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rvd5star69
02-03-2013, 02:51 PM
Best weekend in a long time. Kasdorf should of started earlier in season. Refs were solid all weekend # let them play 5-5

Ralph Baer
02-03-2013, 02:55 PM
Best weekend in a long time. Kasdorf should of started earlier in season. Refs were solid all weekend # let them play 5-5

I agree with the ref statement. They basically were good.

As to Kasdorf starting earlier, maybe a few games earlier, but I can't fault SA in not putting him up to the wolves when the team was being experemnted with up and down the lineup. Goalies' confidence can be shaken easily, and SA probably knows that first hand.

AspyDad
02-03-2013, 03:11 PM
Best weekend in a long time. Kasdorf should of started earlier in season. Refs were solid all weekend # let them play 5-5

I thought Allen was good last night and Fri. Dumas not so much.

AspyDad
02-03-2013, 03:14 PM
Mark Miller is awesome. What a competitor.

DrDemento
02-03-2013, 03:25 PM
I agree with the ref statement. They basically were good.

As to Kasdorf starting earlier, maybe a few games earlier, but I can't fault SA in not putting him up to the wolves when the team was being experemnted with up and down the lineup. Goalies' confidence can be shaken easily, and SA probably knows that first hand.

Spot on RB-easy for some to say that Kasdorf should have started sooner. But that is with retrospective knowledge. We were not a good team early this year. We have had seasons like that before. It took a little time for things to gel. This team is led by freshmen and sophomores and throwing Kaz out there before these guys got things together would not have been a smart move. All credit to SA. He knew this would be a long season and there would be a time to introduce the kid to NCAA Division I hockey goaltending. I do not know that anything would have made much difference in our record earlier this season.(other than better special teams play) Besides I am of the opinion that Bryce and Diebold are both very good keepers and most teams would love to have either one of them.

Ralph Baer
02-03-2013, 03:25 PM
Mark Miller is awesome. What a competitor.

Yes. I can't get over all of the emails I exchanged with various people trying to figure out last year what his strengths were.

DrDemento
02-03-2013, 03:26 PM
I thought Allen was good last night and Fri. Dumas not so much.
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Dumas was much worse in Princeton. But he had the added attraction of working with Kotyra that afternoon. What one called wrong the other made up for by making the next bad call. I hope they are on vacation next weekend and far away from the North Country.

ServinisScores
02-03-2013, 03:26 PM
Not a fight. It was a check to the head - I can't recall if it was a shoulder or an elbow. Broke JJ's jaw and probably was one of the reasons he ended up getting traded out of Boston. Harry Sinden seemed to think everyone needed to play like Cam Neely. So he traded Joey for a chain smoking defenseman with a hard shot who was tough (and out of the league a year later).

jmhusker's recollection is spot on - no fight, a clean check with the shoulder and Joey led with his face. Juneau was way too intelligent and well spoken for the Bruins regime at that time. Insult was Iafrate was often injured too,and dragged the B's down further into the morass.

Anyways, great weekend from the boys. Let's hope they keep it going, especially the team defense. lgr!

Havasu M
02-03-2013, 03:31 PM
Booked a flight a month ago to get back for the slu clarkson senior nite games and maybe a home ice playoff series. Thought they would start a streak like this. Any chance for another tailgate party or Knotty Pine?? Impressed with Miller Bubela and Zalewski. Glad to see Higgs back hustling all game. Would J D'a and Pirri make this team as seniors?? just kidding. One game at a time.

ServinisScores
02-03-2013, 03:39 PM
Booked a flight a month ago to get back for the slu clarkson senior nite games and maybe a home ice playoff series. Thought they would start a streak like this. Any chance for another tailgate party or Knotty Pine?? Impressed with Miller Bubela and Zalewski. Glad to see Higgs back hustling all game. Would J D'a and Pirri make this team as seniors?? just kidding.

I don't care how you slice it, neither of those guys look too smart leaving when they did. Especially D'Amigo, he's cost himself a lot of $$$.

RKarger
02-03-2013, 04:21 PM
Which hasn't been the case all that often since RKarger has been at RPI. :(

Unfortunately. I certainly hope it's the case much more often before I graduate. :D

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2013, 04:32 PM
That used to be the norm when a game was a fait accompli in the last two minutes.

Probably why it happened last night. I remember also doing it, but of course we didn't do it very often because, when I was playing iwth the band, we didn't win very often. :mad:

Havasu M
02-03-2013, 04:53 PM
I don't care how you slice it, neither of those guys look too smart leaving when they did. Especially D'Amigo, he's cost himself a lot of $$$.
no doubt agree completely

DrDemento
02-03-2013, 05:21 PM
I don't care how you slice it, neither of those guys look too smart leaving when they did. Especially D'Amigo, he's cost himself a lot of $$$.

Since I was not privy to the money involved i really have no clue-but I don't think either would have suffered by staying at RPI for at least one more year. if nothing else to be that much closer to a degree in case things just never do work out in hockey. Making it at the NHL level is just so incredibly difficult with increasing competition every year from NCAA boys, Canadian Juniors, and of course the eastern Europeans. Add to that the financial situation causing many NHL level players to hang on and play a few extra years. Of course i wish the two boys the best but as of now it certainly looks like their decisions were marginal at best.

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2013, 06:15 PM
Best weekend in a long time. Kasdorf should of started earlier in season. Refs were solid all weekend # let them play 5-5

I'm good with this if it truly is a clean game. From what I could tell, it truly was a clean game, and any of the calls made were blatantly obvious. Maybe a miss here and there, but for the most part decent. Allen did a very good job with his control of the game.

DrDemento
02-03-2013, 06:20 PM
I'm good with this if it truly is a clean game. From what I could tell, it truly was a clean game, and any of the calls made were blatantly obvious. Maybe a miss here and there, but for the most part decent. Allen did a very good job with his control of the game.

I thought we might have gotten called one or two more times. Luke put a guy into the boards and the sound carried-sometimes a poor ref will just hear somethng loud and assume it was a penalty.;)

FlagDUDE08
02-03-2013, 06:38 PM
I thought we might have gotten called one or two more times. Luke put a guy into the boards and the sound carried-sometimes a poor ref will just hear somethng loud and assume it was a penalty.;)

Yes, but a good ref will be able to understand a play when he or she sees it. I think the only mess-up I saw (or at least obvious) was when one linesman waved off icing and the other blew it down, but that happens, they talked it over, and sent the puck to the centre. I'm not going to complain too much about that.

DrDemento
02-03-2013, 06:50 PM
Yes, but a good ref will be able to understand a play when he or she sees it. I think the only mess-up I saw (or at least obvious) was when one linesman waved off icing and the other blew it down, but that happens, they talked it over, and sent the puck to the centre. I'm not going to complain too much about that.

This entire weekend was the way I like to see games called-I did not even notice the officials much. I doubt we will see that next weekend. There was just great flow up and back in these 2 games and stretches without whistles for long periods.

turk181
02-03-2013, 07:10 PM
in keeping with the math....here are the team stats from college hockey inc (it's a new feature from them) http://collegehockeyinc.com/stats/filters.php?target=REN&conf=on&nonconf=on&playoff=on&ncaa=on&site=all&wins=on&losses=on&ties=on&otgames=all&start=1&end=121&sun=on&mon=on&tue=on&wed=on&thu=on&fri=on&sat=on&fr=on&so=on&jr=on&sr=on&drafted=on&eligible=on&free=on&stats=teamscoring&sort=spct

jmhusker
02-03-2013, 07:55 PM
Thanks JM-that was it-refreshed my aging memory completely. The trade for Iafrate may go down as Boston's worst ever. Sinden never liked Joey ever since the original signing-I remember when JJ was leading Team Canada in the Olympic scoring (not goals but total points) on a line with Lindros before coming to Boston. he was holding out for a bit more money from Sinden and threatening to play in Sweden. Sinden had said something to the effect that he should go play and yodel there. All Joey did was come in and set a record for assists for right wingers and finish second in the Rookie of the Year award to Selanne(who really was a more seasoned veteran having played in Europe). Iafrate was big, tough, fast and had a 100+ mph slap shot. But his knees were held together with tin foil and duct tape. It was Lipuma who broke his jaw in a fight.

Close Doc. It was Switzerland and the holdout wasn't about the amount of money but whether the contract would be one way or two way. Joey didn't want to go to the AHL and get paid less. And of course he played left wing as a rookie (not right). Let's not forget how great Selanne is. Still playing, scoring and flying down the ice in his forties. What a freak he is!