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PrezdeJohnson09
01-07-2013, 01:45 PM
Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week
1 Norwich (15) 11- 1-0 292 1
2 St. Norbert ( 3) 12- 2-1 250 5
3 Hobart ( 1) 11- 1-2 235 4
4 Bowdoin ( 1) 11- 0-1 227 6
5 Oswego 12- 3-0 216 2
6 Wisconsin-Eau Claire 12- 3-1 214 3
7 Adrian 11- 1-0 189 7
8 Utica 11- 2-0 188 8
9 Amherst 8- 4-1 127 10
10 Plattsburgh 9- 5-1 105 9
11 Wisconsin-Superior 10- 4-1 91 11
12 Manhattanville 9- 4-1 60 12
13 Williams 7- 2-1 42 NR
14 Milwaukee School of Engineering 9- 4-1 41 13
15 Wisconsin-Stevens Point 10- 6-1 38 NR


Discuss....

My thoughts-

Utica behind Oswego is an absolute embarassment in my opinion. How can anyone justify putting a team that just beat another head to head 6-0 as well as beat them earlier in the season on the other team's home ice behind them? Oh yeah, Utica has a bigger winning percentage too.

Other than that, no real qualms. I expected Norwich to stay No. 1 and lose some first place votes which happened but Utica staying 8th absolutely mystifies me.

Pioneers#1
01-07-2013, 01:54 PM
Hahaha this poll is SUCH a ****ing joke. Utica once again getting screwed and shown no respect. How many Top 10 teams do we have to beat to be shown respect? Any other team would be ranked above Oswego already.

Russell Jaslow
01-07-2013, 01:55 PM
Hahaha this poll is SUCH a ****ing joke. Utica once again getting screwed and shown no respect. How many Top 10 teams do we have to beat to be shown respect? Any other team would be ranked above Oswego already.

POP! There's the first Utica fans head exploding.

Stay down. More to come...

jerrynu26
01-07-2013, 02:00 PM
POP! There's the first Utica fans head exploding.

Stay down. More to come...

Got my rain slicker on already to keep the clothes clean..:D

Am I surprised they didn't move up more? Some. But would they be any happier to be ahead of Oswego if Oswego was 8th and they were 7th? I very much doubt that.

sshablak
01-07-2013, 02:00 PM
Lol

CardsFan91
01-07-2013, 02:04 PM
The poll means nothing, but Plattsburgh State certainly isn't playing like a top-10 team right now.

UCAlum32
01-07-2013, 02:12 PM
Compare and Contrast

http://www.d3hockey.com/rankings/men/2012-13/jan-7

1 Norwich (11) 11-1 286 1
2 St. Norbert (4) 12-2-1 262 3
3 Hobart (2) 11-1-2 248 4
4 Bowdoin (3) 11-0-1 247 7
5 Utica 11-2 230 8
6 Oswego State 12-3 186 2
7 Adrian 11-1 184 6
8 UW-Eau Claire 12-3-1 183 5
9 UW-Superior 10-4-1 102 10
10 Amherst 8-4-1 99 12
11 Plattsburgh State 9-5-1 82 9
12 Williams 7-2-1 67 15
13 Mass-Boston 9-2-1 55 NR
14 Manhattanville 9-4-1 48 14
15 UW-Stevens Point 10-6-1 29 NR

Pioneers#1
01-07-2013, 02:23 PM
POP! There's the first Utica fans head exploding.

Stay down. More to come...

Haha Oh no my friend, I am seriously laughing at this point, trust me there. It's such a joke how biased it is, now I truly see what you all meant by it being meaningless. :p

I just laughed when I saw the poll. Ehh, I figure we just keep winning and we can't go wrong ;)

pete99race
01-07-2013, 02:27 PM
Haha Oh no my friend, I am seriously laughing at this point, trust me there. It's such a joke how biased it is, now I truly see what you all meant by it being meaningless. :p

I just laughed when I saw the poll. Ehh, I figure we just keep winning and we can't go wrong ;)
Utica got some respect in the "other" poll...moved up to #5.

fisheralum91
01-07-2013, 02:28 PM
I have said numerous times that polls mean so little, but this has taken a really odd turn.
Anybody can now see the joke that this poll is.

jerrynu26
01-07-2013, 02:34 PM
Utica got some respect in the "other" poll...moved up to #5.

Hard as it is for me to say this ;) they should NOT be ahead of Adrian.


Haha Oh no my friend, I am seriously laughing at this point, trust me there. It's such a joke how biased it is, now I truly see what you all meant by it being meaningless. :p

I just laughed when I saw the poll. Ehh, I figure we just keep winning and we can't go wrong ;)

I think you said that before........:rolleyes:

Pioneers#1
01-07-2013, 02:42 PM
Hard as it is for me to say this ;) they should NOT be ahead of Adrian.



I think you said that before........:rolleyes:

Yup, and I'm saying it again. Because it needs to be said again.

UCBadger
01-07-2013, 02:43 PM
Not a whole lot of points between 5 and 8. In Fact, the range between 8 and 9 is larger than the range between 3 and 8.

admiral0417
01-07-2013, 02:44 PM
Do you UC fans honestly think that the 20 individuals who vote in this poll get on a conference call and sometime during the call say "OK, how can we screw Utica?" ??? It's like you rationalize that every time a team wins one game against a team ahead of them, they should vault past them. If that were the case, there would be zero continuity and everyone would be saving their best for their last game against a ranked team !!! Teams rarely move up more than 2 spots in the poll regardless of who they beat and by what score. That's just the facts.

Personally, I had never paid UC much attention and viewed them as an "also-ran" in the ECAC West. So now you have yourselves what looks like a pretty good team. But probably nowhere near as good as some of you think.

Ed Trefzger
01-07-2013, 02:50 PM
I don't have any involvement with the D-III poll any longer, but from my past experience, the under appreciation of Utica can likely be pointed squarely at western poll voters, who don't bother to educate themselves on eastern hockey.

Pioneers#1
01-07-2013, 02:53 PM
Do you UC fans honestly think that the 20 individuals who vote in this poll get on a conference call and sometime during the call say "OK, how can we screw Utica?" ??? It's like you rationalize that every time a team wins one game against a team ahead of them, they should vault past them. If that were the case, there would be zero continuity and everyone would be saving their best for their last game against a ranked team !!! Teams rarely move up more than 2 spots in the poll regardless of who they beat and by what score. That's just the facts.

Personally, I had never paid UC much attention and viewed them as an "also-ran" in the ECAC West. So now you have yourselves what looks like a pretty good team. But probably nowhere near as good as some of you think.

So then how would you know what you preach is true? You just said you never paid much attention to Utica... How do you know how good or not they are?

;and yes, I do in fact believe they have a biased against our team in more than one way.

You try beating the #2 team twice and by a hefty margin and then go nowhere in the polls. It sucks. What are we suppose to think. And don't even go back to that **** about going no where in the polls because you beat a higher ranked teams and stuff. You know for **** sure if Oswego would have beaten Norwich, their fans would want someone's head for not being vaulted above the Cadet's in the next week's polls.

PSUChamps2001
01-07-2013, 02:54 PM
Utica is the new "This is our year....." team ....the question is how many years before it happens.....

admiral0417
01-07-2013, 03:03 PM
The Cardinals beat Oswego before UC did. They were #1 and undefeated and undeniably the best team in the land. You didn't hear our fans screaming that we should be ranked ahead of them. Like I said, I don't want to take anything away from your 6-0 win, but in some strange way, your first win against them might have been more impressive. I think they were playing very well at that time. Now, not so much.
If it's true that the western voters don't bother to educate themselves, then that's just a shame and they should be removed ASAP. But I don't believe there is a bias against Utica. I've never heard any bad reports on the coach or administration.

jerrynu26
01-07-2013, 03:09 PM
So then how would you know what you preach is true? You just said you never paid much attention to Utica... How do you know how good or not they are?

;and yes, I do in fact believe they have a biased against our team in more than one way.

You try beating the #2 team twice and by a hefty margin and then go nowhere in the polls. It sucks. What are we suppose to think. And don't even go back to that **** about going no where in the polls because you beat a higher ranked teams and stuff. You know for **** sure if Oswego would have beaten Norwich, their fans would want someone's head for not being vaulted above the Cadet's in the next week's polls.


Haha Oh no my friend, I am seriously laughing at this point, trust me there. It's such a joke how biased it is, now I truly see what you all meant by it being meaningless. :p


You sure are upset about a meaningless poll............:rolleyes:

pete99race
01-07-2013, 03:14 PM
I don't have any involvement with the D-III poll any longer, but from my past experience, the under appreciation of Utica can likely be pointed squarely at western poll voters, who don't bother to educate themselves on eastern hockey.
Who are the western poll voters this season?