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  • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

    Originally posted by jmhusker View Post
    Anyone want to start opining on where this team is going to end up? A 4 point weekend and my thoughts will turn to a bye. Zero and we fire Appert.

    In all seriousness, I think our coach is finally showing some maturation. He is much more consistent in his tone. I think he finally realizes how to set realistic expectations, and the team is responding.
    Considering the shape that Harvard is in, we have to beat them. As to Saturday, it's timw to restart the dread that other teams had when facing us on the BRF!.
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    • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

      Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
      An interesting way to describe it. To me it is just the repeating portion of 1/7, or 1/7 of a post before I reach 1,000,000/7.

      It also proves that WS was correct in post 657.
      Hey now, we did say there will be math involved. However, to tie it into RPI hockey, let's say that we had seven PP or PK on an evening, and wanted to figure out our success rate. OK, that's a stretch, I know, but a lesson in basic statistics is always good for sports. To show that what I had said was true:

      1/7 = .142857
      2/7 = .285714
      3/7 = .428571
      4/7 = .571428
      5/7 = .714285
      6/7 = .857142

      As we can plainly see, where you start in the sequence may change, but you still have the digits in the same progressive order.

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      • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        Hey now, we did say there will be math involved. However, to tie it into RPI hockey, let's say that we had seven PP or PK on an evening, and wanted to figure out our success rate. OK, that's a stretch, I know, but a lesson in basic statistics is always good for sports. To show that what I had said was true:

        1/7 = .142857
        2/7 = .285714
        3/7 = .428571
        4/7 = .571428
        5/7 = .714285
        6/7 = .857142

        As we can plainly see, where you start in the sequence may change, but you still have the digits in the same progressive order.
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        • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
          Hey now, we did say there will be math involved. However, to tie it into RPI hockey, let's say that we had seven PP or PK on an evening, and wanted to figure out our success rate. OK, that's a stretch, I know, but a lesson in basic statistics is always good for sports. To show that what I had said was true:

          1/7 = .142857
          2/7 = .285714
          3/7 = .428571
          4/7 = .571428
          5/7 = .714285
          6/7 = .857142

          As we can plainly see, where you start in the sequence may change, but you still have the digits in the same progressive order.
          I realized that, FD. There are many prime fractions, but not all, that have that property. For example, all 16 fractions from 1/17 to 16/17 use the sequence 0588235294117647 with a different starting point.
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          • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

            Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
            My life is now complete!
            Wait until "RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part LXIX: There Will Be Medicine Involved".
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            • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

              Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
              Going back a long time i still remember 2 linesmen and one ref. They did have a period of time where there was one ref, one assistant ref, and one linesman. You have to go back much further to have the one ref one linesman era. In my view, the two ref system can work but they both have to be on the same page. There is also no doubt that certain pairs work better together and do a much better job of both watching the goal line while the other backs up the play from behind the blue line.
              Sorry for being a little late with this post, but since we're discussing ancient history, maybe it doesn't matter.

              My recollection is that, way back in my student days of the '60's, there were only two officials, each of whom served in the dual capacity of both referee and linesman.

              There has been much discussion of referees who didn't call games the way we might have liked to see them, but for me, the ref who takes the cake will always be Giles Threadgold, who presided over a farce of a game between RPI and Colgate in 1968.

              Oddly, I have absolutely no recollection of who the other official - who should probably have shared 50% of the blame - was on that occasion.

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              • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                I realized that, FD. There are many prime fractions, but not all, that have that property. For example, all 16 fractions from 1/17 to 16/17 use the sequence 0588235294117647 with a different starting point.
                This is true. 3 and 11 don't, 2 and 5 terminate, but I think the higher you go, the more often you see it. Of course, we'd only have to worry about that if Kotyra and Murphy do another game after Schafer was suspended.

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                • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                  Interestingly enough, the pattern still holds if you divide by 14. However, the first digit will be out of sequence if the dividend is an odd number.

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                  • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    This is true. 3 and 11 don't, 2 and 5 terminate, but I think the higher you go, the more often you see it. Of course, we'd only have to worry about that if Kotyra and Murphy do another game after Schafer was suspended.
                    BTW, in addition to the games mentioned at WaP, Kotyra also did the Cornell game from two years ago where he needed a police escort out of the building with Feola trailing behind after that moronic call against Brutlag (that, come to think of it, was awfully similar to the Bailen call), considering that the student section was practically about to riot (or did riot, if you consider the amount of trash thrown at them as they left the ice).

                    He was also, as you mention, called in to be Fat Mike's personal referee in that obnoxious Game #2 at Lynah back in York's freshman year, the game where RPI had 18 billion penalties called against them thanks to FM's whininess.
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                    • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                      Originally posted by Waite21 View Post
                      Sorry for being a little late with this post, but since we're discussing ancient history, maybe it doesn't matter.

                      My recollection is that, way back in my student days of the '60's, there were only two officials, each of whom served in the dual capacity of both referee and linesman.

                      There has been much discussion of referees who didn't call games the way we might have liked to see them, but for me, the ref who takes the cake will always be Giles Threadgold, who presided over a farce of a game between RPI and Colgate in 1968.

                      Oddly, I have absolutely no recollection of who the other official - who should probably have shared 50% of the blame - was on that occasion.
                      Was Threadgold the one who called the plethora of penalties in an RPI/Colgate game so that there were not enough non-penalized players to finish the game?
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                      • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                        Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
                        BTW, in addition to the games mentioned at WaP, Kotyra also did the Cornell game from two years ago where he needed a police escort out of the building with Feola trailing behind after that moronic call against Brutlag (that, come to think of it, was awfully similar to the Bailen call), considering that the student section was practically about to riot (or did riot, if you consider the amount of trash thrown at them as they left the ice).

                        He was also, as you mention, called in to be Fat Mike's personal referee in that obnoxious Game #2 at Lynah back in York's freshman year, the game where RPI had 18 billion penalties called against them thanks to FM's whininess.
                        That second paragraph was indeed my game of reference. Cornell had 9 penalties in that game (one of which was a double minor but as part of a coincidental), RPI had 19, NONE were double (one matching, two 2-minute 5x3 [one which included a bench minor], and one major at the end as an added digitus medius).

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                        • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                          Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                          And Saturday is Groundhog Day.
                          Again?

                          This keeps happening, over and over......
                          "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                          "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

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                          • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                            Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
                            BTW, in addition to the games mentioned at WaP, Kotyra also did the Cornell game from two years ago where he needed a police escort out of the building with Feola trailing behind after that moronic call against Brutlag (that, come to think of it, was awfully similar to the Bailen call), considering that the student section was practically about to riot (or did riot, if you consider the amount of trash thrown at them as they left the ice).

                            He was also, as you mention, called in to be Fat Mike's personal referee in that obnoxious Game #2 at Lynah back in York's freshman year, the game where RPI had 18 billion penalties called against them thanks to FM's whininess.
                            Thanks RC-I did not list all the specific games that Kotyra has been involved with that have led to my listing him as one of the top 3 horrible refs of all time but that Cornell ECAC playoff game was one of my reasons he is on the list. That game elevated him and his cohort in crime, Murphy, well up the standings. I need to look back at that box score and count how many times and for how many minutes they put us down 2 men at the same time.
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                            • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                              Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                              Thanks RC-I did not list all the specific games that Kotyra has been involved with that have led to my listing him as one of the top 3 horrible refs of all time but that Cornell ECAC playoff game was one of my reasons he is on the list. That game elevated him and his cohort in crime, Murphy, well up the standings. I need to look back at that box score and count how many times and for how many minutes they put us down 2 men at the same time.
                              He was also pretty awful at the Clarkson game in 09-10 (I was coming home from a business trip, decided to hop off the clock and check out the game). I seem to remember that even after we won, Section 33 was a bit outraged.

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                              • Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part III: There Will Be Math Involved

                                Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                                Thanks RC-I did not list all the specific games that Kotyra has been involved with that have led to my listing him as one of the top 3 horrible refs of all time but that Cornell ECAC playoff game was one of my reasons he is on the list. That game elevated him and his cohort in crime, Murphy, well up the standings. I need to look back at that box score and count how many times and for how many minutes they put us down 2 men at the same time.
                                Here, I'll make it easy: http://www.collegehockeystats.net/08...s/mcorren1.m14

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