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fishcore12
01-19-2013, 09:44 PM
4 point weekend is a good start, as in everything in life, gotta get better each day. Gotta make monday-thursday as important as friday and saturday night. Enjoy the victory tonight, get back to work monday and get ready for Union at the TUC.

turk181
01-19-2013, 10:00 PM
I just read on the rpiathletics site that this was the first time RPI has beaten both Colgate & Cornell at home since Feb. 26 1999! http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2013/1/19/MHOCK_0119133753.aspx?path=hockey

Ralph Baer
01-20-2013, 02:42 AM
RPI's RPI is .4998. I wonder if games next Friday can make us a TUC at the TUC on Saturday. :rolleyes:

Ralph Baer
01-20-2013, 03:22 AM
Ed Weaver's article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2013/01/20/sports/doc50fb757d6fbe2834065868.txt?viewmode=fullstory

FlagDUDE08
01-20-2013, 06:06 AM
I just read on the rpiathletics site that this was the first time RPI has beaten both Colgate & Cornell at home since Feb. 26 1999! http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2013/1/19/MHOCK_0119133753.aspx?path=hockey

Well, the last time we beat Cornell at home was 2006 (obviously that was the kick mark game for Colgate), and I can't remember the last time we beat Colgate at home...

FlagDUDE08
01-20-2013, 06:07 AM
RPI's RPI is .4998. I wonder if games next Friday can make us a TUC at the TUC on Saturday. :rolleyes:

SO dang close...

I believe that, given Union's RatingsPI, a tie will give it to us. Obviously we want to shoot for the win, though.

Ralph Baer
01-20-2013, 06:11 AM
SO dang close...

I believe that, given Union's RatingsPI, a tie will give it to us. Obviously we want to shoot for the win, though.

I guess as often is the case I wasn't clear. :)

The Union game is Saturday. My question is if other games could get us there before that game. As you wrote, we are quite close to an RPI of 0.5000.

FlagDUDE08
01-20-2013, 06:13 AM
I guess as often is the case I wasn't clear. :)

The Union game is Saturday. My question is if other games could get us there before that game. As you wrote, we are quite close to an RPI of 0.5000.

Heck, even UCONN/QPac could give it to us, depending on how that goes (especially because of that little tie we got on them).

As for clarity, you were perfectly clear. I just don't like to associate other schools directly with us, hence why I use RatingsPI. ;)

Ralph Baer
01-20-2013, 06:37 AM
Heck, even UCONN/QPac could give it to us, depending on how that goes (especially because of that little tie we got on them).

As for clarity, you were perfectly clear. I just don't like to associate other schools directly with us, hence why I use RatingsPI. ;)


I don't have a program to play around with the RatingsPI, but I would not think that QPac would gain enough from a victory over UConn to lift us to 0.5000. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if results from some of the OOC teams we played could do it alone.

FlagDUDE08
01-20-2013, 06:50 AM
I don't have a program to play around with the RatingsPI, but I would not think that QPac would gain enough from a victory over UConn to lift us to 0.5000. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if results from some of the OOC teams we played could do it alone.

What if Connecticut winning, or a tie helped? Mercyhurst earned a split, and Sacred Heart has only played one game. They lost to MSU-M and tied Union. LOTS of common opponents. Granted the common opponents doesn't help in RatingsPI (onyl the PWR), but UCONN is still an opponent of opponent, and that's 54% of your RatingsPI as opposed to 21% for straight opponents.

FlagDUDE08
01-20-2013, 07:02 AM
And as a commercial break to the math, the press conference from last night:

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fishcore12
01-20-2013, 08:09 AM
"Contract Extension"- AspyDad about 2 minutes after the game ended last night. :)

NBinks
01-20-2013, 11:39 AM
Our fans need to SERIOUSLY learn how not to jump the gun on those taunts. Thirty to forty seconds is MORE than enough to score two goals, and I thought after they started the "Cornell Sucks" chant that we would blow it and go to OT.

Typical LXA, none of them know jack about hockey and they've even taunted our own players at times this season.
Source: I sit directly behind them

DrDemento
01-20-2013, 12:09 PM
I respectfully disagree. You rightly point out that special teams and especially PP is very important but more so is goaltending and I do not see too many teams with the netminder we have. I do see your wait and see attitude but this team has a run in it...call it my gut.

Aspy-I love Kasdorf. But 8 games does not make him the league star just yet. I think he will turn out to be superb-perhaps our best ever. But Iles did not look shabby last night and often looks spectacular. QU has not given up many goals to anyone and there are others goalies playing well in this league. We won both games this weekend with very good team effort. it was everyone and everything. This was the most encouraging set of games in a long time. But we will have to find ways to score more. The last 4 games-admittedly one of our best streaks in a while-we have scored 8 goals(and given up 9). Perhaps I am just hanging onto a bit of my reservatons but I need a bit more success before i start jumping for joy. I do agree 100% though-this team could get on a run and be very tough to beat-which is why I detest this next weekend break from our league schedule.

DrDemento
01-20-2013, 12:16 PM
Doc, you know that we are not going to blow any teams out. And we may get out shot in most of our games. But the defense is keeping most of the shots to the perimeter and Kasdorf looks like the real deal.
Our break out is solid and our passing is much improved. If we can get Bailen to stop passing into the slot and Lee to stop taking offensive zone penalties, we will win a lot of games.
I make no prediction on where we will finish, but with 10 league games left, I see us winning more than half of those, and that should keep us in the middle of the pack by the playoffs.
If we continue to improve going into the playoffs, I think we will have as good a shot as anyone of winning the tournament.
Of course, we have to stay healthy and we have to keep improving. Any backslide and who knows how low we can go.
Think happy thoughts, and lets go red!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely all true-but there are going to be nights with bad bounces, bad calls, guys falling down at crucial times, etc-and we will need to find some extra offense to overcome any lapses. I do think we have it-I really am beginning to like this line up-no one line doing it all-every line contributing. The depth at the forward position is finally starting to show. Defense for the most part moving the puck up ice and keeping it in once we get there. But i see the same things you do-Nick B is an incredible offense talent that needs to control some of his passes and some of his moves. Too many blatant give aways. We have to really be careful with those cross ice passes around the blue lines. But as you say we have 10 games left-6 at home and no Union (that counts) no QU and we get Yale and Dartmouth at home instead of away. I would hope we can win at least 6 of these and perhaps more which could put us in a very decent place in the standings for the first round. I do not evem think a bye is out of the question-but I would not expect it after the hole we dug for ourselves early in the standings.

fishcore12
01-20-2013, 12:17 PM
Our fans need to SERIOUSLY learn how not to jump the gun on those taunts. Thirty to forty seconds is MORE than enough to score two goals, and I thought after they started the "Cornell Sucks" chant that we would blow it and go to OT.

Our fans need to learn how to stay for the entire game as well. That Troy traffic can be killer on friday and saturday nights.

DrDemento
01-20-2013, 12:22 PM
I just read on the rpiathletics site that this was the first time RPI has beaten both Colgate & Cornell at home since Feb. 26 1999! http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2013/1/19/MHOCK_0119133753.aspx?path=hockey

That is correct. the next visit for Cornell and Colgate into Troy was the following November. I remember the Colgate game well since my favorite Ref did the game-Mike Noeth-and honored us with calling 42 minutes of penalties on us to insure a loss after we had beaten Cornell the night before.:eek:

DrDemento
01-20-2013, 12:30 PM
And as a commercial break to the math, the press conference from last night:

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What should be really scary for the other ECAC teams-Kasdorf does not even remotely SOUND like a freshman. He exudes confidence. We have already seen that he has that on the ice-but he carries himself and expresses himself very well. Saying that-I would rest him this coming weekend. We have two other very capable goaltenders who can split the game if need be so that we have JK in the net for the following week's league games.

RPI fan 4 life
01-20-2013, 01:12 PM
What should be really scary for the other ECAC teams-Kasdorf does not even remotely SOUND like a freshman. He exudes confidence. We have already seen that he has that on the ice-but he carries himself and expresses himself very well. Saying that-I would rest him this coming weekend. We have two other very capable goaltenders who can split the game if need be so that we have JK in the net for the following week's league games.

Agree 1000%. I don't even want to see Kasdorf dressed for the game in case SA gets the temptation to play him even in relief. It would be a boost to the RPI ego to beat Union on Saturday, even if it is a non-league game. Seven straight losses to your cross town rivals can get a bit frustrating.

fishcore12
01-20-2013, 01:27 PM
Agree 1000%. I don't even want to see Kasdorf dressed for the game in case SA gets the temptation to play him even in relief. It would be a boost to the RPI ego to beat Union on Saturday, even if it is a non-league game. Seven straight losses to your cross town rivals can get a bit frustrating.

And our best way to beat our cross town "rivals" is to not dress the goaltender with the hot hand right now? Makes total sense, hey while we are at it lets not dress JL, Haggerty, McGowan, Curadi and Bailen too. Give everyone who hasnt been playing much some playing time. Im sorry but you put the players out that give you the best chance to win the game each and every night.