January 14th Poll Speculations

[OSU2010]

Ill say it for the Uticas followers,Utica should be ranked over Oswego, and I would have to agree

they probably would have been had they not lost to Cortland

[PSUChamps2001]

they probably would have been had they not lost to Cortland

Bingo. Utica now has 2 common opponent loses with 6 more games coming up including 3 with Hobart. Oswego has 4 remaining. At Buff State wont be a push over and a win over Cortland will be HUGE. The good news is Elmira and Cortland wont be ranked come NCAA time so Utica should (baring a collapse) win that but Oswego should win common opponents. While an objective human poll may look at the Cortland loss and drop them, NCAA ranking wise wont have a huge impact (just yet).

[joecct]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

Want to start speculating on who will be ranked in each region?

SUNYAC: Oswego, Plattsburgh
ECAC-E: Norwich, Babson, (UMB????)
NESCAC: Bowdoin, Williams, Amherst
ECAC-W: Hobart, Utica, Manhattaville
MASCAC: Plymouth St.
ECAC-NE: Nichols???

NCHA: St. Norbert, Eau Claire, Superior
MCHA: Adrian, MSOE
MIAC: St. Thomas (Academy)

There has to be more, but....

[bakdraft21]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

Bingo. Utica now has 2 common opponent loses with 6 more games coming up including 3 with Hobart. Oswego has 4 remaining. At Buff State wont be a push over and a win over Cortland will be HUGE. The good news is Elmira and Cortland wont be ranked come NCAA time so Utica should (baring a collapse) win that but Oswego should win common opponents. While an objective human poll may look at the Cortland loss and drop them, NCAA ranking wise wont have a huge impact (just yet).

I totally understand but I would still rank utica above, like you said they have Hobart to deal with etc we will see whats what soon enough

[jerrynu26]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

I totally understand but I would still rank utica above, like you said they have Hobart to deal with etc we will see whats what soon enough

It makes more sense to rank Oswego after Utica, than Utica ahead of Oswego. Adrian and Eau-Claire should stay where they are.

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

Plattsburgh's 1-0 loss to then undefeated Norwich is a game that could've gone either way. They also beat Oswego (in Oswego) when they were #1. Perhaps Plattsburgh should play the Stonehill's, Franklin Pierce's and Colby's of the world to puff up the Win-Loss. There is talk of that.

Emery always touts that he always wants to put together the toughest schedule he possibly can. I don't ever see him changing that philosophy.

[admiral0417]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

Stand by on that one.

[VT bragging rights]

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[QUOTERussell Jaslow;5599015]Emery always touts that he always wants to put together the toughest schedule he possibly can. I don't ever see him changing that philosophy.[/QUOTE]

So who dropped the game between Norwich & Plattsburgh next year??

[Ozz]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

Want to start speculating on who will be ranked in each region?

SUNYAC: Oswego, Plattsburgh
ECAC-E: Norwich, Babson, (UMB????)
NESCAC: Bowdoin, Williams, Amherst
ECAC-W: Hobart, Utica, Manhattaville
MASCAC: Plymouth St.
ECAC-NE: Nichols???

NCHA: St. Norbert, Eau Claire, Superior
MCHA: Adrian, MSOE
MIAC: St. Thomas (Academy)

There has to be more, but....

If Platty is considered for Ranking, then Geneseo also has to be. They both have similar records and SOS. Genny has the head-to-head win...

[OSU2010]

If Platty is considered for Ranking, then Geneseo also has to be. They both have similar records and SOS. Genny has the head-to-head win...

I was going to say I think that Geneseo will be ranked

[admiral0417]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

I agree that Geneseo should be ranked. However, I was surprised that their OOC schedule ranks with Plattsburgh's? Here's the comparison:

Geneseo: Adrian, Hobart, Salve Regina, Franklin Pierce (X2), Nazereth (,X2), Canton and Elmira

Plattsburgh: Norwich, Amherst, Williams, Middlebury (X2), Castleton, St. Thomas, Wesleyan and Skidmore

I know which schedule I'd rather play.

[Ozz]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

I agree that Geneseo should be ranked. However, I was surprised that their OOC schedule ranks with Plattsburgh's? Here's the comparison:

Geneseo: Adrian, Hobart, Salve Regina, Franklin Pierce (X2), Nazereth (,X2), Canton and Elmira

Plattsburgh: Norwich, Amherst, Williams, Middlebury (X2), Castleton, St. Thomas, Wesleyan and Skidmore

I know which schedule I'd rather play.

Just going by the KRACH Rankings (Whateveryour opinion of Krach), Platty's schedule ranks 21st and Genny's schedule ranks 26th. NUProf...How do your SOS numbers look for Genny and Platty?

[joecct]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

I agree that Geneseo should be ranked. However, I was surprised that their OOC schedule ranks with Plattsburgh's? Here's the comparison:

Geneseo: Adrian, Hobart, Salve Regina, Franklin Pierce (X2), Nazereth (,X2), Canton and Elmira

Plattsburgh: Norwich, Amherst, Williams, Middlebury (X2), Castleton, St. Thomas, Wesleyan and Skidmore

I know which schedule I'd rather play.

drop Franklin Pierce and Canton from the calculations. Naz and Hobart bring in the ECAC-W teams as OOWP, something Platty does not have, but that's probably offset by Salve. The MCHA is a meh.

By playing Williams and Amherst, Platty brings in the MIAC in OOWP and St. Thomas in OWP, which is not so much of a good thing this year but gets Norwich on the OOWP via Skidmore / Castleton and H2H in the OWP.

[admiral0417]

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Understood. But I'd bet a roll of tape that Genny would have more than 2 losses playing Plattsburgh's OOC sked. Plattsburgh is usually an exceptionally good OOC team and they went 5-4. Why does Franklin Pierce get dropped from Genny's calculation?

[Ozz]

Re: January 14th Poll Speculations

Understood. But I'd bet a roll of tape that Genny would have more than 2 losses playing Plattsburgh's OOC sked. Plattsburgh is usually an exceptionally good OOC team and they went 5-4. Why does Franklin Pierce get dropped from Genny's calculation?

They are D-II..