than less chance of a quirky injury occurring.

The NHL is anal about the ice for the Winter Classics. I think piggy backing off a Classic in Minnesota would be the way to go if we host a game in Minnesota.

Jasma
02-21-2013, 02:51 PM
The question was asked, "Should college continue outdoor game?" Absolutely yes! Should college hockey play an outdoor game on a Sunday at a neutral site ie Notre Dame/Miami, Minnesota/Wisconsin. heck no!

Maybe it worked out commercially and the networks made their money but it no way should they have played those games at a neutral site. Look at the games that have worked out commercially and also packed in the fans. Michigan vs Wisconsin, the Michigan Michigan St games. Ridiculous crowds and great atmosphere.

Future Outdoor Games that could do well in both categories

UND @ Minnesota
Wisconsin @ Minnesota
Minnesota @ Wisconsin
Michigan @ Notre Dame
Michigan @ Penn State
Michigan @ Michigan St. This should be an annual game.

these games will bring in big money from crowds, tv, advertisements etc.

The Hockey City classic at soldier field may have been a success commercially for the networks, advertisements etc but for the players the atmosphere matters. Yeah I am sure it was amazing playing an outdoor game at soldier field but it would've been that much better in front of 80,000+ fans at Camp Randall for the players and fans or 80,000+ at Notre Dame Stadium with Michigan in town not Miami of Ohio.

Just my thoughts on if college hockey should continue outdoor games. They should but at venues that will draw the attendance and still please the investors.

I like the idea of one or two outdoor games a year rotating through the regions. I like the suggestions of CC/Denver and CC/AF, almost anybody at Notre Dame or Penn State, and games at places like Yankee Stadium, Fenway and Soldier Field. Games at Ford Field or the Carrier Dome might also be very good for the sport. These are big venues with a roof.

Madison Square Garden has done great with Cornell vs BU and Michigan. I think outdoor games and games in unusual places now and then could do a lot to help the sport grow. I still think that the best thing for the image and reputation of the sport would be to have a Frozen Four in NYC. MSG doesn't seem to want it, so How about the Barclay Center in Brooklyn? The media attention that could be gained by having the Frozen Four on that big stage would be huge.

brassbonanza
02-21-2013, 03:03 PM
How about the Barclay Center in Brooklyn? The media attention that could be gained by having the Frozen Four on that big stage would be huge.

Barclays would be a disaster, it's not built for hockey, and when the Isles move in, it'll have a hockey capacity of something under 15K. The only other non-MSG option would be Prudential in Newark, but public transit to there, while it exists, isn't the best, and it's Newark, so no. For NYC the NCAA will want MSG or nothing, I wouldn't hold my breath to see it there anytime soon.