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Ralph Baer
01-20-2013, 10:08 PM
I was wondering that myself... those were Ken's words, not mine. I remember the Deventhal era, the days of 40% pride,and Ben Barr's initial claim to fame in Schenectady. I also remember when Schenectady's daily was widely known as 'the good grey Gazette.' Then Ken has a short memory, although he may remember the Phillies from 1950 is if they were yesterday. :D ;)

AspyDad
01-21-2013, 08:06 AM
Well played SaHD.

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 08:17 AM
I've been trying to figure out our RatingsPI, and am only able to get to .4902. I do know that Notre Dame and Michigan Tech do not yet factor into our formula, and that CCT/SLU are still opponents of opponents because we haven't played them yet. Is anyone else able to get to .4998? It doesn't look like the Sacred Heart game affected our RatingsPI, in fact taking it out may have made it worse...

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 08:56 AM
I've been trying to figure out our RatingsPI, and am only able to get to .4902. I do know that Notre Dame and Michigan Tech do not yet factor into our formula, and that CCT/SLU are still opponents of opponents because we haven't played them yet. Is anyone else able to get to .4998? It doesn't look like the Sacred Heart game affected our RatingsPI, in fact taking it out may have made it worse... I have never written a program to figure this out myself, but can't teams figure in as both opponents and opponents of opponents? E.g., Union is both figured in (and currently weighted double) as an opponent, and Union also counts as an opponent's opponent via Cornell, Colgate, QU (four times since we played QU twice and QU played Union twice), etc., etc.

Senna
01-21-2013, 08:57 AM
Nah-we will probably head out to a different hockey game. Haven't seen anything advertised as far as a movie i want to see.:( Will take the wife-and would love to take a mistres but Jenny would perform some exotic surgery on me and hang them from a tree.:eek: Not to mention that i would have to have the cats tasting my food for a long time.;)

Laughed out loud on this. Classic.

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 09:35 AM
I have never written a program to figure this out myself, but can't teams figure in as both opponents and opponents of opponents? E.g., Union is both figured in (and currently weighted double) as an opponent, and Union also counts as an opponent's opponent via Cornell, Colgate, QU (four times since we played QU twice and QU played Union twice), etc., etc.

Taking a look... http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/help/rpi.htm#calculate

That might explain some things. I need to take out and put in a few games in my consideration.

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 10:04 AM
Taking a look... http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/help/rpi.htm#calculate

That might explain some things. I need to take out and put in a few games in my consideration.

Is a bonus for wins against quality OOC opponents still included?

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 10:09 AM
According to Ed Weaver, it's déjà vu all over again: http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2013/01/21/sports/doc50fcc7fc2aa46583120689.txt?viewmode=fullstory

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 10:10 AM
Is a bonus for wins against quality OOC opponents still included?

It is not. However, what is considered is that game are removed if you won but it still hurts your RatingsPI.

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 11:11 AM
It is not. However, what is considered is that game are removed if you won but it still hurts your RatingsPI.

Yes, I realize that is included.

hrbrendan
01-21-2013, 11:50 AM
I respectfully disagree. You rightly point out that special teams and especially PP is very important but more so is goaltending and I do not see too many teams with the netminder we have. I do see your wait and see attitude but this team has a run in it...call it my gut.

Him being .001 from the #1 spot in save % in the NCAA (if he had enough minutes to qualify) seems to back up your gut feeling.

jericho
01-21-2013, 11:59 AM
I have never written a program to figure this out myself, but can't teams figure in as both opponents and opponents of opponents? E.g., Union is both figured in (and currently weighted double) as an opponent, and Union also counts as an opponent's opponent via Cornell, Colgate, QU (four times since we played QU twice and QU played Union twice), etc., etc.


Just have to say that the title of this thread fits perfectly.

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 12:06 PM
Looking at stats, Mark McGowan has 3 GWGs. Top in the ECAC is 4, by Russell Goodman (QPac) and Eric Robinson (Dartmouth).

DrDemento
01-21-2013, 12:13 PM
Looking at stats, Mark McGowan has 3 GWGs. Top in the ECAC is 4, by Russell Goodman (QPac) and Eric Robinson (Dartmouth).

McGowan has shown as much improvement as anyone on this team. I had high hopes for him well before he came to Troy-but he is just buzzing right now and has to be a nightmare for other teams to try and check off the puck. His ability to maintain control of the puck in corners while cycling is helping the entire flow in the offensive zone for us.

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 12:27 PM
Just have to say that the title of this thread fits perfectly.

FD08 started this particular discussion. :p

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 12:30 PM
McGowan has shown as much improvement as anyone on this team. I had high hopes for him well before he came to Troy-but he is just buzzing right now and has to be a nightmare for other teams to try and check off the puck. His ability to maintain control of the puck in corners while cycling is helping the entire flow in the offensive zone for us. I agree that McGowan has shown a lot of improvement recently, and i didn't have nearly as high an opinion of him as you did originally. I hope that he can keep it up. (I won't choose him in the PtC -- that should help. :D )

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 12:34 PM
FD08 started this particular discussion. :p

Perhaps I should state RPI's record in a matter that jericho understands: :D:D^:D:D:D - :mad::mad::mad:^:mad::mad:+:mad: - :o:o:o:o:o

FlagDUDE08
01-21-2013, 12:36 PM
I agree that McGowan has shown a lot of improvement recently, and i didn't have nearly as high an opinion of him as you did originally. I hope that he can keep it up. (I won't choose him in the PtC -- that should help. :D )

In speaking of recently, as much as stock in McGowan is going up, stock in Laliberté seems to be going down. Are teams just putting the best D players on him (along with Bubela and Zalewski)? I may have to look more closely at what happened last week with those three on the ice...

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 12:48 PM
Perhaps I should state RPI's record in a matter that jericho understands: :D:D^:D:D:D - :mad::mad::mad:^:mad::mad:+:mad: - :o:o:o:o:o

You need to indicate that "-" is not a minus sign. :p

Ralph Baer
01-21-2013, 12:51 PM
In speaking of recently, as much as stock in McGowan is going up, stock in Laliberté seems to be going down. Are teams just putting the best D players on him (along with Bubela and Zalewski)? I may have to look more closely at what happened last week with those three on the ice... I wondered that too, or if he just doesn't mesh well with Bubela and Zalewski. If he ties up the other team's checking line, letting other lines score, that's fine too.